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Summer Dump pg.3 [Watts Thread] (NSFW/56k)
Angel_of_Bacon
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So as probably most of you know, I started down at Watts Atelier where Cakemikz goes 2 weeks ago or so.
Cake suggested, nay, demanded a progress thread, a request accompanied by much threatening finger waggling- thus, this thread. (You didn't say it had to be well-formatted though! HA HA!) Hopefully actual progress will be made in the coming weeks, thus saving me from looking like a dense clod.
So anyways, the progress thus far, roughly (but not exactly because I have a horrible memory) organized by class.
(Some of the darks got kind of blown out in the ones with actual values in them, because I batch leveled everything in PS. :?)
Tonal Drawing, where we did not watch a movie about balls-
Head Lay-Ins-
Head Drawing-
Figure Invention, gesture/basic form studies from references-
Figure Lay-Ins-
Figure Drawing-
Cake suggested, nay, demanded a progress thread, a request accompanied by much threatening finger waggling- thus, this thread. (You didn't say it had to be well-formatted though! HA HA!) Hopefully actual progress will be made in the coming weeks, thus saving me from looking like a dense clod.
So anyways, the progress thus far, roughly (but not exactly because I have a horrible memory) organized by class.
(Some of the darks got kind of blown out in the ones with actual values in them, because I batch leveled everything in PS. :?)
Tonal Drawing, where we did not watch a movie about balls-
Head Lay-Ins-
Head Drawing-
Figure Invention, gesture/basic form studies from references-
Figure Lay-Ins-
Figure Drawing-
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It's nice to see you doing more physical art and not as much photoshop art as welllllll.
It's not a college, there aren't any degrees. You sign up for whatever classes you want by the quarter.
I would like to get a time estimate though, on the head drawings, and the head lay-ins, what would you say the time you where given per sketch, also I'm terrible at telling what mediums are used, it looks like you used pencil to draw it out then Charcoal to shade it in, was it that? UGHGHGHGHG so jealous.
edit: and it looks like charcoal to :<
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Wait, which...?
Your geos are great. Need some more anatomy study to really get a good idea of the right shapes for the job.
edit: these are just studies, so i suggest do not waste time getting something close to finish or make that your goal. You should practice drawing very light wireframes around the muscles. That is a much better use of these poses.
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Can't wait to see what you come up with next!
I agree with prox though KIND OF, You definitely understand what your seeing and can obviously observe well, I'm trying to get out of the mode of thinking like a checklist, but it seems like what its basically coming down to now is understanding the subtle changing tones in things now and how long it takes for you to apply and observe it if you have to go slow then that's fine speed comes over time obviously.
Edit: I forgot to mention, you're toughest angle currently I'm assuming is 30-65 degree angle heads, there are a few with over-placed skin where your mind is trying to flatten out the image where its suppose to not to. You might want to practice a little bit with either left/right facing in that way, you have a good eye though head on and side view though. But i'm just a crazy head, doo dee doo.
A real strong start and I can't wait to see all of the progress.
Loom I didn't post much progress in my own work because I didn't even start the thread until after I had been here for awhile. But somewhere on one of the later pages in my thread you can find some of my work from when I started, it is incredibly rocky.
Geez, I need to update my own thread someday...though I haven't done much new work.
Oh yeah, and hopefully you can come by tomorrow between the afternoon and evening classes. We will either grill up burgers again or all chip in for pizza or something. And you can see giganto Franklin!
If you guys feel like it could you describe the teachers teaching style at watts? Do they just sorta let you do your thing for a while then come up, offer one or two lines of advice and walk on. More of a hands on take your pencil from you and show you what your doing wrong? I know it varies from teacher to teacher. Im just curious.
It actually does not vary from teacher to teacher because Jeff doesn't really allow it to. It is always hands-on. Though they use a lot of tracing paper to go over your drawing. It used to be even more so, but now they will actually work directly on the drawing a bit.
Thats cool that you are going to check out LAAFA, though I would probably recommend the California Art Institute over LAAFA. When you talk about California Art Institute, you are talking about a place that gave birth to guys like Glen Orbik, Jeff Watts, Ryan Wurmser, Jeremy Lipking, and Morgan Weistling. These aren't just great artists, these the artists today. I know Glen Orbik really sticks closely to the teaching style of Fred Fixler as well.
edit: To keep from Thread jacking
Bacon, its been almost 24 hours? Wheres the next dump?
Head Drawing/Lay-ins:
Figure Invention- (I know I'm defaulting to cartoon action/style and not getting my proportions right on these, I need to watch that):
Figure Drawing and faceted model head copy:
Figure Lay-ins:
Figure lay-ins from ref:
I expect Cake can give you better advice, but I'd also say that your drawing has improved considerably. :^:
waepoitjwaoitjwaitj Asides that your turning into a little ol' cakemikz.
But we usually call the 'faceted model head' the 'asaro head'
Nice drawings all around though, everything looks great.
Those lay/block-ins are also lookin' pretty good! The torsos seem a biiiit long in a couple of 'em, and the feet seem just a hair too small.
Man, you guys are all makin' me excited about figures. I am totally going to draw some on Friday! Woo
Stick with LAAFA man, much better program than california art institute and much more diverse. Although if you can hit up a class with ryan wurmser over there, do it. CAI relies on its reputation of 15-20 years ago, its not the same..
I'll know you'll disagree with me dude and thats cool.. I'd say a lot of things about watts you'd highly disagree with as well.. no worries. All I can say is that I've been in and out of several schools, so I'm not really talking from lack of experience...
Two-tone practice from photos:
2-5 minute quick sketches from model
Figure lay-ins
Head lay-ins+ longer head drawings
Figure drawings, 2-3 hours
Sketches from Muybridge and other photos
Figure Invention
Row 2- 'push the pose' exercise from model
Row 3- quick anatomy studies, mirrored poses, and 'draw the model from a different position than the one you are seeing' exercises from model
Row 4- Made up figures with drapery (Lucas' drawover included because it's pretty awesome)
I need to get a lot better at discretion in my linework- too uncontrolled lines, too many lines, too heavy of lines, not enough variety in line quality. Feel ham-handed.
do you ever get to play with the conte crayons? That way there would be slight coloration hints and it would help with highlights maybe.
but these are truely wonderful, the detail is beautiful.
-Mark Twain
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And because BWA HA HA HA, loom.
Edit correction: Durrrrr the opposite of smoother