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Moreover Feral isn't saying "Fill out 72 pages in triplicate" he's saying Driver's license apps would have a box on them that says "I do not want my organs taken after I die if I check this box, otherwise go ahead."
I can deal with having to check a box every 9 years or so if it means even one more person lives who wouldn't.
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Whoa, every 9 years?
And here I thought he was just talking about a one time opt-out detail.
Fuck that.
Do you believe in a bodily resurrection or something and that you'll find yourself in Heaven without a kidney? Because "ewwww" as a reason to let somebody die is pretty shitty.
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So if people really have a religious objection, their family can dissent on your behalf after death.
But if nobody cares, then nobody cares.
You honestly believe people have no right to keep their organs when they die?
Tell me, is the only reason you and Feral allow the "opt-out" part of this system so it could have a better chance of passing through congress? Would you really support a system that lets NO ONE opt-out at all if you could?
That's not what he's arguing. Talk about things the rest of the thread is talking about, kthnx.
And no, I would never force people to donate their organs if they really didn't want to simply as a matter of respect. I do think that if you have that strong an opinion that forcing you to read and then check a box is not an unreasonable request.
t Feral, you're probably right but if this is bundled in with your first "adult" interaction with the government (getting a drivers license) I'd expect a lot of teenage douchebags to opt out and never reconsider.
I suppose the family proviso would be sensible in an opt-out system. It pisses me off that we already have the same thing in our current opt-in system. Fucking families that have no respect for members wishes.
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Yeah that's true.
I think I need to a look a little closer at how other countries do it. I understand that Australia is an opt-out system...
...and The Cat came back!
Cat, do you know how it works in Aussieland?
And yet, if you choose to take people's organs when they haven't made their wishes clear, you are basically doing exactly that, forcing the organs to be taken.
Look man, I don't doubt that your system would save more lives. But sometimes, it's just not about saving lives.
Of course not. You can keep all the organs you can carry!
I expect adults to take responsibility for their actions and lack of action, yes. I also expect them to make those wishes they fervently want honored known, in the appropriate manner, when explicitly asked.
t Feral: ARGH, that song is now in my head!
Edit: To be perfectly clear I am envisioning a system where every adult would, at some point, have had a piece of paper with the choice outlined above on it and that the default would be donation. I suggest using Driver's licenses simply because of how ubiquitous they are. If you never choose to drive (or whatever this is linked to) I would find acceptable having their organs verboten barring other information as to their wishes.
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I do, because I want my SHADOWRUN dammit.
Where my fucking wired reflexes?
I'd be willing to donate my organs. But I'd demand my naughty bits be given mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.
"Stop harvesting me with your eyes!"
Man, that line has already been quoted like ten times. I know it.
Second can we do it Babylon 5 style and whomever stays in the longest gets the kids? Will you follow me into pit of scorpions.
Third it sucks, poor bastard. As previously stated had he let the bitch die he would be better offer.
Fourth money is redeemed for goods and services. Gifts are not redeemed for goods and services.
Fifth rule, and this is the important one. I mean really, really freaking important. Ready? When dealing with women, always, always, 100% of the time, without exception get payment in advance.
If he was expecting her to spend the rest of his life with him in exchange for the kidney, then he damn sure should have made her spend the rest of her (admittedly short) life with him before he donated the thing. Because once you "give as a gift" woman are no longer obligated to give you anything they promised in exchange for "gifts".
Stop posting, for the love of god.
Saving her life because of selfish doofery falls somewhere just behind that.
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And anyway, how does he expect to get this thing back? Wouldn't that kill her?
They're basically both terrible people.