Our new Indie Games subforum is now open for business in G&T. Go and check it out, you might land a code for a free game. If you're developing an indie game and want to post about it,
follow these directions. If you don't, he'll break your legs! Hahaha! Seriously though.
Our rules have been updated and given
their own forum. Go and look at them! They are nice, and there may be new ones that you didn't know about! Hooray for rules! Hooray for The System! Hooray for Conforming!
The Dark Spire [DS] - out now! buy it!
Posts
Is there endgame stuff?
I just gotta figure it out.
steam-taliosfalcon
XBL-AdeptPenguin
...and then promptly did an about face, since I was almost out of all of my spell points.
1.) Congratulations.
2.) How many floors are there and how long did it take you to play through this (hopefully) epic journey?
My game clock was a little over 33 hours when I finished it, though apparently there is still some more stuff to do.
Couple quest questions:
Where the proof of killing the grave robbers? I've explored as much of the basement as I can and I've killed a hundred grave robbers. I found the secret door and the secret room with a guy who doesn't want to talk to me, and the blizzard crystal, but no proof of dead grave robbers.
As for the grave robbers, the encounter you're looking for is actually hidden on the first floor. Poor wording, I know.
They're not really hard to find either if you explore every room.
Thank you so much again. Holding A has saved my life.
And bookmark added. Be back in a few weeks with some whining
XBL |Steam | PSN | last.fm
steam-taliosfalcon
XBL-AdeptPenguin
It was the weapon, which I just figured out. Is there any way to tell which weapons are incompatible? Like in the shop, does the down arrow mean that it can't be equipped, or that it can be but it's incompatible and will break some abilities?
XBL |Steam | PSN | last.fm
steam-taliosfalcon
XBL-AdeptPenguin
Just got it today and I think I'll start with one of each basic class, which seems very old school-ish, even though I'm sure either melee or magic will turn out to be superior later on, as is often the case.
I wasn't expecting it to come with a soundtrack.
'Get your fucking finger on the wookie'
The soundtrack seems to be a standard feature for any Atlus game these days. I really like the 8-bit songs.
Anyway, I'm using 1 of each class, and it's working really well. You pretty much need a warrior, to take damage (or rather, avoid damage), a thief for picking locks and disarming traps, a priest for healing, and a mage for... well, I guess a mage isn't strictly necessary, but they're incredibly convenient.
I wouldn't worry about magic or melee becoming superior, magic is incredibly limited and without a warrior your party will be wiped out after 2 encounters. But magic is also very much necessary, healing with a priest is the only way to survive long-term exploration and mages make it possible to win the harder fights.
Im copying and pasting from a game faqs post here.
Str 13, Int 13, Vit 13, Dex 9, CHA 13
Level 10 Warrior, Level 10 Priest, Siege Warfare skill (req Cha 13).
Ninja:
Str 13, Int 13, Vit 11, Dex 13
Level 10 Warrior, Level 10 Thief, Tree Climbing skill
Samurai:
Str 13, Int 11, Vit 13, Dex 8
Level 10 Warrior, Level 10 Mage, Healthy Living skill (possibly plus one other)
Ranger:
Str 11, Int 13, Vit 13, Dex 13
Level 10 Thief, Level 10 Priest, Acrobatics skill, (two others Babelfish couldn't translate?)
Wizard:
Str 13, Int 13, Vit 9, Dex 12
Level 10 Thief, Level 13 Mage, Astrology skill (Mage 13/Int 13)
Druid:
Str 9, Int 13, Vit 9, Dex 13
Level 10 Mage, Level 10 Priest, Ancient Languages skill, Ecology skill (botany?)
Even though you need those stats and skills you also need to complete some quests to unlock the actual classes, then apparently you can buy the class for 10k EP and start using it.
This stuff is translated from the japanese wiki, so theres some gaps there, but this should cover most of it.
'Get your fucking finger on the wookie'
PA D3 Battletags Form
PA D3 Battletags List
XBL |Steam | PSN | last.fm
Yep, Angel Wing, sixth domain or so priest spell.
It's a very time consuming game, and some of the requirements for tier two classes aren't obvious, so it would annoy me severely to have played for X number of hours only to find out that I had shot myself in the foot from the get go.
Different strokes, etc.
'Get your fucking finger on the wookie'
I'm around L12, working my way through Floor 5 (which is really tough compared to the previous floors). Got to find them killer bunnies. Unlocked Druid, and am eager to get my Samurai, Ninja and Paladin unlocked.
This game is a real throwback in terms of handholding and clues and such. Modern games tend to have puzzles that make a lot more sense, whereas the old-school games like Wizardry or Might and Magic tended to have these sorts of puzzles that were almost random. Need sand? Try <using> a rose on a fiery well six floors away and then crawling into the well to retrieve an hourglass. This isn't even a "special upgrade" quest like the ultimate weapon quests in FF - this is just a run-of-the-mill game progression quest.
Playing these games as a kid, the only way to progress was to make friends with every other kid who had the game and compare notes because otherwise you weren't going anywhere. Since the game is so new, people on message boards seem to still be trying to figure stuff out, and it's, to me, a lot like being back in third grade and trying to puzzle out a new game.
I understand that this kind of playstyle is probably no fun to modern gamers, but for us old-timers it's like crack. Personally, I find the modern FF games with their ridiculously country-intuitive secrets (breed chickens in a specific way to get a weapon upgrade!) more frustrating and requiring of walkthroughs.
Druid definitely does not require Ecology or Botany. I can't speak to the others but apparently many of the other requirements are wrong as well.
'Get your fucking finger on the wookie'
edit: I can confirm that Ninja requires 13 INT though. That was kind of a surprise.
Also, Paladin does not require CHA 13. My paladin has CHA 12, and the requirement may be lower than that.
'Get your fucking finger on the wookie'
So, on to my actual question, how does this game compare to EO2? Difficulty/classes/etc. Seems like there is general positive view on this thread. I'm thinking about picking this up in the near future.
George R. R. Martin is not your bitch. ~ Neil Gaiman