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WH40K: Tonight we're gonna party like it's m40.999 (New Ig on page 66)

Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against the Irish)Registered User regular
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Warhammer 40k is a futuristic tabletop strategy game created by GamesWorkshop that pits multiple races and factions against each other for control of the galaxy. The wiki article can be found here.

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The Warhammer 40,000 game world is most readily characterized as a gothic science-fantasy setting. The central and most popular elements of the Warhammer 40,000 universe are the Space Marines, anachronistic combinations of sci-fi super-soldiers and fantasy knights and the finest warriors of the Imperium of Mankind, a dystopian and degenerate galaxy-spanning empire.

The physical setting of this story is the Materium, with all action here in the Milky Way Galaxy. Much of this is controlled by The Imperium of Man, though it is not the only galactic power. Other races include the Orks, a greenskinned trollike race, and the Eldar, the former rulers of a great empire. A dynamic, galaxy-spanning story line is possible because of a separate plane of existence, the Immaterium or "Warp." The Warp is described as a realm of thought, where desires and emotions can take physical form, and with currents and eddies that make traveling vast interstellar distances difficult, yet possible. As this is a realm of thought, a coalescence yields an often sinister warp entity. The strongest of these entities are the Chaos Gods, Khorne (a god of rage, bloodshed, and war), Nurgle (a god of despair, decay and pestilitic disease), Tzeentch (a god of change, deception, scheming, Sorcery, and, oddly enough, hope) and Slaanesh (a god of pleasure, pain, depravity, pride and decadence).

The Gods of Chaos are the result of the strongest impulses in the living souls of the universe's inhabitants. Their cults have a dynamic and antagonistic relationship. Khorne opposes Slaanesh, while Nurgle opposes Tzeentch. Nurgle is the personification of powerlessness, Tzeentch personifies power, Khorne personifies duty and rage, and Slaanesh personifies the epicurean or the sensual. These four powers are not the only entities in the Warp, but they are the greatest and most powerful. It is said, in the background to Warhammer 40,000, that the nature of the Warp is beyond human comprehension and is truly unknowable.
Welcome to Warhammer 40,000
The 41st Millennium is a savage age where Mankind battles for survival in a galaxy riven by bloodshed and destruction. Humanity teeters on the brink of extinction, assailed on all sides by aliens, traitors and daemons, and only the superhuman strength of the Space Marines and the uncountable numbers of the Imperial Guard keep the slavering alien hordes from bringing total annihilation.

Warhammer 40,000, the tabletop battlegame of the far future, allows you to wage war with armies of Citadel miniatures across miniature battlefields in the ultimate contest of strategy and skill. Each player is a commander who must choose his finest warriors, decide upon cunning battle plans and strategies, and lead his army to victory or death. Games can vary in size from small skirmishes of just a few dozen models per side, to massive clashes with hundreds of miniatures.


So, what exactly is Warhammer 40,000?
Each player collects an army of Citadel miniatures then, using the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook as a guideline, they fight epic battles against their fellow generals. Dice (like you'd find in almost any board game) are used to determine success and failure: to decide whether a bolter shell hits its target, or whether a lascannon blasts through the armour of a tank. Each game is played, not on a regular 'board' but on a special gaming area where models are not confined to 'squares' but are free to move as their controller wishes. Because Warhammer 40,000 is not played on a set game board, tape measures or rulers are used to see how far a miniature can move - an agile Eldar jetbike can travel faster than a foot-slogging Imperial Guardsman after all.

That all might sound a little complicated, but a short game or two is all that is needed to grasp the basics. Seasoned commanders find that the rules become second nature, and they seldom need to refer to the rulebook at all.


The Warhammer 40,000 Hobby
There's more to Warhammer than just playing games. In fact Warhammer 40,000 is an exciting hobby in its own right. Many players enjoy painting their Citadel miniatures to amazing standards, lavishing extra detail and attention on their models to make their army extra special and unique. Likewise, while your chosen battlefield can be as simple as a bare table with few obstacles, many wargamers like to build modular tabletops as detailed and exciting as the ones you can see on the Games Workshop website.

Most hobbyists begin playing Warhammer 40,000 with a friend or two, honing their skills, and developing their army in regular battles, but the fun doesn't have to stop there. There are thousands of wargaming clubs around the world where players challenge each other to games of Warhammer 40,000 every week. Also, every Games Workshop store has its own gaming tables and boards. Most offer gaming nights for you to come and meet new Warhammer 40,000 generals, discuss painting, modelling and gaming tactics - and of course, do battle. For the really adventurous there are regular Warhammer 40,000 gaming events all over the world, run both by Games Workshop and by enthusiastic gaming clubs and societies. From competitive tournaments where hundreds of players battle to determine a champion, to campaign weekends where each battle forms part of an exciting storyline, there are Warhammer gaming events to suit every taste - all you need is an army of your own and the courage to do battle.

Getting Started
All miniatures wargames need a few basic things before you can get started. First and foremost is a collection of miniatures. Second a place to play. Thirdly, and just as importantly, are the rules for the game. Warhammer 40,000 has grown and developed over more than 20 years and the current rules are the best ever.

There are two ways that you can get to grips with the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook. It's available separately as a hardback volume - more than three hundred pages of glorious artwork, background and photography, as well as the rules themselves. This rulebook is the indispensable guide for hobbyists everywhere, it details the rich and colourful galaxy of Warhammer 40,000 and contains all the rules and instructions that you need to get started with your own games.

The second way to get your claws on the Warhammer 40,000 rules is with the Assault on Black Reach boxed game. This awesome game in a box contains two fledgling armies, the superhuman Space Marines and the brutal Orks - as well as scenery, dice, measuring sticks, a getting-started guide and a pocket sized rulebook. This book contains exactly the same rules as the larger, hardback rulebook - but misses out on some of the extra information contained in it (there's only so much you can cram into a box!)

The important thing to remember with both the hardback rulebook and the pocket sized rulebook is that the game is exactly the same - the rules are identical, it's just that the rulebook contains extra background on the Warhammer 40,000 universe and guidance on collecting and painting your armies.

Which rules set is for me?

In the end, the only person who can answer that question is you. People who are completely new to wargaming, and Warhammer 40,000 in particular, often appreciate the getting-started guide contained in the Assault on Black Reach boxed game, as well as the awesome collection of Citadel miniatures it contains! The boxed game contains everything you need to start playing. It's hard to argue with getting the complete package all at once.
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Veterans of the wargaming hobby, and players who already have experienced Warhammer 40,000 before, often choose to go for just the hardback rulebook - they understand the basics of wargaming and sometimes already have their own collections of Citadel miniatures, so they don't need introducing in quite the same way.

In the end, the most important factor is: which appeals to you. Most new Warhammer 40,000 players start with the Assault on Black Reach set to get their collection off the ground, and get themselves a copy of the hardback rulebook later - covering both bases.
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So, tell me about the rules.
Games of Warhammer 40,000 are traditionally fought for five - seven 'game turns'. In each 'game turn' each player gets a go. They can move, unleash devastating ranged attacks and fight with all of their models. The rulebook explains how to do each of these things, and once you've read over it once, it becomes remarkably simple to do. In no time you'll be blasting your enemy's warriors with battle cannons and bolter shells, and hacking them down with whirring chainswords!
Factions:
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- The Neverborn -
Chaos Daemons Lust, hate, despair, sorrow. All emotion has a reverbaeration within the warp, the worst, most bitterly felt, and the furtherest extreme becoming strong enough to persist, coalesce, and finally, become. It was from the darkest corners of the galaxy's hearts that Khorne - Lord Upon the Skullthrone, Tzeentch - The Changer of Ways, Nurgle - The Final Decay, and Slaneesh - The Feaster of Pain, sprang forth, and they await the time when the veil against the Warp wears thin, and their warriors, spawn, and offspring can pour through.

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- The Betrayers -
Chaos Space Marines At the very birth of the Imperium of Man, fully half of the Emperor's most trusted Legions turned against him in a bitter civil war. Brother fought brother, and Mankind drove itself to the very brink of extinction. Ten thousand years after their defeat, those same traitors still launch their Black Crusades from within the Eye of Terror, their dead hearts intent upon nothing less than the utter destruction of the Imperium and the death of its weakling Emperor.

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- The Hammer -
Daemonhunters The Imperium of Man is beset on all quarters by enemies hellbent on its destruction. However, some of the greatest threats imaginable originate not within this physical universe, but rather the one beyond. These are a foe that not even the mighty Space Marines are capable of standing against alone, and it was in the face of these that the Ordo Malleus, and their servants, the Grey Knights, were created.

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- The Lost-
Dark Eldar These spawn of unquiet dreams inhabit a realm called Commorragh, a place as darkly twisted as its rulers, from which these merciless pirates launch raids across the length and breadth of the galaxy. The purpose of these raids is not to conquer planets or protect territory but to cause mayhem, steal, pillage, and – most importantly of all – capture new victims to be taken back to Commorragh for endless torture.

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- The Dying -
Eldar An unimaginably ancient race who once ruled an empire spanning the galaxy. Then came the hideous time of the Fall, when the Eldar were consumed by their own decadence and nearly oblitereated to the last, the few survivors scattered across the stars. Though the Eldar are few in number, they continue to be one of the most technologically advanced races in the galaxy. This advantage is combined with the prescient abilities of their Farseers, who scry the future and guide their kin along the most favorable paths of fate.

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- The Dutiful -
Imperial Guard In the midst of genetically engineered super-beings, alien killing machines, warrior mystics, and technology that approaches sorcery in its sophistication, the Imperial Guard are mere mortals. Protected by little more than faith, they contend with the most terrifying threats the darkest corners of the galaxy vomits forth. As such it is easy to identify with these brave souls and to see in them the qualities of true heroes. Also: tanks tank lol

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- The Ancient -
Necrons Ancient beyond imagining, the Necrons are awakening from their 60-million-year dormancy to plague the living once more. Thousands of immortal, soulless warriors have risen from dusty stasis-tombs, their cold wills bent on harvesting the teeming species of the galaxy. Their miraculous technology was far in advance of any contemporary equivalent long before the Eldar, reckoned the oldest amongst the xenos races, had even begun their existence, and it is only that so few have awoken that they do not pose a greater threat in the current day.

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- The Beast -
Orks The most widespread and warlike race of aliens in the bloodstained galaxy of the 41st millennium. From the depths of the galactic core to the distant ghost-stars beyond the galactic rim, burgeoning Ork empires rise and fall. In terms of sheer numbers and planets, Orks occupy more of the galaxy than any other single race, and if they ever unified, they would crush all opposition the stood before them. However, the Orks' passion for violence is so unquenchable that they spend their entire lives embroiled in war, and will fight each other as readily as any other foe.

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- The Loyal -
Space Marines They are the most powerful and dreaded of all the human warriors in the galaxy. No longer strictly human, but superhuman, superior in all respects to mere men by a harsh regime of genetic modification, psycho-conditioning and rigorous training. Being few in number compared to the uncounted trillions of humanity, Space Marines are organized into small independent armies called Chapters. Their unswerving loyalty is to the Emperor of Mankind first, their Chapter second, and none other beyond that.

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- The Young -
Tau Empire Since their first contact with the Imperium in the 35th millennium, the Tau have risen from a hunter-gatherer society to a star-faring race in less than six thousand years. Absolute obedient to the command of the enigmatic ethereal caste, the Tau believe that now is their time. It is their race and their Empire that will bring unity to the stars, all races equal, and the Tau first among them. There is no foe their technology cannot overcome, no quandary their science cannot resolve, the stars and all that lies between to be joined beneath the aegis of the Greater Good.

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- The Devourer -
Tyranids Without a doubt the most alien race encountered by Humanity. They have been likened to galacticlocusts, remorselessly hungry and too numerous to stop. Tyranids are a nomadic, space-dwelling race that emerged from the void between galaxies into our own in search of new resources to consume. These hive fleets have discovered sustenance in abundance in the forms of the myriad species of the Milky Way galaxy, stripping planets of all bio-mass before moving on, leaving nothing but a ball of scoured rock in the wake of their titanic swarms. What's worse, no one seems able to halt, let alone reverse, the Tyranid tide as its tendrils bore ever deeper towards the heart of our galaxy.

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- The Faithful -
Witchhunters The darkness contained within the Imperium itself is a sinister and subtle threat. The heretic, mutant, and rogue psyker threaten humanity with an internal rot far more damaging than any xenos invasion. The Ordo Hereticus exists to seek and burn out this threat. Known as the Witch Hunters, these Inquisitors command the might of the Imperium – especially the Adepta Sororitas – in their hunt for the witch, the mutant, the heretic, the fallen cleric, and none is permitted to escape the cleansing fire of their wrath.
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Where can I buy this stuff online?
http://www.games-workshop.com/ - The main site. Not the cheapest place to get minis, but if you can't find it anywhere else...

http://www.forgeworld.com/ - Beautiful resin models to add spiff to any army. High detail, even higher cost, the place to go if you love your hobby, but hate your wallet.

http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk - Consistent discounts, extra discounts on 5+ 'army bundles', free international shipping, great selection.

http://www.chaosorc.com - Good discounts (particularly on large items), cheap shipping. patchy selection but carries lots of older products and non-GW stuff. Some items aren't clearly labeled differently from older versions, but they're a good alternative on specific items.

http://thewarstore.com/ - Excellent selection, good discounts, good service. 20% off normal prices, and an excellent selection of bits when you're just looking for a single piece in particular.

http://www.apocabitznow.com/ - Carries an excellent selection of bits, including metal and resin pieces, as well as selling GW kits at 20% off. Free shipping for orders over $75.

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Other places of Note:
http://belloflostsouls.org - A great 40k (and sometimes fantasy) rumor site. They also post articles on campaigning, modeling and home made rules.

http://www.warseer.com - Currently about the biggest GW-related forum on the net. Unfortunately, it has a horrible signal/noise ratio, but the rumors forums are frequently the first place to hear accurate news of upcoming products.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/ - Space Marines, and high fashion (not really)

http://www.the-waaagh.com
- Orks orks orks orks! Jobs a gud'un boss.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/ - They used to be cool. Kinda fallen on hard times but you do tend to get much more signal and much less noise over there.

http://www.the-warforge.com - Ein's modelling and converting site. Totally slipped this into the OP because I could.

http://www.bartertown.com/ - The place to go when looking for like-minded people with models for trade and sale. (I got a Forgeworld Warhound Titan for half-off from someone who needed to raise cash for a ring.)
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How do I mine haversack? Because you need a way to cart all your wonderful new toys around, here are a couple recommendations beyond what you can get from GW itself:

Sabol Army Transports A little expensive, but I use them exclusively, because of the quite reasonable international shipping price, and mostly for the fact that you can custom cut the foam trays to fit your models. Also available from the War Store.

Figures in Comfort A wide range of precut foam trays, and carrying cases for whatever your needs.
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Painting services: The hobby's dirty little secret, for people who have entire armies in venerable shades of pewter and gray, and want something else, but lack the time, ability, or faith in their own prowess to do it themselves (but still have plenty of money).

Blue Table Painting: Based in Utah, USA, these guys do good work for a reasonable price. They have quite a few videos up on youtube if you want to check out their work.

Painted Figs: Based in Sri Lanka. Just about the best $/painting quality ratio out there. They do excellent work at a very reasonable price. Shipping is pretty expensive from the USA, but for anyone closer to that side of the world (like Japan) even with the cost of getting your models there and back, the price can't be beat.

Game Fusion Studio: Based in California. They make and sell a large variety of terrain as well as offering mini painting services. Pricey, but they do some nice looking work.

The Warstore: Branching out into offering painted minis, as well as kits and bits.


Hobby Helpers:


Paints, tools, and hobby supplies:

Tower Hobbies: The best place for finding Tamiya paints and sprays in the U.S. outside of a well stocked local store.

Model Painters: Test out paint scheme templates without actually putting pigment to plastic.

Bolter & Chainsword's awesome multi-model painter.

Rare earth magnets:
Tiny, strong, a modeler's best friend for making swappable pieces.

In the U.S.: K&J Magnetics

In the UK: Power Magnet Store
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  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Stick a [40k] or something in the title and we're good to go

  • IanatorIanator Delightfully mediocre! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    My Rock Band band is called Battlewagon. Is this awesome? Y/N

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against the Irish) Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Dayspring wrote: »
    Stick a [40k] or something in the title and we're good to go
    I just realized I'd forgotten that. :P

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  • FrowbakkFrowbakk Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Blue Dot, y'all!

    I'll post my Seattle GT stuff soon.

    Your sig was too tall.
  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    So, I ended up with two Kaptin Badrukk figures.
    I think I will convert one of them into a warboss.
    Is this a good idea y/n

    (the other option would be to take him into GW and maybe try and switch him out for a snikrot or something)

  • It BurnsIt Burns Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I've been assembling my space marines with no idea about how I'll make them into an actual army, I think I need some help figuring out a list as I'm really lost here. I'm used to making Ork and Tau lists which let me actually take more than 5 units at 1500 points

    I'm going for a list with some static elements to hold objectives and the rest mostly mounted on bikes. Sort of White Scarish as I don't want to use terminators, land raiders and most likely no dreadnoughts. I was going for a 1500 points list and just added what I have and what I would like to assemble/paint and suddenly I'm at 1750 points

    I'd love some comments on this since I'm really in the dark here, having not actually played with marines yet.

    HQ - Captain (Relic Blade, Bike) - 165

    Troop - 10 Tactical (Plasma, Lascannon, Powerfist, Razorback) - 250

    Troop - 10 Tactical (Plasma, Multi-melta, Powerfist, Drop pod) - 215

    Troop - 10 Scouts (Telion, Snipers, Heavy Bolter, Camo cloaks) - 227

    Troop - 6 Bikes (Power Weapon, 2 Plasmagun) - 210

    Troop - 6 Bikes (Power Weapon, 2 Meltagun) - 200

    Fast - 1 Land Speeder (Heavy Bolter, Typhoon missile launchers) - 90

    Fast - 2 Attack bike (Multi-melta) - 100

    Fast - 4 Scout bikes (1 Grenade Launcher, Cluster mines, Combi-melta, Meltabombs) - 125

    Heavy - Predator (Autocannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons) - 85

    Heavy - Predator (Autocannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons) - 85

    Total: 1750pts


    Think I should make space to replace the cpatain with the White Scars special character? would be cool to have a bunch of outflanking stuff.

    Quoted from last thread since it go lost in the warp.

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  • No-QuarterNo-Quarter Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It Burns wrote: »
    I've been assembling my space marines with no idea about how I'll make them into an actual army, I think I need some help figuring out a list as I'm really lost here. I'm used to making Ork and Tau lists which let me actually take more than 5 units at 1500 points

    I'm going for a list with some static elements to hold objectives and the rest mostly mounted on bikes. Sort of White Scarish as I don't want to use terminators, land raiders and most likely no dreadnoughts. I was going for a 1500 points list and just added what I have and what I would like to assemble/paint and suddenly I'm at 1750 points

    I'd love some comments on this since I'm really in the dark here, having not actually played with marines yet.

    HQ - Captain (Relic Blade, Bike) - 165

    Troop - 10 Tactical (Plasma, Lascannon, Powerfist, Razorback) - 250

    Troop - 10 Tactical (Plasma, Multi-melta, Powerfist, Drop pod) - 215

    Troop - 10 Scouts (Telion, Snipers, Heavy Bolter, Camo cloaks) - 227

    Troop - 6 Bikes (Power Weapon, 2 Plasmagun) - 210

    Troop - 6 Bikes (Power Weapon, 2 Meltagun) - 200

    Fast - 1 Land Speeder (Heavy Bolter, Typhoon missile launchers) - 90

    Fast - 2 Attack bike (Multi-melta) - 100

    Fast - 4 Scout bikes (1 Grenade Launcher, Cluster mines, Combi-melta, Meltabombs) - 125

    Heavy - Predator (Autocannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons) - 85

    Heavy - Predator (Autocannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons) - 85

    Total: 1750pts


    Think I should make space to replace the cpatain with the White Scars special character? would be cool to have a bunch of outflanking stuff.
    Quoted from last thread since it go lost in the warp.

    Maybe make one of those Predators all Laz? What points would that put you at?

  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against the Irish) Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Ianator wrote: »
    My Rock Band band is called Battlewagon. Is this awesome? Y/N
    Depends on whether or not you end up being as bad as Bolt-thrower. :P

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  • Foolish ChaosFoolish Chaos Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Ianator wrote: »
    My Rock Band band is called Battlewagon. Is this awesome? Y/N

    [Y]

    Question: So I have my Devil Fish from a few years ago. Back then I made it so that it is standing on its landing gear, but that is much less cool then having it hover, so I want to change it.

    Only I don't have the old large translucent base it comes with, I only have the smaller drone ones. It seems to fit fine on the drone one for now until I can get a large one. It wobbles a little bit but won't really fall over unless you push it. But my question is if the base really matters in game terms? Meaning, when its in hover mode, do assaulting creatures attack the main base or just the hull like normal? A smaller base would be cheating in that regard.

  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against the Irish) Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The base does not matter. All measurements are from the hull.

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  • It BurnsIt Burns Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    No-Quarter wrote: »
    It Burns wrote: »
    I've been assembling my space marines with no idea about how I'll make them into an actual army, I think I need some help figuring out a list as I'm really lost here. I'm used to making Ork and Tau lists which let me actually take more than 5 units at 1500 points

    I'm going for a list with some static elements to hold objectives and the rest mostly mounted on bikes. Sort of White Scarish as I don't want to use terminators, land raiders and most likely no dreadnoughts. I was going for a 1500 points list and just added what I have and what I would like to assemble/paint and suddenly I'm at 1750 points

    I'd love some comments on this since I'm really in the dark here, having not actually played with marines yet.
    Spoiler:


    Think I should make space to replace the cpatain with the White Scars special character? would be cool to have a bunch of outflanking stuff.
    Quoted from last thread since it go lost in the warp.

    Maybe make one of those Predators all Laz? What points would that put you at?

    Don't have the codex on me but I'm pretty sure that's an extra 60 points investment. I don't see much heavy armor around here so I'm a bit light on the lascannons. I did consider it tough, at least giving them lascannon sponsons.

    The idea is to basicly to set up the scouts and the heavy weapon combat squad of the lascannon squad on objectives, the other combatsquad goes in the razorback and advances. Drop pod dudes drop on the least defended objective if possible, or other nice placement. The bikes are supposed to finish off weakened squads or charge in against units vulnerable to melee. Predators and land speeder provide anti-transport/light vehicle firepower, meltas and multimeltas take care of possible heavy armor.

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  • AsherAsher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I now have a Carnifex. How should I outfit it?

    Things my Red Terror has Swallowed Whole: A Mentors Librarian, a Fire Warrior Sash'Ui. Total Points: 109 (so far...)
    "Leapin' and Hoppin' on a Warpshadow" - Mah Nids
    The Swordwind Rises! - Biel Tan. All Aspects. All the time.
    "Before seeking Victory, first make yourself Invulnerable to defeat" - Sneaky sneaky Raptors
  • CrownAxeCrownAxe Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I've been dabbling in the Daemon army for a few months now and here's what i came up with for 2000
    Spoiler:

    I personally like it since i feel it covers everything very well. What does PA think?

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  • TheBogTheBog Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Damn it.. can't wait for new IG codex. It's planned for May, yes?

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  • TheBogTheBog Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Don't know if this has been posted yet.
    The following is reported regarding the upcoming IG codex.

    -Return of the Griffon mortar carrier and other "old units"
    -New weapon options for Sentinels and a sprue recut with the new options added.
    -Sentinels are said to be split into 2 diffent FOC options based on weapon loadouts (basically heavier armed ones won't be able to scout)
    -New Sanctioned Psykers
    -New Ratling Snipers
    -May 2nd release for the codex and other initial offering.

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  • It BurnsIt Burns Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I'm waiting for the new sentinels so I can get add another 4 Killa Kanz to my Waaaagh!

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  • TheBogTheBog Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Aparently you'll be able to get Sentinels with plasma cannons on em. Fuck yeah.

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  • IanatorIanator Delightfully mediocre! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    As long as they have missiles, I will be happy. Because I frickin' love missiles. And grenades.

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  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It Burns, you don't seem to have (m)any template weapons.
    You have a decent number of mans but you still might get swamped.

  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Ghostbuster Hook & Ladder 8Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It Burns wrote: »
    I'm waiting for the new sentinels so I can get add another 4 to my ever growing Sentinel Company in my IG army/

    Fixed for me.

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Wait, new sentinels as in new models?

    models that may be even more awesome than the ones we have now?

    I mean, I've only got one squad, that's barely a start

    although I'm not sure what new weapon options there could be that I'd be interested in

    I could see heavy bolters, missile launchers, multimeltas, or plasma... and I doubt any of those would be as cheap or attractive as heavy flamers.

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  • TheCrumblyCrackerTheCrumblyCracker Registered User
    edited January 2009
    Asher wrote: »
    I now have a Carnifex. How should I outfit it?

    Dakka Fex. 2TL Devourers 8 shots re roll hits and wounds. Str 6 shots wooot!
    Sniper Fex - Venom Cannon and Barbed Strangler, expensive, blows shit up (sometimes)
    Boom fex - Barbed Strangler twin linked Deathspitter Blows shit up. Large template str 8 kills everything it touches assuming it doesnt roll off the table. Deathspitter 4tw
    Melle fex- Varies depending on how many points you want to shell out. I would ALWAYS reccomend giving it Adrenal Glands for +1 ws AND I (goes before Power Weapons!), toxic miasma ( lowers models that you are in contact with WS)

    With a CC fex you gotta make every hit count.. lows WS + low attacks = you can roll 5 hits and be totaly SOL sometimes ( RAWR IMA MONSTER DERP I MISSED THE WITTLE MARINE) Feeder Tendrils from a Genestealer... helllloooo!


    MAGNETIZE SO YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR WEAPON BIOMORPHS!! AND HEAD!!

  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Ghostbuster Hook & Ladder 8Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    Wait, new sentinels as in new models?

    models that may be even more awesome than the ones we have now?

    I mean, I've only got one squad, that's barely a start

    although I'm not sure what new weapon options there could be that I'd be interested in

    I could see heavy bolters, missile launchers, multimeltas, or plasma... and I doubt any of those would be as cheap or attractive as heavy flamers.

    Until I see a picture I can't confirm but this is what I think the New Sentinel will be.

    The basic Sentinel model will remain the same. It will be re-cut and the placement of parts will be rearranged on the frame similar to the new Landspeeders. It will hopefully have a plastic version of the Cadian pattern extra armor, and maybe some form of roof like the Armageddon pattern for armored crew compartments. For sure it will also have plastic multi-laser, heavy flamer, lascannon, autocannon, and a rumored plasma cannon. I'm hoping for a multi-melta and heavy bolter as well.

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  • Sharp101Sharp101 TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Mayday wrote: »
    Warhammer 40k: I just bought too many fucking marines.

  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I just know I'm going to end up using as many sentinels as I possibly can, in as many separately functioning roles as I can, and I'm going to love it, cost be damned

    how many can you fit in the current 'dex? 12? that might carry over

    yeah, that's nice

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  • IanatorIanator Delightfully mediocre! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    how many can you fit in the current 'dex? 12? that might carry over

    I thought it was 15, unless for some reason you can't take two Command Platoons...

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    goodness, it is 15! and at minimum cost, that's only 600 points.

    value!

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  • AsherAsher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Asher wrote: »
    I now have a Carnifex. How should I outfit it?

    Dakka Fex. 2TL Devourers 8 shots re roll hits and wounds. Str 6 shots wooot!
    Sniper Fex - Venom Cannon and Barbed Strangler, expensive, blows shit up (sometimes)
    Boom fex - Barbed Strangler twin linked Deathspitter Blows shit up. Large template str 8 kills everything it touches assuming it doesnt roll off the table. Deathspitter 4tw
    Melle fex- Varies depending on how many points you want to shell out. I would ALWAYS reccomend giving it Adrenal Glands for +1 ws AND I (goes before Power Weapons!), toxic miasma ( lowers models that you are in contact with WS)

    With a CC fex you gotta make every hit count.. lows WS + low attacks = you can roll 5 hits and be totaly SOL sometimes ( RAWR IMA MONSTER DERP I MISSED THE WITTLE MARINE) Feeder Tendrils from a Genestealer... helllloooo!


    MAGNETIZE SO YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR WEAPON BIOMORPHS!! AND HEAD!!

    Cheers! For sure I'm going ot magnetize this bastard. I'll have a muck around with various builds and see what I like. I'm kinda leaning towards a Melee 'fex for traditions sake.

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  • TheCrumblyCrackerTheCrumblyCracker Registered User
    edited January 2009
    I have never had any luck with mine when he was a CC fex. Power fists fucking ruin my life.

  • SJSJ Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    New thread! Glee!

    Played another 2k game this afternoon against a buddy's IG. Spearhead, 2 Objectives. He had 136 models, I had 144. At the end of the game he had 6 models, I had... about 36 models.

    It was fucking epic. And I wish I had a digital camera.

  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against the Irish) Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Ianator wrote: »
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    how many can you fit in the current 'dex? 12? that might carry over

    I thought it was 15, unless for some reason you can't take two Command Platoons...
    You can't take two Command Platoons.

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  • NaxNax Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    SJ wrote: »

    Played another 2k game this afternoon against a buddy's IG. Spearhead, 2 Objectives. He had 136 models, I had 144. At the end of the game he had 6 models, I had... about 36 models.

    It was fucking epic. And I wish I had a digital camera.

    Me too. Get on that :P

    In DoW news... I have base DoW around here somewhere... and I think I have a Dark Crusade around somewhere too, but damn me if I'd be able to find them without tearing this place apart. I am this close to buying the "everything dawn of war" pack from Steam. Good idea, or best idea?

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  • AsherAsher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Or wait a month and get DoW II.

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    "Leapin' and Hoppin' on a Warpshadow" - Mah Nids
    The Swordwind Rises! - Biel Tan. All Aspects. All the time.
    "Before seeking Victory, first make yourself Invulnerable to defeat" - Sneaky sneaky Raptors
  • SJSJ Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Nax: If your computer can run DoW2, awful idea.

  • AsherAsher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    So, considering the Beta is just around the corner, we should think about playing some games.

    Also, totally beat you SJ.

    Things my Red Terror has Swallowed Whole: A Mentors Librarian, a Fire Warrior Sash'Ui. Total Points: 109 (so far...)
    "Leapin' and Hoppin' on a Warpshadow" - Mah Nids
    The Swordwind Rises! - Biel Tan. All Aspects. All the time.
    "Before seeking Victory, first make yourself Invulnerable to defeat" - Sneaky sneaky Raptors
  • NaxNax Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Curse you! You guys are supposed to encourage these impulse purchases!

    The following people are amazing and I love them: Wildcat, Timspork, Kias, Denada, susan, Sharp101, [GHSC]Ryctor, Matev, Matrias, ItBurns, Slapnuts, Dayspring, see317, and the unknown poster that sent me a box of Death Company! <3 If you get them as Santees you should buy them amazing things!
  • SJSJ Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Asher wrote: »
    So, considering the Beta is just around the corner, we should think about playing some games.

    Also, totally beat you SJ.

    Nuh uh, my response was in addition to yours

    Meanie D:

    Edit: also, if you want to play DoW2, post in the thread we have going on over at G&T.

  • AsherAsher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    We're encouraging you to buy what looks like a better game, that isn't 5 years old, that all of us will be playing.

    Call it enlightened self interest.

    Things my Red Terror has Swallowed Whole: A Mentors Librarian, a Fire Warrior Sash'Ui. Total Points: 109 (so far...)
    "Leapin' and Hoppin' on a Warpshadow" - Mah Nids
    The Swordwind Rises! - Biel Tan. All Aspects. All the time.
    "Before seeking Victory, first make yourself Invulnerable to defeat" - Sneaky sneaky Raptors
  • SJSJ Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Asher, you planning on playin' Nids in the new DoW?

  • NaxNax Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Oh, I will totally be playing DoW2, regardless of any base DoW purchase I make before then

    The following people are amazing and I love them: Wildcat, Timspork, Kias, Denada, susan, Sharp101, [GHSC]Ryctor, Matev, Matrias, ItBurns, Slapnuts, Dayspring, see317, and the unknown poster that sent me a box of Death Company! <3 If you get them as Santees you should buy them amazing things!
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