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Iceland: Who need's government anyways?

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  • OatsOats Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Nova_C wrote: »
    Canada had one start in finish in a couple months.

    For reference, the 2008 election in Canada lasted five weeks, from September 7th (Parliament dissolved) to October 14th (election day).

    This isn't a big deal.

    Like, at all.

  • TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Hachface wrote: »
    The headlines really are incredibly misleading. My first thought when I read NYT's headline, "Iceland's Government Collapses," was something along the lines of "Oh no! I hope they don't all starve!"

    Honestly it's still probably something of a concern, what with the terrible economic woes facing them.

  • ZealotZealot Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    This wrote: »
    Okay seriously. Please change the thread title and content of the first post or something. Iceland has not disappeared under the waves.
    ... yet.

    Don't worry, if we go down we will make sure to take everyone down with us :twisted:

    On a more serious point, it sounds like a new government coalition between the the Social Democratic Alliance Party and the left green party (with the support of the progressive party) is in making. It would rule with a minority in the Parliament though. The new prime minister would likely be for the first time a woman, who was the only minister in the late government that people were happy with.

    Nothing has been written in stone yet though but we'll see how tomorrow goes.


    (I hope this is understandable, i'm not good with politics and English together...)

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  • ThisThis Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Zealot wrote: »
    (I hope this is understandable, i'm not good with politics and English together...)

    Ég skilurðu. :)

  • ZealotZealot Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    This wrote: »
    Zealot wrote: »
    (I hope this is understandable, i'm not good with politics and English together...)

    Ég skilurðu. :)

    Flottur.

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  • MalaysianShrewMalaysianShrew Registered User
    edited January 2009
    Zealot wrote: »
    This wrote: »
    Zealot wrote: »
    (I hope this is understandable, i'm not good with politics and English together...)

    Ég skilurðu. :)

    Flottur.


    Bjork.


    And wow, was this ever a bad use of words by the Times. Congress stops working all the time in the US. Hell, during the banking disaster there were some congressmen who didn't want to convene. It's shitty, and is only going to make Iceland's economic situation worse, but the Government, in the sense of a system, has not collapsed. And yeah, I would say this is like if midterm the Obama administration broke up and somehow that required a new election for congress and president to be held.

    What I am confused on is this: Do you vote for a party/coalition or an actual representative? Because in the US our Congressmen are voted as people first, so if they wanted to break away and be independent it wouldn't cause a reelection in that district/state. So really, half of the Democrats could break off and form a Liberal party and it wouldn't change anything until the next elections. It seems like voting for a party is a terrible idea which we sort of do for President and I'm not fond of it.

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    At least you guys don't have 17 months to wait until an election to show your anger at the gross incompetence of your politicians.

    Our prime minister was chancellor for a decade or so before taking over, and STILL denies it's his fault that everything has hit the fan.

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  • shanisshanis LT, US Navy Virginia, USARegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    So, just so I understand this, the president and his cabinet resigned. That's it. They'll elect a new president and life goes on.

    How is this a "collapse?"

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  • ZealotZealot Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It isn't.

    Edit: as for the questions about the voting system, I can't really answer that due to never having voted (will change in May).

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  • Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It should also be mentioned that Parlamentary systems lack the number of presidential appointments that the US system has. There is no case of the presidents golf-buddy getting appointed head of FEMA for instance. All senior bureocratic posts are held by people with decades of experience.

    The downside is that all senior bureocratic posts are held by people with decades of experience.

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  • StarZapperStarZapper Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    bongi wrote: »
    Basically right now is the only time I'm glad to have a first past the post system. At least something like this is very unlikely in the UK, especially right now when our economy is about to follow Iceland up shit creek, paddling with only its hands.


    See, I can't understand posts like this. How can one admit the UK is in the same exact position and then claim it's different? The fact is the UK as well as Ireland are in the exact same position as Iceland, just that Iceland is half a year or so ahead of them. I fully expect Ireland to collapse first followed by the UK sometime within the year. That's what happens when your country's debt balloons to a larger size then the country: economics 101 here. Better apply to the IMF sooner then later, as I can't help but wonder when they'll run out of money themselves.

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  • HorusHorus Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    StarZapper wrote: »
    bongi wrote: »
    Basically right now is the only time I'm glad to have a first past the post system. At least something like this is very unlikely in the UK, especially right now when our economy is about to follow Iceland up shit creek, paddling with only its hands.


    See, I can't understand posts like this. How can one admit the UK is in the same exact position and then claim it's different? The fact is the UK as well as Ireland are in the exact same position as Iceland, just that Iceland is half a year or so ahead of them. I fully expect Ireland to collapse first followed by the UK sometime within the year. That's what happens when your country's debt balloons to a larger size then the country: economics 101 here. Better apply to the IMF sooner then later, as I can't help but wonder when they'll run out of money themselves.

    What makes US situation any different? Just asking because I thought the US had it worse than UK/Iceland.

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  • ThisThis Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Horus wrote: »
    What makes US situation any different? Just asking because I thought the US had it worse than UK/Iceland.

    Well I'm not sure if this is exactly what you're referring to, but the US doesn't have a parliamentary system. You elect people to fixed terms and that's the end of it. In a parliamentary system where no party has a majority, the government only lasts as long as everyone decides to let it. So in parliamentary systems governments are brought down/end at the drop of a hat so to speak.

  • DrakeonDrakeon Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Well jeez, didn't realize I'd take so much flack for my thread title, I didn't get to read the whole article, so I guess thats my fault. It also appears I'm unable to change it to something more accurate, so if one of you mods wants too, feel free.

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  • edited January 2009
    StarZapper wrote: »
    bongi wrote: »
    Basically right now is the only time I'm glad to have a first past the post system. At least something like this is very unlikely in the UK, especially right now when our economy is about to follow Iceland up shit creek, paddling with only its hands.


    See, I can't understand posts like this. How can one admit the UK is in the same exact position and then claim it's different? The fact is the UK as well as Ireland are in the exact same position as Iceland, just that Iceland is half a year or so ahead of them. I fully expect Ireland to collapse first followed by the UK sometime within the year. That's what happens when your country's debt balloons to a larger size then the country: economics 101 here. Better apply to the IMF sooner then later, as I can't help but wonder when they'll run out of money themselves.
    The UK is in the same economic situation, not the same political situation.

  • His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User
    edited January 2009
    Pretty glad I live in Australia. Our banks, with a couple of exceptions, have behaved pretty well. And we only have a national debt so that risk-free securities are profitable.

  • XheroXhero Registered User
    edited January 2009
    An actual Green government in power should be an interesting thing to observe. I'm watching the situation pretty eagerly.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Drakeon wrote: »
    Well jeez, didn't realize I'd take so much flack for my thread title, I didn't get to read the whole article, so I guess thats my fault. It also appears I'm unable to change it to something more accurate, so if one of you mods wants too, feel free.

    You can if you click edit on the first post.

  • JoJoHoraHoraJoJoHoraHora ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Ah, collapsing goverments. Here in Italy it's our national sport, second only to soccer.

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  • MidshipmanMidshipman Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Obs wrote: »
    Also, EVE Online is pretty much going to be fucked as a result of this. Aren't they based in Ice Land?

    Yes, CCP (company behind EVE Online) is based in Iceland. No, they aren't really effected by either the political or economic crises in Iceland. They do most of their business in foreign currency ($,£,€) and the actual servers are based in the UK.

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