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ATTN MODS: Move to D&D? Sorry. Time Warner Cable pulls Viacom Stations at midnight
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Time Warner, once again, is refusing to pay for stations, so you just won't get them.
As of midnight tonight, I'll have no more Colbert and Stewart.
I'm about to call and cancel my cable, and thought others who have Time Warner, or just others who want to discuss how cable TV and such operate here in the US would like to weigh in.
In Syracuse, you either have Time Warner or you have Direct TV. Thats you're only options. Time Warner, REPEATEDLY has been involved in stuff like this, where they get into pissing matches with companies over how much they charge, and we lose stations.
The last major one I recall is when Time Warner refused to carry the new NFL Network, because the NFL wouldn't give it to them free. Therefore, we miss a ton of great football games every year, and a lot of major ones the NFL Network grabs. They've pulled this shit so many damn times, and even though I dont watch any of those stations regularly (Pallidum or whatever, the HD Music channel is great though), I'm done with them.
We had a guy from Consumer Reports come to Syracuse once because someone who lives here wrote him a letter asking him if Time Warner is as bad as well perceive it to be. Consumer Reports said that the value Time Warner Cable customers in Syracuse get for their money is one of the worst he's seen in the entire nation.
Because they're the only option (I rent a house, I don't want to sign up for Direct TV because I don't know how long Ill be here), I guess I'll be resorting to Hulu and stuff - along with just standard, over the air channels. I get my internet through Time Warner too - but I'll call Verizon today and set up FiOS. They're just a terrible company.
The days of a la carte cable can't come soon enough.
As of midnight tonight, I'll have no more Colbert and Stewart.
I'm about to call and cancel my cable, and thought others who have Time Warner, or just others who want to discuss how cable TV and such operate here in the US would like to weigh in.
In Syracuse, you either have Time Warner or you have Direct TV. Thats you're only options. Time Warner, REPEATEDLY has been involved in stuff like this, where they get into pissing matches with companies over how much they charge, and we lose stations.
The last major one I recall is when Time Warner refused to carry the new NFL Network, because the NFL wouldn't give it to them free. Therefore, we miss a ton of great football games every year, and a lot of major ones the NFL Network grabs. They've pulled this shit so many damn times, and even though I dont watch any of those stations regularly (Pallidum or whatever, the HD Music channel is great though), I'm done with them.
We had a guy from Consumer Reports come to Syracuse once because someone who lives here wrote him a letter asking him if Time Warner is as bad as well perceive it to be. Consumer Reports said that the value Time Warner Cable customers in Syracuse get for their money is one of the worst he's seen in the entire nation.
Because they're the only option (I rent a house, I don't want to sign up for Direct TV because I don't know how long Ill be here), I guess I'll be resorting to Hulu and stuff - along with just standard, over the air channels. I get my internet through Time Warner too - but I'll call Verizon today and set up FiOS. They're just a terrible company.
The days of a la carte cable can't come soon enough.
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Good luck switching to the dish, i hope you can get as many people as you can to switch with you. See if you can maybe get fios tv.
Then again they're trying to kill net neutrality and I might just have to move to another nation that is less fuck up.
You can move whereever you want, but they'll still be hosted in the US, and you probably won't be able to get to their services from another country anyway.
I don't know who to side with on this one. Viacom are asses because they want to raise my bill and charge more for stations. On the other hand, if they believe that their services are worth more I suppose they are entitled to do that.
Time Warner are asses because I already hate them with a passion. They are trying to sound like white knights, defenders of the customers and their ever battle to keep our bill down. Yet, I pay ~$120 monthly for internet and cable (basic packages for both, an extra $10/mo for an extra box, and a shitty internet connection of 5mb max that goes down for days at least once every three months). I doubt i'd even notice an extra 23cents a month, if Time Warner was to up our prices because of it.
Though it would have been pretty damn nice if they would have warned us a little bit before the day before it is suppose to happen.
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As far as who to side with....
I can understand a bit of why Verizon is wanting their fees raised: And this part doesn't particularly endear me to Time Warner either: (Why the fuck would a cable company get any share in the ad revenue for websites showing shows they have nothing to do with the production of?)
On the other hand, another version of the AP article has this fantastic detail:
So basically, both sides are being petulant assholes and the people stuck with Time Warner are stuck in the crossfire.
The popups at Colbertnation/Dailyshow read
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That is some bullshit right there. I hate it when advertisers try to appeal to children who are ignorant about the situation to make their parents lives more difficult. That's just dirty.
That's running right now here too, I fucking hate time warner so much. SO MUCH.
Anyway, I don't see how the solution for this can't be "let the people decide for themselves on a case-by-case basis!!" unless one of the companies is too paranoid about losing money doing something like that...
I never asked for this!
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Wait, how are they losing online shows? The internet is the internet.
Nope. Just Time Warner customers.
Once you get down into the details it's really hard to be sympathetic to either side.
I'm sympathetic to the cable company.
only because viacom are being mighty mighty cockfags who are using Dora and Spongebob in advertisements that basically say " [Cable Company] Is taking [Spongebob/Dora] off the air TONIGHT " to get kids crying to mommy and daddy to manipulate them into supporting Viacom over the cable company.
That kinda manipulation and using of kids is a bullshit move on Via and I hope they get raped for it
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No, it's simply Viacom using as many avenues as possible to get the word out to the people that may be affected.
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Goddammit Time Warner.
Though both sides are assholes.
I pretty much agree. I hate TimeWarner, and if I wasn't locked into them for decent internet I wouldn't be using them at all. That said, Viacom has achieved superior dickbaggery here with that ad campaign.
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I think I see what ad they're talking about, but that's not how it's worded. Unless there are multiples of the same thing with Dora, this is the only one I've seen.
I wonder if they even have the permission to use those characters in this manner.
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Considering Viacom probably owns them outright, I'd say yes.
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Hell - why can't they say "If you'd like these Viacom stations, it's going to be 23 cents a month extra."
They can't because they will make NO money off that. EVERYONE would do it. Everyone with TW Cable would pay a QUARTER for the Daily Show, and Nickeloden for the kids. But TW needs to make it look like they're protecting us, so that when they do finally cave (I can't see how they'll survive if they DONT), they can say "We had to increase your bill $20, because Viacom is charging more and we have to recoup the cost it took to fight them. You should have just sided with us."
Im very biased in my thinking, but only because Time Warner has done nothing but screwed me time and time again on every single service they have, because up until about 6 months ago, it was either Time Warner for your internet, or NetZero and free AOL discs. They knew they had the market cornered, and the fucked over everyone they could.
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I said 'Ive already paid that when I paid my first months bill'
'yes i see here where you may have already paid that'
MAY have? Fuckers. Then the installation guy tried to get me to cut another $60 check. They kept trying to tack on $5 here and there on various bills I had gotten in the past. Then the do this shit with the NFL network because NFL wants it to be offered with the basic cable package like ESPN but TW wants to charge customers for it. So you wont let us have a channel that is supposed to be free? Fuck you.
But overall viacom is being retarded for wanting more money when income all around is dropping just because their version of Murdoch is broke
Christ, that's evil.
Hilarious, but evil.
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Why does Time Warner think they are the only ones who are allowed to tack on ludicrous charges?
Anyways, in a month I'm headed back to Orlando, and was planning on getting Bright House again. This will suck, but I think they'll have something worked out by then. The article on their website is below:
This is a little complicated but not really. That cable company sells all that local advertising you see on there and some of the national stuff. If the show they paid for can no longer raise as much in advertising (because it's available for free online) that at least is a valid concern to the cable company.
I'm not really taking sides but that's not as outrageous as it sounds once you understand how the industry works.
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