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I've always wondered how .2 systems work - do you just use a splitter or do some receivers have 2 sub outputs?
As I understand it, you use a splitter.
I think you may need to set the subs to operate out of phase with one another so they don't cancel out, but I'm not positive.
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I suppose it's relative to a point, but I think such definitions should be applicable to the majority of people. There are, loosely speaking, three categories of speaker. There's the low-end stuff that people buy because they either don't care or just need something that works. There's the mid-range stuff for people who want quality and are willing to pay for it, but either aren't rich or not willing to get a second mortgage to cover their A/V rig. And there's the high-end.
People in the middle category there aren't going to pay over a thousand dollars per speaker. That's just not a reasonable definition.
Sort of like if someone was asking for an affordable sporty car, you wouldn't recommend an Aston Martin DB7 with the logic that it's considerably cheaper than a Bugatti Veyron.
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yeah, pretty much correct, although having helped out in a high end stereo store for a few years, you would be surprised what some people ended up walking out the door with, when all they came in for was a "low-cost" $600.00 set of speakers for their den. I almost always found that once someone sits down and takes 5 or 6 hours to really listen to 10+ pairs of speakers, they end up spending far more than they came in thinking they would, not always right away, but eventually the memories of how good it could sound get people thinking of upgrading. This of course mostly applied to the stereo side of things, most theater applications can be pretty damn good for relatively low cost.
there are a few ways of doing the sub thing, in my case the 2-15" subs are on each side of the theater screen, so both in the same phase, and i just use a homemade splitter.
If I started obsessing over speakers the way I obsess over displays, I would be in a lot of trouble. I think I'm going to stay far, far away from high end stereo stores
The audio lovers I know will pay that for a pair of midrange 3 way speakers.
Why is 750 euros a speaker midrange? 750 euros prolly leaves about 400 euros for the builder to put 3 quality drivers + crossover components into a nice finished enclosure and ship it out. If they are really using quality that's cutting it close.
People's "wait, what?" comes from the gap between those speakers and the junk you buy for 250 euros a 5.1 kit. That's not low-end, it's junk.
(The thing about true low-end speakers however, is that they offer less value for money than second hand hight end speakers. Good speakers do last years and years. If you're going to be spending less than 500 euros, I'd cobble together a 5.1 system from second hand speakers, then let your receiver setup figure out the crossovers.)
I mean, if you want to define anything less than $1500/speaker as "low-end", that's fine, just keep in mind that 99% of the population will be grossly confused by your definition.
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agreed, i think there should be a disclaimer that there is a huge difference in the definition of a low/mid/high end speaker for the general consumer vs audio-enthusiast/nut/freak.
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There seems to be some territoriality w/r/to brands between hi-fi shops (or vice versa). You may have different luck where you are but I couldn't find a place that had both paradigms and energys. To facilitate a side by side test I had to audition each from different stores (when you've chosen something you like I recommend doing this as your listening environment may not be as ideally suited to listening as in the store, what with 1000's of dollars they probably spent on sound-damping materials).
Can't help you choose in the receiver department, but just because some higher end editions in the same model line have issues doesn't mean the lower end editions will suffer the same fate. There can be considerable differences in the the components used between them. If user-generated reviews are what you're going by I'd only compare apples to apples. I'm considering a new receiver myself, right now the front runner for me is the Marantz 4003, but I've got a hard on for discrete power right now.
Next time I pick up a receiver, though, it'll likely be a Marantz.
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And actually, the remotes that came with higher-end Marantz receivers back then pretty much were Harmony-style remotes, with big ol' LCD screens and everything. But this one came with a shitty one.
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