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Clinton's was more of a deer in the headlights retarded (Obama being the headlights). Palin had that kind of "I post on the Politico.com forums" retardedness.
Had to fix that for ya.
Actually, economists also tend to skew Democrat, just not as much because the economic systems that actually work are classified as heterodox and go untaught.
I think Palin would prefer Crosswalk or 123.
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I mean, you could have watched nothing but Fox, and you'd still see a person who was so vastly inadequate for the job it was insulting. Her puff pieces were as unflattering as any "unfair" coverage.
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I think the standard line was "ah erm she has...*cough* executive experience"
You're right, media bias killed her. The fact that she dodged the media for so long, sounded like an idiot when she finally spoke, and was by all accounts a stupidly unready candidate for the job she was seeking had nothing to do with it. The cognitive dissonance is astounding. Anyone who says Obama didn't get grilled by the media is a fucking idiot. Palin got off easy relatively speaking, and not a small amount of the negative press she got was her own fault.
You've still failed to actually inject any solid evidence of all that media bias. Heck, the walking away impression of the MSNBC clip is that bias aside, the poor guy defending Palin had no substance. There was an entire segment where he just yells "did you ever see the clip!?" when asked about Palin's interview response of "I read all of them" when asked what news sources she reads. Given that it's an impossible answer and an obvious dodge, something other than "did you see the clip!?" as a defense would be appreciated. But apparently it's media bias to keep asking a question when it's being dodged.
Here's the flat out issue: Palin is projecting random blogger's sins onto anyone. See her letter to ADN where she demands to know why they keep running stories about Trigg's actual mother not being Palin. Then note that ADN has never run any such story, and the only related stories they've EVER run were stories about how stupid that accusation is.
She's randomly lashing out at anything with completely unsourced and factually incorrect information, and using that to create some gigantic straw man to attack instead of admitting the honest truth: the campaign was run horribly, and she was thrown into the media spotlight then taken away immediately, which gave reporters the only option of investigating her background, and then the choice was made to not actually answer shit about it. Then she wanders off an starts leading absolutely horrific rallies that even McCain starts flinching at.
Pregnant Daughter? She brought it up, the media simply continued covering the story beyond the photo ops. Remember, the RNC are the ones who dragged her fiance out to the convention as a prop and threw him into the mainstream.
Highschool Dropout status of fiance? No investigation here, he was thrown to the media for a feelgood interview and told them he'd dropped out. Oh, and Palin bitches out the ADN for this, too. Apparently later he enrolled in correspondence courses. Which means prior reporting on his status at the time is totally inappropriate. Or something.
Her foreign policy? She's the one who pulled out that amazing shit about russia, the news just looked into it and found that her claims of trade delegations and such were bullshit.
She lied, repeatedly, to the media. They did their jobs and went "uh, that's objectively not true." They covered her ongoing investigations, because they were ongoing investigations. They covered everythinig the campaign trotted out to be a media lightning rod (trigg, bristol, the fiance)
The mismanagement here was that the McCain campaign thought that she could hold their own and suddenly backpedaled HARD and started attacking the media for having the audacity of covering a vice presidential candidate.
If you can't sound like a reasonably competent adult in an interview with Charlie Gibson, you should probably be wearing a helmet at all times.
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Man, you need to either back up the shit you say in this thread or deal with the fact that you're wrong and stop making this pithy little quips trying to piss people off.
Unless you are just a troll.
Had to fix that for you, buddy.
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Yes, Palin is a retard, and she would like to thank the media bias for being soft on her for so long.
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That doesn't look like much of a post, but it's all I had left after I deleted all the anger. :lol:
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God damned lie-beral media. At least Rush Limbaugh tells it straight.
Combined with McCain's "fundamentals of our economy" lines the two really painted themselves as not even paying attention to the news.
I think also she violated a crucial rule that many on the national stage follow - don't read the news about yourself! I think she read all this crap on these ridiculous blogs (the rumor about how Trig was the daughter's baby is sick in my mind) and really let it get to her personally.
The reality is though that the McCain campaign is totally to blame for their lack of plan for handling her. Had they come out with a serious idea of what the hell she was there for and defined it, the media couldn't have had such a field day asking her questions about shit she had no clue about. Instead they just threw her out there like "hey look, we picked Sarah Palin!!! Aren't we mavericky?" and then the media had to figure out why they had picked her.
What happened was they both got blindsided by journalists doing journalism, and were outraged when they were called on to defend statements they'd made earlier. Their media teams were absolutely horrible, and trying to run with the loudest guy in the room method of making a point.
None of that has anything to do with Palin, it just has to do with the basic evolution of information flow, and the long term viability of saying different shit to different groups of people, or acting like you've never said something you're on record as saying.
The anti pork crusader bit was great political theatre until anyone actually researched it. The split camera at the town hall was Brutal image wise, as was the whole "McCain left and our live feed shows Obama still palling it up with all the people who showed up" thing. Image wise, there was no contest. One campaign had an image of professionalism and competence, the other looked like a high school class trying to run the LHC. One had a focused message, the other changed it's daily talking points multiple times per day, and rebranded it's slogan so quickly that none could stick.
It was an object lesson in message control, and if you think the media was going easy on Obama, you're nuts. The media was avoiding McCain's campaign criticisms until the convention, at which point Palin was a hot topic and amazing.. then she was obviously in over her head, and then the media finally felt okay with pointing out that they'd been lying in McCain's favor for months. That he HAD no ground game, and those were staged shots of his phone banking operations, and the rest of the room was empty. That he had factional warfare going on internally and didn't even like his VP pick. Essentially the media stopped giving McCain a free ride. Which is far, FAR different than being biased in Obama's favor and picking on poor little Palin.
No, the McCain campaign had a plan for the roll-out, it jus wasn't tailored for Palin. The VP speech for the RNC (Speaking of, remember when Palin falsely claimed that the teleprompters went out and she just winged it? Good times.) was written for a masculine voice and had referred to the speaker in male terms that had to be changed. It was just the boilerplate roll out that you almost always do. Only then they realized that she wasn't any good at talking to the press or 'answering questions' so they stopped any press conference from occurring, which is unprecedented for a Vice Presidential candidate, and pushed her on Gibson and Couric rather than the more difficult sunday circuit shows.
you are such a fucking troll. The Media was biased against Palin the same way they were biased against Brittany Spears. Because they both were an endless roller coaster of fuckups and idiocy that you couldn't look away from. Palin was three months of that Ms. Teen contestants "Maps" answer.
This was Palin. For like, three freaking months. Everyday. Even her SPEECH patterns were the same, such as, it is been being.
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I have to admit, the campaign made me consider the Clinton campaign's spin of "It's fine if we bring up Ayers and Wright, because that way it can't be used in the general," might have actually been right. It became obvious pretty quickly that it was the Republican's only talking point, and it never made a blip.
I agree. Clinton doing her best to beat Obama in the primaries helped America to become far more familiar with the "black kid with the funny name" than it would have otherwise. In the end, her hubris probably helped engender sympathy with Obama amongst people who were just tired of the whole thing.
I think any Palin apologists (not talking to Moniker, of course) need to remember that even McCain had a pretty transparent disgust for her by the time the campaign was over with. Not only did she say and do stupid shit - like the constant Obama/Ayers comparisons - she was actually doing so against the wishes of the presidential campaign she was involved in. Palin's foolish behavior was no one's fault but her own - she was even told not to do it by her bosses. Trying to blame the media for allowing the American public to see how stupid she was is absurd. When the stuff coming out of your mouth sounds like this:
How exactly is the news media supposed to report that in a favorable light? Not showing Palin for the inexperienced, incompetent and corrupt little Caesar she was would have been not only a shirking of their responsibilities as journalists, but - even worse - actually put the country at risk of electing someone who was obviously and dangerously unqualified for the position she was seeking. There was a very distinct possibility that Sarah Palin could have been the most powerful individual in the world (contingent only upon the health of a 72-year-old multiple cancer survivor and 5-year prisoner-of-war). If that thought doesn't give people chills, I don't know what will.
Once the cat was out of the bag, though, there wasn't much the McCain campaign could do besides scream liberal media!! and hope it sunk in (apparently a tactic which is still going on among their supporters, despite the election having ended two months ago). It was a lame tactic and they knew it - few candidates get more favorable press than pre-Palin McCain did. He'd been haranguing the press for years, knew a lot of them personally, the whole bit. But he had to side with her instead of his friends in the media, mostly because she was his running mate and also because the base was crazy about her.
You could tell in some of their joint interviews McCain was kind of pissed at having to defend some of her more ridiculous statements. By then he knew he'd fucked up big time, but he had no choice but to stick with it. I can't imagine how it must have sucked - knowing that she was destroying any credibility he had outside Limbaugh-land, having to eat shit pies every day and act like he thought she was the best woman for the job. If he'd picked up Joe Lieberman no doubt he would have lost, but he could at least have lost with a little bit of pride intact.
Because 9% think it's too high, and shouldn't be cut! 9% of respondents could not fully
get their arms around the question. There should be another box you can check for, "I
have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Please, God, don't ask for my input."
So she refused to concede the nomination for a week after having lost because...?
The long slog of a primary proved beneficial, but that was an unintended consequence.
I could almost see a case being made for anti-Palin bias in the media. I'm willing to bet, though, that it was largely due to the fact that even dumbshit journalists couldn't contain their contempt for her stupidity. This is even despite their collective hard-on for Veteran McCain.
Man, looking back, we had one hell of an election this year.
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Thats why she had a meeting with her staff the day of the DNC to plan for her run in 2012. I have not problem believing Clinton spent all that time trying to snatch her victory.
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Palin, though, if she keeps on the way she is now (which I doubt because seriously, she's from fucking Alaska), she'll continue to be in the press and a favorite of the base, but will be lucky to make it out of the GOP primary alive in 2012. I'm imagining the kneecapping she's going to have to weather, and I'll bet it makes the Clinton dogpile of the early Dem campaign seem like a sleepover pillow fight. If she had any sense, she'd go back to Alaska, learn how to be an effective executive, clear up all of the controversies, and hire someone to tutor her on foreign and domestic policy for the next four years.
I think it became harder for them when Palin went all out anti media, and started having incidents of violence against reporters at her public rallies.
She declared war on the MSM. At some point, they're going to just air her stupidity in full and let it stand.
Well, first she has to win reelection in 2010. No one's going to get anywhere for the Presidency after having lost a statewide race. Which is why Allen wasn't in the running this time 'round.
then she'll disappear forever
I would personally rather see her as majority leader than Reid, but that's probably not seeing much.
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She'd probably be a better majority leader than Reid, too. D:
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I'd rather he come back and actually try and be accountable for the shit he says.
But that works too.
Why have accountability when you can just argue that the game is rigged, man?