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[PHOTO] Bells! Batman Smells!

GrifterGrifter TorontoSuper Moderator, Moderator mod
edited February 2009 in Artist's Corner
In this thread, we post photos!

All photos are welcome, though most people post with the intention of receiving criticism so that they can become better photographers. Please do not spoiler your photos as that defeats the purpose of the thread.

For photography newbies:
What type of camera should I buy?
This can't be answered the same for every person. There's little difference in the photo quality between most major brands (Canon, Nikon, etc) so it comes down to price and personal preference. Make sure your camera lets you control settings like shutter speed, aperture, and ISO and preferably lets you capture images in RAW format. Other than that, get a bit of hands on time and see how the camera feels to you. Also remember that if you're buying an SLR, camera bodies come and go but lenses usually last while. For this reason it might be worth it to buy a cheaper body and spend a bit extra on some lenses.

Speaking of lenses, which ones should I buy?
Most kit lenses are a good starting place, though you'll begin to find them more limited once you're more comfortable with your camera. A good entry level prime lens for Canon cameras is this little guy. Other than that, you'll probably want to pick up a telezoom lens with a macro feature. This should get you set for a long while.

Any good books/sites I should read?
Lots of people recommend Understanding Exposure or the first Ansel Adams book. Don't bother buying any book that tells you how to use your specific camera model. All of that information can be found in your user's manual.

How do I become awesome at arting?
The best advice I can give is: keep taking pictures. That being said, don't just randomly point your camera at something and hit the shutter button. Stop for a moment to think about why you're taking this picture. What are you trying to show people? Is the current lighting/angle/etc going to help you show that? If so, proceed. If not, adjust your settings or body to capture it another way.

Resources/Tools:
Lightroom - Awesome software for managing your photo collection and editing RAW files.
LR Mogrify - Unfortunately Lightroom doesn't have a border option so use this tool. It also does watermarks and the like.
Canon Firmware Update - Unofficial firmware update that allows more options one some Canon cameras.
Strobist - Fantastic source on getting into off camera lighting. Don't be put off by initial complexities. It'll come.
Flickr - A free photo hosting site. Also has a pro option if you like. There's also a PA flickr group.
Phorumr - If you're using flickr and Firefox, this script auto generates the code you need to paste into the forum.
Photoshop Pyramid - Helps regulate your daily dose of Photoshop.
A DIY plexiglass frame - Nifty.
DIY Bokeh - A neat DIY to getting bokeh shapes.

There's also a great write up from Pope:
Spoiler:

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  • needOpticneedOptic Registered User
    edited December 2008
    Yeah, not feeling the first one. Too saturated and too cluttered for my taste. I love all the textures, but the high contrast behind the bike make it really hard to understand what's going on.

    The second one is very nice.

  • JivesJives Registered User
    edited December 2008
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    I love your first photo pope

  • projectmayhemprojectmayhem Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Here are some random ones I found while looking through my old photobucket account. All of these are taken with either a Olympus 7070 or this random Panasonic digital I had many moons ago.

    sethgumsmall.jpg

    ThisisJoshBreaking.jpg

    P1020353.jpg

    RacetheSun48.jpg

    P1020065.jpg

    I am debating on picking up an Xti and some lenses and seeing what I can do.

  • ThylacineThylacine Registered User
    edited December 2008
    Project Mayhem: If you can afford it, I would go for the XSi. I have the XTi, and I do like it a lot, but I messed with the XSi in best buy and it has some nice features I wish I had and (from the little I played with it) it was nice to have image stabilization come on the kit lens. Though I suppose if you just got the right lens to stick on the XTi you could get that.

  • erisian popeerisian pope Registered User
    edited December 2008
    Man, I am getting lazy or possibly distracted. I totally forgot to edit out the leaf-bits in my second photo (the ones that intersect the top of the image). Ugh! I'll edit and replace it shortly.

    Jives, I am still digesting your picture. I tend to shy away from pictures of death/dead animals, but mainly because it's a powerful topic that I am not comfortable with standard methods of conveyance (some people show the ridiculous, like Dali's skull made of nude women; some people overwhelm you with it like the bone cathedral or that woman photographer who held the two dead birds to her eyes (forget the name); etc).

    More than 75% of your frame is blurry. In a way I think that helps carry the image, but I think perhaps the top 15% of the frame being all blur then the next ~15% being so filled with blur (the bird is only starting to enter the frame at this point) maybe a little too much. My eye wanders around this area a pretty long time before 'finding' the bird. On the other hand, some of the wandering is good, that's what makes the sudden discovery of the bird a powerful experience. The blanket of ice (obviously) is key, as it further obscures the bird (and suggests a 'blanket' like the bird is sleeping, and it has other effects, too), but I digress .... I think there's a fine line to find between too much room for the eye to wander before finding the bird and the right amount. I think you have too much, but I could not make a good suggestion on how much to crop off to achieve the right amount. The leaf-stem intersecting the bird's head is not ideal, but I am not surprised you didn't move it (touching it might be kinda gross, and also might disturb the mud).

    So I am not sure the picture could ever achieve what it sets out to achieve, but it's pretty damn close, and it's quite effective nonetheless.



    I hope you don't mind my long-winded and possibly too know-it-all critique. I am talking out of my ass and I know it, even if my paragraph doesn't communicate that. Anyway, that's my thoughts.

  • altmannaltmann Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Oh fuck man. I didn't really do shit on the last photo thread but this one is great.

    I have seen prosipience and Sheri's photos on flickr and they're great. There are some fantastic shots here of the fog and snow.

    My Flickr. My Fruitfucker computer and my Annarchy computer. See my PAX 2006/07/08 Flickr sets

    "Look at that subtle off-white coloring, the tasteful thickness of it... Oh my God, it even has a watermark."
  • ThylacineThylacine Registered User
    edited December 2008
    I was going through my portable hard drive trying to organize things(hahaha), and ran across a few pics I hadn't seen in awhile. (Probably for a good reason...:-P)

    Haystacks-1.jpg

    bike.jpg

    coconut.jpg

    And, since this thread has been (mostly) light hearted:
    donttouch.jpg

    conga.jpg

  • ED!ED! Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Sacramento Zoo:

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    Couple photos from Sacramentos Run To Feed The Hungry annual chairty thing:

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    Nature around the office:

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    Weirdo:

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    "Get the hell out of me" - [ex]girlfriend
  • CommunistCowCommunistCow Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    These are great:
    IMG_8304web.jpg

    IMG_8284web.jpg

    P1020065.jpg

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    MAD LIB!*
    Everything else sucks because they need _______ contrast to give it more _______. If you _______ it so it is _______ it won't be so distracting. The subject is also _______ in _______ qualities to really give the viewer something to latch on to. You also cropped _______ to close to the _______. If you adhered to the rule of ______ it wouldn't look so boring. Also stop sucking at ________. Yours truly <irate photo critiquer>

    Your words:
    Thirds
    Defining
    Contrast
    Lacking
    Photography
    More
    Level
    Saturation
    Less
    Interest
    Punch
    Rotate
    Subject
    Frame

    *kind of but not really.

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    No, I am not really communist. Yes, it is weird that I use this name.
  • FlyingmanFlyingman Registered User
    edited December 2008
    Cow has blown my mind.

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  • UberslugUberslug Registered User
    edited December 2008
    Hey guys, does the file/automate/merge to HDR menu in photoshop do what I think it does? I don't have any multiple exposure shots to test it on.

  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Flyingman wrote: »
    Cow has blown my mind.

    Brain asplode.

    So, there are few things better than just taking the camera out all damn day and getting plenty of shots. PHOTO DUMP TIEM!

    3119616492_9c31ca5e0e.jpg 3119616668_fab4542d41.jpg 3118790033_1e6e2fbba8.jpg 3118790253_bb2d5f4ef9.jpg 3118790373_5710fd0925.jpg 3119617504_7bfee2054d.jpg 3119617638_c3beea1e26.jpg 3118790853_08e7ff8474.jpg 3118791035_93e0338be9.jpg 3119618134_a3ee117c1f.jpg

    Having snowy mountains like an hour away from my crazy desert landscape ROCKS.

  • hamburger helperhamburger helper Registered User
    edited December 2008
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    Dude, you BotP'd yourself!

    I really like this. The gray-tones are terrific and the DOF does a nice job of subject/background separation. Very nice.

    Sexy as fuck.

    Here's one o' mine done with a Nikon d80:

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  • needOpticneedOptic Registered User
    edited December 2008
    ED! wrote: »
    ...


    I like quite a few of these.

  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
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    Dude, you BotP'd yourself!

    I really like this. The gray-tones are terrific and the DOF does a nice job of subject/background separation. Very nice.

    Sexy as fuck.

    Here's one o' mine done with a Nikon d80:

    3097719479_e080842b14_b.jpg

    I'm not sure all that negative space works for me, personally...I think it would've worked better if you had a flash or something you could've popped in, depending on how long the actual distance was between you and the water, and you and the buoy.

  • ProtoProto Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    So I was just given an old Pentax S1a. Fantastic condition. The filter is a little banged up but the lens underneath is perfect. Woo!

    20081218-DSC_3301.jpg

    I'd like to run some black and white film through it, but I know nothing about film. What are the good brands?

    and her knees up on the glove compartment
    took out her barrettes and her hair spilled out like rootbeer
  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Does Kodak still do good stuff? I think their Kodachrome brand died, but they probably still have some quality film.

    Really, even bad film has a great look to it when the images come back, and every brand's gonna look different, and tastes will differ from person to person. I say grab a variety of brands on the cheap and go experiment.

  • needOpticneedOptic Registered User
    edited December 2008
  • bombardierbombardier mr. mully Vancouver, BCSuper Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited December 2008
    Everyone from Europe has the same haircut.

  • ThylacineThylacine Registered User
    edited December 2008
    Proto wrote: »
    I'd like to run some black and white film through it, but I know nothing about film. What are the good brands?

    I like some of the Ilford stuff. HP5 has given me good result...that's ISO 400. Tri-X has given me alright results too.

  • VirumVirum Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Spoilered for h-scroll rapage. Sorry about that.
    Spoiler:

    The only recent one is the sunrise, all the others I have just plucked from various photography folders on my hard drive and posted up onto DeviantArt today.

    ...and I thought of how all those people died, and what a good death that is. That nobody can blame you for it, because everyone else died along with you, and it is the fault of none, save those who did the killing.

    Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
  • needOpticneedOptic Registered User
    edited December 2008
    That rain detail picture has absolutely no reason to be this big. It's of horribly low quality and all pixelated.

  • erisian popeerisian pope Registered User
    edited December 2008
  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    The damn telephone poles are kinda distracting in the second one, but it's still a very slick image, pope. :)

    Now, my stuff got BOTP'd back on the last page. Anyone up for quoting it and critiquing?

  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    needOptic wrote: »
    That rain detail picture has absolutely no reason to be this big. It's of horribly low quality and all pixelated.

    Well, yeah, I had to do a tiny bit of zooming to get the detail. And it's not about the clarity of the picture, it's supposed to highlight the patterns the rain is making in tiny drops. I don't have a true SLR and I can't swap my lens out for a macro one, so I have to make do.

    ...and I thought of how all those people died, and what a good death that is. That nobody can blame you for it, because everyone else died along with you, and it is the fault of none, save those who did the killing.

    Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
  • erisian popeerisian pope Registered User
    edited December 2008
    yalborap wrote: »
    Flyingman wrote: »
    Cow has blown my mind.

    Brain asplode.

    So, there are few things better than just taking the camera out all damn day and getting plenty of shots. PHOTO DUMP TIEM!

    3119616492_9c31ca5e0e.jpg 3119616668_fab4542d41.jpg 3118790033_1e6e2fbba8.jpg 3118790253_bb2d5f4ef9.jpg 3118790373_5710fd0925.jpg 3119617504_7bfee2054d.jpg 3119617638_c3beea1e26.jpg 3118790853_08e7ff8474.jpg 3118791035_93e0338be9.jpg 3119618134_a3ee117c1f.jpg

    Having snowy mountains like an hour away from my crazy desert landscape ROCKS.

    Lots of images, will critique as soon as I'm done troubleshooting this damn ESX problem.

  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User
    edited December 2008
    I needed to take a break from PA, but I just wanted to drop in to say that you guys have been doing some great work lately.

    Just to share, because I don't put much of my work stuff up here:

    Regionals-4.jpg

    And then a few others:

    BlogSnow-5.jpg

    I've been doing some winter camping:

    lastlight.jpg

    BlogSnow-18.jpg

    edit: one more

    sunset.jpg

    Just in case you're curious, I spend the nights under the stars sleeping in a snow cave.

    BlogSnow-20.jpg

  • CommunistCowCommunistCow Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Those are some good snow pictures but I think your snow cave needs some work. Right now it just looks like a snow indention.

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    No, I am not really communist. Yes, it is weird that I use this name.
  • needOpticneedOptic Registered User
    edited December 2008
    lol

    Do bears ever chew your face off?

    And how does one deal with losing a face or say an arm?

  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User
    edited December 2008
    needOptic wrote: »
    lol

    Do bears ever chew your face off?

    And how does one deal with losing a face or say an arm?

    Bears are usually pretty good about just leaving you alone. And this time of year they're either hibernating or really slow.

    At any rate, I still have my shotgun whenever I do wilderness hikes.

  • needOpticneedOptic Registered User
    edited December 2008
    Uncle Long wrote: »
    needOptic wrote: »
    lol

    Do bears ever chew your face off?

    And how does one deal with losing a face or say an arm?

    Bears are usually pretty good about just leaving you alone. And this time of year they're either hibernating or really slow.

    At any rate, I still have my shotgun whenever I do wilderness hikes.

    Kickass. Just in case of zombies.

  • altmannaltmann Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    So...

    My roommate informed me he dropped my Camera, with my 17-40 F/4 L on it, which was like $700. My pride and joy.

    The UV filter is shattered, and won't come off the camera. I am not sure how to tell if the lens itself is still good. Any ideas? I'm fucking freaking out here.

    My Flickr. My Fruitfucker computer and my Annarchy computer. See my PAX 2006/07/08 Flickr sets

    "Look at that subtle off-white coloring, the tasteful thickness of it... Oh my God, it even has a watermark."
  • erisian popeerisian pope Registered User
    edited December 2008
    altmann wrote: »
    So...

    My roommate informed me he dropped my Camera, with my 17-40 F/4 L on it, which was like $700. My pride and joy.

    The UV filter is shattered, and won't come off the camera. I am not sure how to tell if the lens itself is still good. Any ideas? I'm fucking freaking out here.

    Dude! That sucks!

    That's the primary argument I have heard against leaving a UV filter on all the time (which people to to protect the lens). I am so sorry to hear it happened to you! One Austin photog I met had that happen and he used pliers to grab the filter and unscrew it and his lens was ok. Maybe that can work for you? Maybe also a little WD-40 or maybe that generic 3-in-1 oil to lube it up first? I really don't know any great ways to get that off.

    That so so so sucks. I hope it ends up being ok. I don't suppose you have homeowner's or renter's insurance and have the camera and lens on it. I don't suppose your roommate has oodles of money or is offering to help you handle the cost of replacement.

    D:

  • Jake!Jake! Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    altmann wrote: »
    So...

    My roommate informed me he dropped my Camera, with my 17-40 F/4 L on it, which was like $700. My pride and joy.

    The UV filter is shattered, and won't come off the camera. I am not sure how to tell if the lens itself is still good. Any ideas? I'm fucking freaking out here.

    L's are built like a brick shithouse. I say this, primarily to use the word though. I've dropped my 24-105mm, and it works fine, although from the sound of it, yours took a harder tumble.

    Also, personally I'd still keep a UV filter on there, even if you have to saw it off later, it's still better to have some protection for the glass.

    ps. I'm mad busy like long, sorry for lack of commenting

  • [GHSC]Ryctor[GHSC]Ryctor Registered User
    edited December 2008
    A few new shots from 2 assignments back in October


    Marlee
    1zmjm80.jpg


    Alcorn State Football
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    You'd be surprised the amount of damage a hauler can do in the right hands ~ Istvaan Shogaatsu
  • muninnmuninn Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Ok, i might have asked this question before, but I have been searching for an answer everywhere and I just cant find it. Basically, I adore how preview on a mac renders my NEF files, but for the love of god, I cant replicate it in lightroom. Anyone has any tips?

  • needOpticneedOptic Registered User
    edited December 2008
    A few new shots from 2 assignments back in October


    Marlee
    1zmjm80.jpg


    Alcorn State Football
    1jb5mt.jpg

    I like the tilt in Marlee. Can we see bigger?

  • altmannaltmann Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    OK lens is fine so whew. took it to the local camera shop with a repair center, guy got the filter off, said the lens was fine and i got a new filter.

    Also, just thought this would be useful to some of you who shoot RAW, it's a native RAW thumbnailer/viewer for windows, so your raw files are basically treated and as easy to look at as JPEG files:

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=D48E808E-B10D-4CE4-A141-5866FD4A3286&displaylang=en

    My Flickr. My Fruitfucker computer and my Annarchy computer. See my PAX 2006/07/08 Flickr sets

    "Look at that subtle off-white coloring, the tasteful thickness of it... Oh my God, it even has a watermark."
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