actually I'm kind of disappointed that genestealers aren't in DoW2, considering they're such an iconic Tyranid unit, but maybe we'll get some genestealer + broodlord DLC action
speaking of genestealers, I just got some extra feeder tendril heads to go on the unassembled stealers from my battleforce
I'm planning on FT on both my genestealer broods and scuttlers on one, but I'm sitting here looking at the extended carapaces on the sprue and wondering about their usefulness
I plan to screen the brood without scuttlers with gaunts, so I don't think they need EC, but could the outflanking brood use them? or is it pointless to worry about the survivability of that unit, i.e. their only goals should be to (hopefully) come in on the other player's side and (hopefully) kill something important before being annihilated in the next shooting phase?
actually I'm kind of disappointed that genestealers aren't in DoW2, considering they're such an iconic Tyranid unit, but maybe we'll get some genestealer + broodlord DLC action
speaking of genestealers, I just got some extra feeder tendril heads to go on the unassembled stealers from my battleforce
I'm planning on FT on both my genestealer broods and scuttlers on one, but I'm sitting here looking at the extended carapaces on the sprue and wondering about their usefulness
I plan to screen the brood without scuttlers with gaunts, so I don't think they need EC, but could the outflanking brood use them? or is it pointless to worry about the survivability of that unit, i.e. their only goals should be to (hopefully) come in on the other player's side and (hopefully) kill something important before being annihilated in the next shooting phase?
Are you infiltrating them? Outflanking? I wouldn't worry about their survivability if they are getting screened by gaunts / hormagaunts (who make a great screen due to also having fleet AND can leap, meaning they get in combat before stealers)
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They were completely serious
And they never came back cause you murdered them, right?
RIGHT?!
I quickly informed them that 40k the IP has been around longer than Blizzard the company. I'm pretty sure I've never seen them again.
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edited January 2009
So Ork peoples, something I want to make sure of.
The Loota/Burna kit. It has a Big Shoota and Rokkit Launcha for the Mek, just missing the second arms, right? Also, does the Ork Nobz kit come with TL Shootas?
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Only so long as it was preceded by screaming "Blood for the blood god".
Otherwise it's just a waste.
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edited January 2009
Pretty Damn good summary of all IG rumors up to this point.
General info
Release Rumoured to be 2 May 2009.
Rumoured to include at least 2 waves of releases. It is unclear when the second wave will appear.
Rules
Judging from the release schedule, it is pretty much confirmed that Primaris Psykers will make a return. Their rules can only be speculated on as yet.
There is rumoured to be a new commander type that allows some type of bombardment.
The green of a Commissar Lord was seen some time ago, and it is rumoured to have rules in the new Codex.
There has also been rumoured to be an Inquisitor and Retinue entry as an HQ choice, which would supposedly appear much like the elites from the current Daemon Hunters/Witch Hunters books.
The assumption has been made based on the WIP Stormtrooper mini that Stormtroopers will be able to take shotguns
Sniper Squads can supposedly infiltrate, get stealth, range finders and all models in the squad have sniper rifles and BS 4.
Veteran squads are rumoured to become upgrades to platoons rather than Elites choices.
Platoons will supposedly benefit from various special rules which only work if the Platoon command squad is alive and within 12” of the rest of the platoon. One such special rule is rumoured to be called "Platoon Drill" or something similar, and grants the ability to ignore any other squad within the Platoon for the purposes of determining the enemy's cover save. What this means is that the Guard squads will get a cover save when being shot at through a squad in the same Platoon, but their enemy will not get one when the squad shoots back.
Platoons have been rumoured to have a great number of options available to them including attaching various support vehicles like sentinels, hellhounds and demolishers. They still take up a FOC spot, but become part of the platoon and so will benefit from the Platoon Drill rule.
Doctrines have supposedly been replaced by Platoons with more options, so for example, rather than Armoured fist squads a player would buy Chimeras for a whole platoon, or buy the whole platoon grav-chutes to give them deep strike, or drop the heavy weapons from squads and give the platoon Scout. This system would allow “crusade” style armies of multiple regiments.
Different kinds of Sentinel will be available with different weapon options. Some will be able to Scout, whilst others will have heavy weapons like Plasma Cannons.
The Valkyrie will be included, possibly as a transport for Stormtroopers, but will most likely be a skimmer (possibly fast) and is rumoured to allow embarked troops to deploy after deep striking.
Ogryns have been rumoured to be T5 with a 4+ save and Feel No Pain.
There are rumoured to be 21 “variants” of tank in the new Codex. It is unclear what exactly constitutes a variant though. It has been rumoured that at least one old style of artillary tank, possibly the Griffon, will make a return.
It is also rumoured that IG tanks will get a special rule allowing them to fire sponson weapons as though they were Defensive weapons. Opinion is still up in the air on the veracity of this one.
The Leman Russ can be bought as a squadron so you can get 3 for a single FOC. It is also rumoured to get a drop in front armour to 13.
It has been pretty much universally stated that the Baneblade is NOT in the new codex.
New Ratlings have supposedly been spotted and have cloaks and hoods.
The new Sentinel box is rumoured to have all Heavy Weapon options including at least a Plasma Cannon in the box.
The contents of the Command Squads are as yet unknown.
Some say the Valkyrie will include bits to make a Vulture as well. This is far from confirmed and could just be wish-listing repeated as rumour.
The Cadian and Catachan Boxes are most likely 10 man sets with a heavy weapon included. Nothing has been said about whether the box will include multiple heavy weapon options, or if individual heavy weapons sets will be withdrawn. The Catachans are rumoured to be a slight improvement in sculpt more in line with the recent Heavy Weapons team than their original incarnation.
Plastic Roughriders in the Cadian style have been rumoured. Little has been said about these, so they would be 2nd wave at the very least.
CAD drawings of some tanks have been spotted but it is not clear if these are simply concepts or if they are in production. It has been rumoured that the new Leman Russ kit will allow plastic demolishers and a 3rd variant. They don’t seem to be included in the first wave either way.
A WIP Stormtrooper with shotgun (assumed to be Plastic) has been seen. It is unclear when or if this will be released but it doesn't appear to be in the first wave.
There have been rumours of Greatcoat plastics for some time, but these have been consistently shot down by those “in the know”. It seems quite a few GW managers are reporting that plastic Greatcoats are in the pipeline, possibly even as soon as 2nd wave. They will supposedly make Steel Legion, Kreig, and/or Valhallans, which some people believe to be a sign the rumour is untrue, as the look of those regiments would need to be drastically altered to create them all from one kit.
Regardless of whether or not they are being developed, it is safe to say they will not be seen during the initial release.
Be gone with your guard rumors, I enjoy winning my games
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edited January 2009
I sure am glad that all my sentinel weapons are magnetized, because sweet jesus, being able to take plasma cannons in a standard guard lists makes me feel all kinds of glee.
there is nothing in that list that does not make me feel warm and contented
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UtsanomikoBros before DoesRollin' in the thlayRegistered Userregular
edited January 2009
I gotta admit those rumors make Codex Imperial Guard sound like a 100% 'dang why you gotta do a thing'-free update. Always thought the Griffon would be fun to field.
And, btw, playing purely guard I've never used plasma cannons. Looked up the stats. Hot shit! Wiping out scores of terminators and devastators in one shot at 36 inches? Yes please.
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And, btw, playing purely guard I've never used plasma cannons. Looked up the stats. Hot shit! Wiping out scores of terminators and devastators in one shot at 36 inches? Yes please.
Plasma Cannons on vehicles are lovely. Plasma cannons on marines, not so much... I have used a marine to shoot a plasma cannon 7 times in the year I've been playing 40k. 6 times it has overheated (3 of those resulting in a dead marine), and once I killed 4 orks after the scatter. Plasma hates me
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Looks great, tons of extra orky bits for anyone willing to drop the dough
I, on the other hand, will be picking up a Stormlord. For some reason I have an unhealthy obsession with the Vulcan Mega Bolter. Something about Heavy 15 just floors me. Gosh, sometimes I just love Games Workshop. On another note, remember that awesome giant WWII mortar plastic kit that was perfect scale for 40k and was floating around this forum? I just looked it up again out of curiosity. Something that was selling for $60 bucks before is now at least $80. Wish I had jumped on that before.
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Gabriel_Pitt(effective against Russian warships)Registered Userregular
edited January 2009
Of course it seems very likely that the stormlord will be one of the configurations for the six variant plastic super-heavy coming out.
They're a small blast, so yeah, they scatter. On a Marine, its a Heavy Weapon, so no... no moving and firing.
On a walker, you can move and fire (and have no overheat risk)
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speaking of genestealers, I just got some extra feeder tendril heads to go on the unassembled stealers from my battleforce
I'm planning on FT on both my genestealer broods and scuttlers on one, but I'm sitting here looking at the extended carapaces on the sprue and wondering about their usefulness
I plan to screen the brood without scuttlers with gaunts, so I don't think they need EC, but could the outflanking brood use them? or is it pointless to worry about the survivability of that unit, i.e. their only goals should be to (hopefully) come in on the other player's side and (hopefully) kill something important before being annihilated in the next shooting phase?
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Are you infiltrating them? Outflanking? I wouldn't worry about their survivability if they are getting screened by gaunts / hormagaunts (who make a great screen due to also having fleet AND can leap, meaning they get in combat before stealers)
I quickly informed them that 40k the IP has been around longer than Blizzard the company. I'm pretty sure I've never seen them again.
Murder would have been better though
The Loota/Burna kit. It has a Big Shoota and Rokkit Launcha for the Mek, just missing the second arms, right? Also, does the Ork Nobz kit come with TL Shootas?
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Otherwise it's just a waste.
espacially the Platoon rules
No plasma cannons for you
Don't make me start taking 3 squads of 3 skorchas every game I will do it
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yeah, I'm kind of apprehensive for the actual release
rumours are one thing, but I'm just waiting for the actual codex for the other shoe to drop
Imagine a miniature basilisk with all kinds of different shells to choose from
"Go up, thou bald head." -2 Kings 2:23
And, btw, playing purely guard I've never used plasma cannons. Looked up the stats. Hot shit! Wiping out scores of terminators and devastators in one shot at 36 inches? Yes please.
Neat idea. I guess we'll see how it sorts out.
Plasma Cannons on vehicles are lovely. Plasma cannons on marines, not so much... I have used a marine to shoot a plasma cannon 7 times in the year I've been playing 40k. 6 times it has overheated (3 of those resulting in a dead marine), and once I killed 4 orks after the scatter. Plasma hates me
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I, on the other hand, will be picking up a Stormlord. For some reason I have an unhealthy obsession with the Vulcan Mega Bolter. Something about Heavy 15 just floors me. Gosh, sometimes I just love Games Workshop. On another note, remember that awesome giant WWII mortar plastic kit that was perfect scale for 40k and was floating around this forum? I just looked it up again out of curiosity. Something that was selling for $60 bucks before is now at least $80. Wish I had jumped on that before.
Linky to BOLS from which you can click on the cover art
Its a mean looking mother.
On a walker, you can move and fire (and have no overheat risk)
also, someone play dow2 with me :P
I've been having trouble finding materials that are suitable
also, someone play dow2 with me :P
i'll post pics once i really get going on it
Well, potentially. In exchange for them being cheaper and able to take more...