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Terminator: Cancellation of Show Chronicles [nsf56k i guess]

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    It wasn't necessarily all FOX's fault. T:SCC had it's chance right before the writers decided to take a trip down sucky lane with the sarah-is-dreamin-crazy-shit episodes. I even stopped watching for a bit after that. Seriously, all most viewers really wanted was more Cameron and BAG. JC was cool too, but Sarah was way too one-dimensional and railed on a single task to be able to carry entire episodes on her own.

    no it wasnt, it was because its cheaper to make dollhouse then t:scc, that's the sole reason.

  • Richard_DastardlyRichard_Dastardly Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The show's ratings dropped considerably during the CRAZY SARAH arc, which lasted e13-16, and never rebounded.

    Edit: Yeah, that was following the move to Fridays. But, it and DH were pretty heavily advertised what with the whole Cameron and Dzysfitzlefish "hosting" the monumentous return from the mid-season break for terminator (and premier for DH). I was almost expecting the to make out.

    But, why the fuck am I defending FOX?

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  • AtomikaAtomika YOU ARE COMPLETELY DISREGARDING THE LABOR THEORY OF VALUE YOU ARE A BARNACLERegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    As much as I liked the show and hate to admit this, SCC totally bagged it and earned its marching papers with a very shitty run during the middle of the second season. It had already done the hard part (i.e., getting people to tune in), and then the show blew the goodwill the first season and its awesome finale bestowed on it by introducing the pointless Riley/Jesse bullshit roundabout and the handful of episodes where Sarah chases dots on the wall that she thinks are meaningful.

    This show got its initial interest from people watching Cameron break shit and from Derek and John blowing fuckers up. Cameron is virtually absent from Season 2, so is Derek, and John just mopes and groans about not wanting his destiny and how much of a bitch Riley was being.

    I wish there was a season three to this show, but it got what it asked for with its poor planning and writing.

  • CristoCristo Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Based from the Season 2 finale, Season 3 would have been absolutely immense.

    But then again, it's not too long since it was cancelled (it aired it's last episode this year, no?) so it's not implausible that it's picked up again.

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    So, after having read all of his stuff, Pony's officially my hero now. I wish I could be that callous towards humanity.
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Cristo wrote: »
    Based from the Season 2 finale, Season 3 would have been absolutely immense.

    But then again, it's not too long since it was cancelled (it aired it's last episode this year, no?) so it's not implausible that it's picked up again.

    They tore down the sets and stuff.

    There was a panel with Thomas Dekker this weekend at FanExpo, the show is not coming back ever. He's telling people to give up on "save the show!" type campaigns because the show is done.

    The dude who wrote the thing is trying to get a comic book deal to resolve the plot, since that's what canceled shows do now I guess?

  • CristoCristo Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Man that fucking sucks dick.

    Unlucky wrote: »
    So, after having read all of his stuff, Pony's officially my hero now. I wish I could be that callous towards humanity.
  • Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    It was also reported around the time of its cancellation that Warner Bros. was so desperate to keep the show going until Terminator:Salvation came out that it greatly slashed its licensing fee to Fox. It's arguably the only reason the show even got the back 9 for Season 2.

    While the Friday night slot was the final nail in the coffin, the show was on borrowed time ever since its weak ratings in the Monday slot when it came back for Season 2.

  • TubeTube Says some shit Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited August 2009
    Cristo wrote: »
    It wasn't necessarily all FOX's fault. T:SCC had it's chance right before the writers decided to take a trip down sucky lane with the sarah-is-dreamin-crazy-shit episodes. I even stopped watching for a bit after that. Seriously, all most viewers really wanted was more Cameron and BAG. JC was cool too, but Sarah was way too one-dimensional and railed on a single task to be able to carry entire episodes on her own.

    No.

    No.

    It's fox's fault.

    The whole Sarah is dreaming crazy shit lasted, what one episode? That's hardly enough to bring about the demise of an entire show. Not to mention it turned out that shit was real what with the boob implant and everything.

    It's not Fox's fault. The show was unsuccesful, so it got canceled. Grow up.

  • CristoCristo Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    People gave up on it far too quickly.

    As some people have stated here, they quit the show because of a couple of bad episodes in the middle. Guess what? Sometimes episodes in a show suck, that's a reason to give it up.

    It's annoying because the last episodes were so good, especially the finale. And I don't know what growing up has to do with anything.

    Unlucky wrote: »
    So, after having read all of his stuff, Pony's officially my hero now. I wish I could be that callous towards humanity.
  • ShensShens Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Networks do not give shows the chance anymore to air bad episodes. SCC had a bunch.

    The days where a show like Star Trek: TNG could go on to have seven seasons, even though the first two seasons had horrible slumps, are long gone.

  • VoodooVVoodooV Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Seriously? The first episode should have been Sarah being shot in the head by Cromartie. Cameron saves JC from a similar fate. Bring in BAG to act as the parental figure, yet way cooler than Sarah. Show lasts for 5 seasons at least.

    The show SHOULD have been the John Connor Chronicles, not Sarah Yes, Sarah is awesome because she's a "strong female character" blah blah blah. But we don't care about mommy, regardless of her MILF status.

  • FyreWulffFyreWulff Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Or maybe people actually wanted to watch something interesting instead of those episodes.

    Experimental postmodern bullshit is to be done after a show is well established.

  • Richard_DastardlyRichard_Dastardly Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    Or maybe people actually wanted to watch something interesting instead of those episodes.

    Experimental postmodern bullshit is to be done after a show is well established.
    And yet Lost is going on it's 6th season. I've pissed on rocks that were less dense than this show and yet people continue to watch it.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Look, I liked this show and it had some good episodes later in the second season, but it was crap and deserved to get canned.

    That streak everyone is talking about in early-mid season 2, the "crazy sarah" episodes; they very nearly made me stop watching the show at all. I missed 2-3 episodes after that, only picking it up at the end. If they put out better episodes my opinion would be different.

    Now, if they do some good comics to finalize the storyline that would be cool. I might check that out.

  • override367override367 misogynist/MRA/socially irresponsible Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I wish they would give us a dvd movie to wrap it up, but it's doubtful that will happen

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  • CristoCristo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah override, that would be a nice way to wrap things up. Very much like Serenity did with Firefly and all of those Stargate movies (although, the Stargate movies weren't really needed to finish off the storyline).

    But I am however surprised to see how quickly people give up on a show, shit. You guys must have the attention span of goldfish, you don't give up on a show with so much potential after a crappy episode or 2.

    I can't name any shows that don't have a couple of episodes somewhere in the middle that aren't as good as the rest.

    Unlucky wrote: »
    So, after having read all of his stuff, Pony's officially my hero now. I wish I could be that callous towards humanity.
  • AtomikaAtomika YOU ARE COMPLETELY DISREGARDING THE LABOR THEORY OF VALUE YOU ARE A BARNACLERegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Cristo wrote: »
    Yeah override, that would be a nice way to wrap things up. Very much like Serenity did with Firefly and all of those Stargate movies (although, the Stargate movies weren't really needed to finish off the storyline).

    But I am however surprised to see how quickly people give up on a show, shit. You guys must have the attention span of goldfish, you don't give up on a show with so much potential after a crappy episode or 2.

    I can't name any shows that don't have a couple of episodes somewhere in the middle that aren't as good as the rest.

    It wasn't just "an episode or two," guy. It was the entire arc of the mid-season run. Show some objectivity.

  • ProPatriaMoriProPatriaMori Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I, too, got sick of the show during the crazy Sarah arc. Only kept watching because Hulu just made it that easy to do.

  • Richard_DastardlyRichard_Dastardly Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    It was sad too, cuz there were interesting things going on in the B & C plots during the Crazy Sarah arc, especially with John Henry. And the end was so awesome... JC in the future and, after all this talk of destiny, finds out humanity goes on fighting without him. If it wasn't for me wanting to know what's gonna happen with JH and Catherine, it would've been a fitting end to the series.

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  • CristoCristo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Cristo wrote: »
    Yeah override, that would be a nice way to wrap things up. Very much like Serenity did with Firefly and all of those Stargate movies (although, the Stargate movies weren't really needed to finish off the storyline).

    But I am however surprised to see how quickly people give up on a show, shit. You guys must have the attention span of goldfish, you don't give up on a show with so much potential after a crappy episode or 2.

    I can't name any shows that don't have a couple of episodes somewhere in the middle that aren't as good as the rest.

    It wasn't just "an episode or two," guy. It was the entire arc of the mid-season run. Show some objectivity.

    Sorry, "guy", maybe it's just my subconcious ignoring the Crazy Sarah bit because I really don't remember it as being all that horrendously god-awful bad.

    Just to let me clear things up, we're talking about the whole "3 dots" thing and not the "kidnapping guard/breast implant" thing yeah?

    Unlucky wrote: »
    So, after having read all of his stuff, Pony's officially my hero now. I wish I could be that callous towards humanity.
  • KhavallKhavall Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
  • CristoCristo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I'm not your buddy bro

    Unlucky wrote: »
    So, after having read all of his stuff, Pony's officially my hero now. I wish I could be that callous towards humanity.
  • KhavallKhavall Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
  • RedTideRedTide Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Awful all over.

  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    im siding with Cristo on this, it wasn't that bad.. ridiculous kyle facial hair aside.

    also you too can look hot in dereks coat.

    http://www.magnoliclothiers.com/reese-field-jacket-casual-p-300.html (awesome site if you're rich)

  • KhavallKhavall Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I was mostly calling him awful on completely misquoting the I'm not your guy buddy cycle

  • CristoCristo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I'm sorry I don't have South Park memorised

    :cry:

    Unlucky wrote: »
    So, after having read all of his stuff, Pony's officially my hero now. I wish I could be that callous towards humanity.
  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    im siding with Cristo on this, it wasn't that bad.. ridiculous kyle facial hair aside.

    also you too can look hot in dereks coat.

    http://www.magnoliclothiers.com/reese-field-jacket-casual-p-300.html (awesome site if you're rich)
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  • YallYall Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    im siding with Cristo on this, it wasn't that bad.. ridiculous kyle facial hair aside.

    also you too can look hot in dereks coat.

    http://www.magnoliclothiers.com/reese-field-jacket-casual-p-300.html (awesome site if you're rich)

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I said it somewhere earlier in the thread but it always struck me as odd that SCC never had a good car chase scene. All the Terminator movies have spectacular car chases and they were noticeably absent from the TV series. I'd say it was a budget issue but then they had episodes with subs and flying saucers and Shirley bot so ... what the hell? Less shootin' and more fancy drivin', please.

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  • ElkiElki GOBS OF PUKE!!! YES!!!!!!!Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited September 2009
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    Or maybe people actually wanted to watch something interesting instead of those episodes.

    Experimental postmodern bullshit is to be done after a show is well established.
    And yet Lost is going on it's 6th season. I've pissed on rocks that were less dense than this show and yet people continue to watch it.

    That's what Lost is built on, though. People tune in to SCC and Lost with completely different expectations.

  • CristoCristo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    There's no way in hell I understand why Heroes is in its 5th season for that matter, either.

    I've been following both series, and I barely know what's going on.

    Unlucky wrote: »
    So, after having read all of his stuff, Pony's officially my hero now. I wish I could be that callous towards humanity.
  • Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2009
    Bear in mind, Cristo, that you got to blow through all of SCC in an afternoon while most of us had to wait a week in between episodes. And consider the show returned from midseason hiatus with a weak start, it was real easy to lose interest in something that had barely been back.

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  • Nakatomi2010Nakatomi2010 Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Yall wrote: »
    im siding with Cristo on this, it wasn't that bad.. ridiculous kyle facial hair aside.

    also you too can look hot in dereks coat.

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    Those people are crazy expensive....

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    $450 for an Indiana Jones knock off jacket? Why not get an original?

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    Even after the import fees you're still only looking at about 300 dollars or so... And you're getting it from the company that made the original... Hell, those other people have other expensive knock offs that these guys are selling cheaper....

    I got my Raiders jacket from them... Though the price appears to have gone down....

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yall wrote: »
    im siding with Cristo on this, it wasn't that bad.. ridiculous kyle facial hair aside.

    also you too can look hot in dereks coat.

    http://www.magnoliclothiers.com/reese-field-jacket-casual-p-300.html (awesome site if you're rich)

    Or pay 1/8 of the price for a real one:

    http://m65fieldjacket.com/product_info.php/cPath/21/products_id/42

    its not the same! :?

  • CristoCristo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Bear in mind, Cristo, that you got to blow through all of SCC in an afternoon while most of us had to wait a week in between episodes. And consider the show returned from midseason hiatus with a weak start, it was real easy to lose interest in something that had barely been back.

    This... this is true.

    I can completely understand that, because it's happened to me too. I think a mid-season hiatus has killed off many shows and will kill off many a show in the future, especially if there's already a lull in the storyline. Which is very unfortunate.

    Unlucky wrote: »
    So, after having read all of his stuff, Pony's officially my hero now. I wish I could be that callous towards humanity.
  • valiancevaliance Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Bear in mind, Cristo, that you got to blow through all of SCC in an afternoon while most of us had to wait a week in between episodes. And consider the show returned from midseason hiatus with a weak start, it was real easy to lose interest in something that had barely been back.

    Yeah the show needed to come back with an exciting arc after the (interminable) hiatus.

  • Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I remember after that string of episodes aired, Josh Friedman posted a blog (I think someone put it in this thread at the time) that was like: "These were the type of episodes I wanted to do. If it gets the show canceled, so be it!"

    ...Yeah.

  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    This show had an amazing score.

  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    This show had an amazing score.

    Of course it did, Bear McCreary wrote it

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