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What is your opinion of pornography?
Sol Invictus
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I'd be interested in knowing where everyone stands on the subject of pornography. It would seem that if and whenever someone makes a post on say, reddit or digg, about how pornography is 'bad', it isn't long before other individuals with opposing viewpoints decide to chime in with pure, unabated rage about said individual's supposed conservatism or 'backwards' mentality regarding pornography and argue that it is the choice of the woman (it is, usually unless they were forced into it by pimps, bad boyfriends or come from a third world country), and how it's empowering to some. Could it be regarded as art, as some argue? Granted, the person who originally makes the anti-porn stance could well be a feminist, but is painted in the same light as George W. Bush and his 'War on Porn' back in 2005.
I'd be curious as to where people stand on the issue because I myself have not decided if pornography is a 'bad thing' or a 'good thing' and I'd like to hear some opinions on the matter before I make up my own mind on the subject.
I'd be curious as to where people stand on the issue because I myself have not decided if pornography is a 'bad thing' or a 'good thing' and I'd like to hear some opinions on the matter before I make up my own mind on the subject.
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More acceptance and better regulation of the industry and sex workers in general would help to eliminate a lot of the problems.
So goes Carlin and prostitution: "Selling is legal. Fucking is legal. Why isn't selling fucking, legal?" Pornography is ultimately a kind of prostitution I suppose, except you don't get anything but to watch. Most people don't think there's anything wrong with sex, so masturbation/pornography and the like should not be as greatly looked down upon as it is.
I'd say it can be art, insofar as acting can be an art, though there is also some photography that is fantastically done with porno, too.
but my boyfriend on the other hand, does not like porn at all. last time i mentioned it he mentioned something about how men get addicted to porn and then objectify women or something. i was too busy taking picutres of porn newspaper boxes that amused me to pay attention. He didn't want me to buy one
Basically porn makes the world go around.
You should read this book. Regulation is tricky cultural and politcal minefield.
but they're listening to every word I say
Wow.
How long will you be visiting our dimension before you return to your Bizarro Universe? And do nerds beat up jocks there? :P
That entire industry is pretty absurd. My friend told me he once fingered a stripper and her response was to take his hand and place it on her breasts instead, while telling him off.
I read a feature on collegehumor where a guy got to go visit a porn set. I forgot the exact words, but basically the actress was so annoying (as in didn't stop talking loudly) and everyone ignored her unless it was to give her directions on how to fuck.
Pshh. I ran a leech porn server in my college days. I still have half a terabyte archived in a ginormous zip file. Don't pop it open much these days but it's there just in case.
EDIT: and make sure you have an iron stomach if you run a server like that. some of the shit people upload is really nasty
O_O
I don't know any girls that don't watch porn. so what universe are you from?
The one where the women don't feel comfortable enough to tell him the truth. It's the same one where no one admits they masturbate.
EDIT: I also prefer the amateur stuff. Most of those you can tell they are really into it and are doing it for the fun of it
Dude, you coulda gone to jail for the kiddy porn.
but they're listening to every word I say
Umm... no?
Porn preys on women, and disempowers them.
I pretty much agree with this.
A lot of these discussions get conflated... some people end up talking about all possible porn that could ever exist (ie., the Platonic form of porn) and some people end up talking about porn as it currently is. Those are two very different things.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Plus a large helping of horrible acting, writing, and silicone.
that is a sad sad universe.
I think Shadowen needs a hug.
I equate a lot of the entertainment industry to acting in the same manner. Whenever I see Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, or even windbags on celebrity reality shows to being about as stupid; and yet they get paid piles more money basically because their industry is respected more. The only difference between Britney Spears in a music video and Aria Giovanni boning a chick is that one is a cocktease and the other doesn't tease.
To my knowledge, porn actresses do not make a lot of money, unless they're highly influential persons like Jenna Jameson who run their own companies. Those who appear in a few videos don't make a lot, and they basically have to do hundreds of videos if they want to make a lot of money. The directors, publishers and distributors take the large bulk of the profits and there is no union for porn actors to demand higher salaries. Anyone complaining is usually just fired because there are so many new people who want the job.
There have been scandals with internet websites like SuicideGirls, in the past, where models were given strict contracts that essentially took away their right to being photographed by magazines or outlets other than SG, and SG also sold their photos to other websites (e.g. free porn sites) without giving them the profits. There was also mention of how some of them were "encouraged" to participate in BDSM public exhibitions and things like that if they were expected to be called up again for a new contract. A model who doesn't play by their rules wouldn't have her contract renewed.
That's his universe not mine lol. I live in the godless liberal bay area where no one cares if you masturbate or like porn
Some porn makes my wee-wee confused, but doesn't mind what other wee-wee's get off on.
Some porn makes my wee-wee sad and droopy because it is blatantly sadistic in nature or extremely exploitative and harmful to either the actors or even maybe society as a whole.
Some porn makes my wee-wee want to ban that type of porn. There is very little that fits into this category most wee-wee's would probably disagree with me on.
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Sorry, when talking to KevinNash, it's important to disreguard subtlety and shades of gray.
However, the industry is, by definition, exploitative. Both to men and women. The problem is, somehow, people got convinced that fucking for money and an audience was empowering, and suddenly the porn industry became some kind of feminist icon.
You know it when you see it, and all that?
Goddamn, I want to sig this whole post.
The Head Dick will call the meetings to order by banging his cock like a gavel.
I think I saw a porno that started out this way...
Mate.
A girl is allowed to tease you. And you are not allowed to immediately demand sex because of it and expect it to happen. You are not ruled by your goddam cock.
I know world is scary right.
Jesus christ this sentence is pathetic, not because you are stupid, but because of how you think it's a reasonable thing to say.
I fail to see how people videotaping themselves having sex and possible uploading it to the internet is disempowering to women.
How so?
but they're listening to every word I say
In other news, Maxim Magazine has just been presented the Susan B. Anthony Award by Gloria Allred.
Your honor, I did not commit rape cause she was being a cocktease!