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Coalition of the Illin' [Canadian Politics]

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  • ZoolanderZoolander Registered User
    edited December 2008
    The constitution does not fix the size of the House of Commons, which is re-adjusted every ten years after a census. The House has 308 seats assigned to the provinces based on their populations. However, the "senatorial clause" guarantees each province at least as many Members of Parliament as senators. Furthermore, the "grandfather clause" guarantees each province at least as many Members of Parliament as it had in 1976 or in 1985. Because of these two clauses, the size of the House of Commons exceeds the minimum (282). At present, the House includes 308 members.
    sounds to me like its based on populations

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  • ZoolanderZoolander Registered User
    edited December 2008
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    Having the right amount of members doesn't mean Alberta is represented all of the time, especially since we're the economic engine of the country.

    oh so its just quebec-style whining
    ok

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  • KetBraKetBra hiRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Isn't the Prime Minister from Alberta? It seems to me that Alberta is the best represented province in government right now.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    We're not seeing much, but admittedly that could be our premiers fault and not the east coast.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Albertans don't whine about the east coast; we whine about what east coasters are whining about, and how we have it harder out here.

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  • echolocationecholocation Registered User
    edited December 2008
    I don't like Dion. He is not well-spoken and having osmeone like him at the head of my country would make me feel foolish to be living here. I would be disgraced to call my self a Canadian.

    I don't positively love Harper, but I still believe he is the best choice of all of them, except for Jack Layton, who would be a well-spoken, charismatic, intelligent leader. If only he chose the right party.

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  • VorusVorus Registered User
    edited December 2008
    when every province outside of ontario is whining about representation, it might be worth a look

    and representation according to population is fine until you have a country with 10 provinces where 2 of them control the mandate for the country

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  • KetBraKetBra hiRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    How else do we do it?

    Representation by oil reserves?

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    We could do it based on amount of Gemini's hosted.

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  • VorusVorus Registered User
    edited December 2008
    anything near equal representation would be nice, frankly

    and, just to make myself clear, I am not trying to get canada to be more conservative. I just want the west, and alberta in particular, to stop using alienation as a reason to have the same party in power for 70 years

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  • KetBraKetBra hiRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Maybe representation by deforestation?

    The more trees you cut down, the more votes you get.

    It will cause a surge in the forestry industry, and employ lots of people!

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  • KetBraKetBra hiRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I understand what you mean. I think more regional representation is needed, but the Senate is where that's supposed to come into play, so I think that Senate reform would be a better step, rather than changing the voting rules for the House of Commons.

    Also, I was born in Saskatchewn, and live in Alberta, so I get the Western Alienation thing.

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  • ZoolanderZoolander Registered User
    edited December 2008
    lol Senate

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  • ArgusArgus Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    CorpseRT wrote: »
    How else do we do it?

    Representation by oil reserves?

    You could always do it the American way-- representation according to arbitrarily drawn state lines, which means that the 2 senators from California together represent 36 million people, while the 2 senators for South Dakota represent 700,000 people, :|.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Proportional representation would do everything for our MP's, yeah, but it wouldn't help regionalization one iota.

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  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I've lived in all four of Canada's western provinces.

    That makes me the alienist.

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  • VorusVorus Registered User
    edited December 2008
    canada is so good at progressive social policy but so fucking bad at actually putting together a government it is kind of ridiculous

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  • ArgusArgus Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Vorus wrote: »
    canada is so good at progressive social policy but so fucking bad at actually putting together a government it is kind of ridiculous

    At least you aren't arguing about dudes sticking it in each other's butts as a major piece of national legislative concern, :|.

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  • KetBraKetBra hiRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    I've lived in all four of Canada's western provinces.

    That makes me the alienist.

    Yeah, well in the course of an elevator trip in Toronto I managed to piss off everyone from all different regions of Ontario through a series of misplaced jokes. Oh, and a dude from Quebec.

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2008
    Vorus wrote: »
    when every province outside of ontario is whining about representation, it might be worth a look

    and representation according to population is fine until you have a country with 10 provinces where 2 of them control the mandate for the country

    what's funny is that even ontario is whining about representation

    everyone whines about the federal government not giving them enough money

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  • KetBraKetBra hiRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Hey, Ontario's one of them have-not provinces now. They're in on the money, now, too.

    Hilariously, it's Alberta, BC, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland & Labrador that are the have provinces.

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2008
    everyone i know is jealous of alberta and bc because i live in a depressed area

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  • KetBraKetBra hiRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I get the feeling Alberta's going to shit soon because of tanking oil prices.

    Going to be seeing a lot of big trucks for sale, soon.

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  • VorusVorus Registered User
    edited December 2008
    alberta homeless people are the most depressing homeless people

    not even the rigs would hire them

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  • ShurakaiShurakai Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I have no idea what is going on but it sounds like a bad time.

    The last thing any country needs right now is an unstable government.

    I'm fine here in Alberta because lots of people still have money and jobs are easy to find, but I still don't want the rest of the country to go down the shithole.

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  • ThatDudeOverThereThatDudeOverThere I HAVE YOU NOW Arena QueueRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    it is like you are all speaking some language that somewhat resembles words I understand but isn't quite there

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  • seizureorbsseizureorbs Registered User
    edited December 2008
    I love your politicians

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    This isn't the America thread.

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  • seizureorbsseizureorbs Registered User
    edited December 2008
    no, I love the canadian politicians

    ours are too dignified and stately

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    no, I love the canadian politicians

    ours are too dignified and stately

    So it's like comparing Ted DiBiase to Steve Austin?

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  • KetBraKetBra hiRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    It's always great to hear our MP's yelling at each other in the background while the Honourable Member from some place is making a speech.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Argh this is frustrating

    it's like choosing between cat and dog poop for dinner

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  • KetBraKetBra hiRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Except that we don't actually get to choose, we just get blindfolded and handed a plate and a fork.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Can I also say that I consider Macleans to be a rag

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  • DerLustigeBosniakDerLustigeBosniak Registered User
    edited December 2008
    Macleans is fucking horrible. Everything is a disaster according to them.

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  • KetBraKetBra hiRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Macleans is a disaster.

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  • RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
  • RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I just really would rather not have dion leading the country for any amount of time

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  • VorusVorus Registered User
    edited December 2008
    I want to hibernate until Ignattieff is in charge

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