24 - Day 8 [IT IS FINISHED]

Big Dookie

Breaking News

The Eighth Season of 24 will be its last, as the show has been cancelled. However, it is now heading to the big screen!

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Who's coming back to television for another round of ethical dilemmas and killing terrorists?

JACK BAUER, THAT'S WHO.


So, Season 8 is here. The premiere is Sunday, January 17th on FOX. Notable changes include:

• Jack is a Grandpa now
• CTU is back and better than ever
• Takes place in New York
• STARBUCK

Some things that aren't likely to change:

• Terrorists will be killed
• Dudes will get tortured
• CTU will have a mole
• TELL ME WHERE THE BOMB IS THERE'S NO TIME

And here is the obligatory trailer to pique your interest:

[URL=""]Season 8 Promo[/URL]

There's a pretty good chance that this will be the final season of 24, with the saga wrapping up in a feature-length movie at some point in the near future. Let's all hope they go out with a bang.

As far as spoilers go, I used to be really anal about using spoiler tags, but I've come around to agree with the people who think they're more trouble than they're worth. Bottom line, if people are in here reading this thread and you haven't watched the most recent episode, don't expect everything to be wrapped in spoiler tags. My only request is that, if you have any information beyond pure speculation for future episodes, please put them in spoiler tags and label them as such. Otherwise, don't worry about using them.


Original Season 7 OP:

Spoiler:

[URL=""]24 Game from Japan[/URL]

[IMG]He's so dreamy...


What is 24? And what is this "Redemption" thing?

Stolen from Wikipedia:

24 is an American action-drama television show. Broadcast by Fox in the United States and syndicated worldwide, the show first aired on November 6, 2001, with an initial 13 episodes (the next 11 episodes were later ordered). The first six seasons were all centered around the Los Angeles branch of the U.S. government Counter Terrorist Unit (CTU).

24 is presented in real time, with each season depicting a 24-hour period in the life of Jack Bauer, who works with the U.S. government as it fights domestic threats. Bauer is often in the field for the Los Angeles Counter Terrorist Unit as they try to safeguard the nation from terrorist threats. The show also follows the actions of other CTU agents, government officials and terrorists associated with the plot. The first six seasons of the show were all based in Los Angeles and nearby locations — both real and fictional — in California, although occasionally other locations have been featured as well — most notably, Washington, D.C., where a notable portion of the episodes took place during the fourth and sixth seasons. Promotional materials for the seventh season have already established that, departing from tradition, it will be set primarily in Washington, D.C.

24: Redemption is a Golden Globe nominated television movie that bridges the gap between the sixth and seventh seasons of the TV series 24. The narrative in the episode takes place during a presidential inauguration and is split between the fictional African nation Sangala and the United States: in Sangala, Jack Bauer finds himself caught up in a military coup while trying to find a place where he can 'be at peace'; and in the United States, where President-elect Allison Taylor is being sworn in to office. The movie takes place in real-time, covering two hours, 3:00 to 5:00 PM, local time.

Why should I care?

Finally, after a loooong wait, the bloodbath begins once again. For those who haven't been keeping up, the last season of 24 (season 6) ended way back in May of 2007. Season 7 was scheduled to premiere at the beginning of 2008 as usual, but that darn writers strike put things on hold. Since it was unknown at the time how long the strike would last, and because they wanted to follow the tradition of airing the entire season straight through with no breaks from January to May, the decision was made to postpone the entire season until January 2009. However, because of the long break between seasons, we were given 24: Redemption in order to tide us over until January. But fear not, the new season is finally here!


You didn't answer my question, jerk.

You should care because 24 is only the greatest show about torturing freedom-hating foreigners ever! Okay, there's more to it than that, but let's be honest here, that's what we watch it for. It also has complex (if sometimes nonsensical) plots, an interesting story structure, fun characters, and can be highly addictive. It's hard to explain what makes this show so great, so the best thing you can do is to rent the first season some time and burn through it over a weekend. Only then will you understand.


But I've never watched 24 before, I won't know what's going on.

Not true. Yes, you won't get every little reference in the show, but now's a great time to jump in. After the somewhat lackluster Season 6, the show is undergoing somewhat of a "reboot" for Season 7 and Redemption. If you've ever wanted to watch but were intimidated by the serial nature of the show, you should give it a try.


Don't tell me what to do.

That's a great question! Redemption aired on Sunday November 23, 2008, and the DVD is available in stores now. Season 7 begins in January on the [URL=""]FOX[/URL] network. See their website for more info on dates and times when it premieres in your country.


Alright fine, I'll watch, but I'll have to Tivo it for later. I'd better not get spoiled in here before I get to watch it.

Good call. The Spoiler Policy in this thread will be:

• Everything from Season 1-6 will not require spoilers. It's been over a year, it's fair game.
• Discussion of Redemption and Season 7 require a spoiler tag.
• Spoilers for future episodes should also have a label saying as much.

And to wrap it up, here are trailers for both Redemption and for Season 7!

[URL=""]24: Redemption[/URL]

[URL=""]Season 7[/URL]

Spoiler:

So help me God I will kill you, and you will stay dead this time!

Wetsun

tofu wrote: »

Sarksus wrote: »

I've seen them do silent clocks for all sorts of shit. I was watching the first season a few weeks ago and they pulled out a silent clock while Terry was walking away from the car crash. I am pretty sure this is when it happened. Were they just trying to fool us then?

The only silent clock in season 1 is at the end, when Jack finds Teri.

I think every season has one silent clock but I can't be completely sure.

http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Silent_clock

Saint Justice

It was pretty good, but it took a while to hit its stride. Definitely looking forward to season 7.

APZonerunner

Looking forward to season 7, but this still just felt... weak in places. I'm worried the show is past it's best, but I hope for day 7 to prove me wrong.

Shadowfire

Just finished watching. Some parts annoyed me a bit, but I am definitely pumped for January.

Fucking January.

Spoiler:

Did Carl really have to die? Can they please keep a guest character alive for more than a couple hours? Because really, some decent characters have been killed off for no real good reason (the bank manager in season 5, for instance).

Edit: Season 7 preview

Spoiler:

WTF Tony. Also, the new FBI chick is hot, but the rest of the office is a bunch of dorks.

Preacher

Shadowfire wrote: »

Just finished watching. Some parts annoyed me a bit, but I am definitely pumped for January.

Fucking January.

Spoiler:

Did Carl really have to die? Can they please keep a guest character alive for more than a couple hours? Because really, some decent characters have been killed off for no real good reason (the bank manager in season 5, for instance).

It's the 24 way, no one lives ever. You're a guest star you know you have an expiration date, either you're a traitor or random victim.

tardcore

That's all I have to say about 24: Redemption.

Emanon

Finally watched the show on the DVR... this weekend I will go out to buy Far Cry 2.

Element Brian

I mentioned this in another thread..but, a couple years ago I got the flu and hallucinated that I was Jack Bauer and had to go and save Tony...It didn't help that I had a mexican guy in my apartment down the hall who kept saying the name Almeda for some reason....

Olivaw

Hey so I haven't watched 24 in a few years, what was that one season that everyone liked where it was like all action all the time and less retarded drama? I was thinking I'd Netflix it

I think Jack ripped a dude's throat out or something

EliteBattleman

Olivaw wrote: »

I think Jack ripped a dude's throat out or something

If you're looking for an even slightly decent story, don't bother.

Otherwise, it's season 6.

He bit a dudes throat out... in the first episode.

Olivaw

EliteBattleman wrote: »

Olivaw wrote: »

I think Jack ripped a dude's throat out or something

If you're looking for an even slightly decent story, don't bother.

Otherwise, it's season 6.

He bit a dudes throat out... in the first episode.

Eh, 24 has always been pretty stupid

I watched it to see Jack Bauer beat the shit out of bad guys and shout "THERE'S NO TIME WHERE'S MY DAUGHTER" a lot

Dac

They're bringing back

Spoiler:

Tony?!

But they can't bring back NINA? ... Tch.

I will always hold that it would be interesting to reintroduce Nina. Maybe the last few years she's been recovering from the number Jack did on her, sequestered away from view by the government because - zomg twist - she was actually undercover the entire time. Oh em geez, how would Jack deal with the fact that Nina had to kill his wife for her cover and the good of the country?!...

Stupid. But not any more stupid than 24 has been.

tofu

Dac wrote: »

They're bringing back

Spoiler:

Tony?!

But they can't bring back NINA? ... Tch.

I will always hold that it would be interesting to reintroduce Nina. Maybe the last few years she's been recovering from the number Jack did on her, sequestered away from view by the government because - zomg twist - she was actually undercover the entire time. Oh em geez, how would Jack deal with the fact that Nina had to kill his wife for her cover and the good of the country?!...

Stupid. But not any more stupid than 24 has been.

Way more stupid.

They should just do a full fledged zombie apocalypse.

frank as fuck

I stopped watching this after I couldn't handle the atrociousness of what happened to Kim Bauer in a 24 hour period and the unapologetic way the show portrayed every female as weak or treacherous. Has this changed at all?

tofu

Nope

Katholic

frank as fuck wrote: »

I stopped watching this after I couldn't handle the atrociousness of what happened to Kim Bauer in a 24 hour period and the unapologetic way the show portrayed every female as weak or treacherous. Has this changed at all?

But...but...women are weak and treacherous.

Shadowfire

Dac wrote: »

They're bringing back

Spoiler:

Tony?!

But they can't bring back NINA? ... Tch.

I will always hold that it would be interesting to reintroduce Nina. Maybe the last few years she's been recovering from the number Jack did on her, sequestered away from view by the government because - zomg twist - she was actually undercover the entire time. Oh em geez, how would Jack deal with the fact that Nina had to kill his wife for her cover and the good of the country?!...

Stupid. But not any more stupid than 24 has been.

Slightly different, but only barely. Tony died in his arms, but was immediately whisked away. It's plausible that he was revived.

Jack shot Nina in the face while she lied prone.

Big Dookie

So I watched Redemption again last night to make sure I'm caught up for Season 7, and though I must admit I wasn't crazy about it when I watched it back in November, I had a much more positive view of the show after watching it last night.

Spoiler:

The first time I was kind of disappointed because it seemed sort of slow and didn't seem to have much bearing on the overall story. However, I'm now kind of liking the idea of making Jack an actual human being again, instead of the mindless robot killing machine he's been for the last couple of seasons. I can definitely see this concept extending deep into the next season as he has to struggle with Tony's apparent betrayal, and as he has to answer for some of the things he's done in the past.

Less than a week!

Cantide

Big Dookie wrote: »

So I watched Redemption again last night to make sure I'm caught up for Season 7, and though I must admit I wasn't crazy about it when I watched it back in November, I had a much more positive view of the show after watching it last night.

Spoiler:

The first time I was kind of disappointed because it seemed sort of slow and didn't seem to have much bearing on the overall story. However, I'm now kind of liking the idea of making Jack an actual human being again, instead of the mindless robot killing machine he's been for the last couple of seasons. I can definitely see this concept extending deep into the next season as he has to struggle with Tony's apparent betrayal, and as he has to answer for some of the things he's done in the past.

Less than a week!

The only problem with this is

Spoiler:

the people behind the show have typically been very supportive of the methods Jack uses. Rather than condemning him for the unethical and inhumane stuff he's done in the past, I'm guessing the show will eventually paint his accusers as wishy-washy appeasers who don't have what it takes to keep America safe. Mind you, I'd love to be wrong.

Big Dookie

Yeah, you could be right. History certainly wouldn't support it, but I still hope they will prove me wrong.

YodaTuna

frank as fuck wrote: »

I stopped watching this after I couldn't handle the atrociousness of what happened to Kim Bauer in a 24 hour period and the unapologetic way the show portrayed every female as weak or treacherous. Has this changed at all?

Chloe is going to fucking kill you.

Also the president in S7 is a woman.

GungHo

You know when I really started to love Chloe? She tasered the guy twice.

Big Dookie

Yeah, I have to admit that Chloe has grown on me. It took a really long time, but she grew on me.

mugginns

Chloe with the m4 or m16 was pretty awesome as well.

Malkor

I too have a thing for strong women.

I am ready for this season.

So ready.

I hope it's not in LA.

nexuscrawler

The "day of 101 creepy dudes" plotline with Kim was soooo lame.

Wetsun

End of season 3 is still my favorite I think.

Spoiler:

Chase's hand, cryin' Jack.

Narian

Malkor wrote: »

I hope it's not in LA.

Washington, D.C.

GungHo

Wetsun wrote: »

End of season 3 is still my favorite I think.

Spoiler:

Chase's hand, cryin' Jack.

I dunno. Season 4's lamp cord torture was a highlight. Do you think they have torture brainstorming sessions? When are they gonna get to three-ring binders on the bridge of the nose torture? Hole puncher to the webbing between the thumb and forefinger? I'm sure there's something they can do with the chain wallets that the "alternative" kids wear.

Preacher

nexuscrawler wrote: »

The "day of 101 creepy dudes" plotline with Kim was soooo lame.

Kim is lame, I just can't believe a guy like Jack would spawn someone so fucking retarded. If daddy was away for long periods of time you'd assume Kim would mimic him for approval, but instead she's like retarded. I figure she's not even Jacks real kid, Terry gave off the slut vibe (I have amnesia).

tallgeeze

I stop watching after season 2. If I remember right the beginning of season 2 started off with Jack killing an informant and sawing off his head to get in with some militia types.

Anything since then that can top that? Knowing Jack I'm sure the bar has been raised.

Preacher

tallgeeze wrote: »

I stop watching after season 2. If I remember right the beginning of season 2 started off with Jack killing an informant and sawing off his head to get in with some militia types.

Anything since then that can top that? Knowing Jack I'm sure the bar has been raised.

Man that was an awesome way of showing jack didn't take no shit, besides guy was a child toucher if I recall from the brief mention.

Hmm jack lopped off one of his own teams hands to prevent a biological weapon from going off and he straight murdered Nina while she was begging for her life.

GungHo

Well, the informant was a child molester, whereas Audrey's ex-husband was meerly a name on the lease.

Jragghen

Do we need to watch the special before this season? I started watching it, but it bored me and I never finished it.

Edit: On the topic of the guy losing his head, I wish they hadn't added the child-touchey thing. They needed to make it so that the guy was "bad" in peoples' minds to justify Jack's actions. I would have preferred it if the show had challenged people to accept Jack doing it to a perfectly innocent man.

Preacher

Jragghen wrote: »

Do we need to watch the special before this season? I started watching it, but it bored me and I never finished it.

Edit: On the topic of the guy losing his head, I wish they hadn't added the child-touchey thing. They needed to make it so that the guy was "bad" in peoples' minds to justify Jack's actions. I would have preferred it if the show had challenged people to accept Jack doing it to a perfectly innocent man.

Yeah it was pretty obvious why they added that. Then again I think we all know that Jack would straight murder an innocent person to save thousands. I mean he's an end justifies the means kind of guy.

Malkor

So less torture this year or the same amount? I'ma thinking there's gonna be none.

Preacher

Malkor wrote: »

So less torture this year or the same amount? I'ma thinking there's gonna be none.

There'll be some torture. I'm hoping Tony turns out to be a double agent and him and jack team up 80s style.

jefe414

I'm hoping Tony is the ONLY double agent. I grew weary of the double-double betrayal by everyone. Also, CTU really needs to redo its security since every year a bad guy sneaks in undercover and kills people.

Preacher

jefe414 wrote: »

I'm hoping Tony is the ONLY double agent. I grew weary of the double-double betrayal by everyone. Also, CTU really needs to redo its security since every year a bad guy sneaks in undercover and kills people.

Yeah honestly after Nina it was kind of like "What the fuck does CTU hire people out of Will Betray magazine?"

Big Dookie

I'm sure there will be some, but I've read they're cutting back on it this season.

Edit - RE: The torture issue.