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  • EchoEcho staring is caring Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited January 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    I dunno the GOP's bullshit with the stimulus sure isn't making me think they are putting country first. Politics the world over is stupid right now.

    The EU parliament made a statement that they "recommend that the trial against The Pirate Bay result in a conviction".

    WHAT THE FLYING FUCK

    The trial hasn't even started yet! And they're suggesting it should result in a conviction, no matter what! AAAAH

    It's time to leave the EU.

  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    Okay. I cannot find the words to describe this latest example of the complete and utter corruption of the EU bureaucracy.

    I dunno the GOP's bullshit with the stimulus sure isn't making me think they are putting country first. Politics the world over is stupid right now.

    i don't see any stimulus package.... oh you mean the 'hey lets put all of our projects on one bill and try to pass it' package

    yeah, stupid GOP.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I dunno the GOP's bullshit with the stimulus sure isn't making me think they are putting country first. Politics the world over is stupid right now.

    The EU parliament made a statement that they "recommend that the trial against The Pirate Bay result in a conviction".

    WHAT THE FLYING FUCK

    The trial hasn't even started yet! And they're suggesting it should result in a conviction, no matter what! AAAAH

    It's time to leave the EU.

    Wow and I thought the US courts sucked. So basically a government entity told a court how it should find?

  • EchoEcho staring is caring Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited January 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    Wow and I thought the US courts sucked. So basically a government entity told a court how it should find?

    Yes. And this is so goddamn illegal under the Swedish constitution if it had been a Swedish official/entity that said it. The separation of executive and legislative branch is there for a reason.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    Okay. I cannot find the words to describe this latest example of the complete and utter corruption of the EU bureaucracy.

    I dunno the GOP's bullshit with the stimulus sure isn't making me think they are putting country first. Politics the world over is stupid right now.

    i don't see any stimulus package.... oh you mean the 'hey lets put all of our projects on one bill and try to pass it' package

    yeah, stupid GOP.

    Sorry doing something is better than nothing and voting along party lines when the president was specifically pushing compromise and gave up some stuff is stupid. Especially since the country backs this plan.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Wow and I thought the US courts sucked. So basically a government entity told a court how it should find?

    Yes. And this is so goddamn illegal under the Swedish constitution if it had been a Swedish official/entity that said it. The separation of executive and legislative branch is there for a reason.

    I've heard ooky things about the EU before, it sounds like a good idea that really hasn't been so hot as of late.

  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    Okay. I cannot find the words to describe this latest example of the complete and utter corruption of the EU bureaucracy.

    I dunno the GOP's bullshit with the stimulus sure isn't making me think they are putting country first. Politics the world over is stupid right now.

    i don't see any stimulus package.... oh you mean the 'hey lets put all of our projects on one bill and try to pass it' package

    yeah, stupid GOP.

    Sorry doing something is better than nothing and voting along party lines when the president was specifically pushing compromise and gave up some stuff is stupid. Especially since the country backs this plan.

    and the GOP, instead fo coming up with new ideas, is pushing the same crap that already didn't work last time.

  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Wow and I thought the US courts sucked. So basically a government entity told a court how it should find?

    Yes. And this is so goddamn illegal under the Swedish constitution if it had been a Swedish official/entity that said it. The separation of executive and legislative branch is there for a reason.

    I've heard ooky things about the EU before, it sounds like a good idea that really hasn't been so hot as of late.

    I don't keep up the TPB, but I was under the impression that torrenting was legal in Sweedan.

  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo When life gives you lemons... ...eat your delicious lemonsRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    God fuckity damn. My supervisor's weird stance of not going to conferences without presenting bites me in the arse again. There's a French group who have come up with some alternate method for doing something I want to do, but they aren't published. All there is was a talk at a recent conference.

    Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    If we're going to stimulate the economy, stimulate the economy. Not PACs and all of that crap.

    Although it's still unclear to me what makes this so much better than the last time around.

    When I look at this new package all I can think of is how much it's going to suck to pay for this later.

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  • EchoEcho staring is caring Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited January 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    I've heard ooky things about the EU before, it sounds like a good idea that really hasn't been so hot as of late.

    It sounded like a good idea until the bureaucracy decided that its primary purpose was to serve the bureaucracy's continued existence. That, and the insane lobbying from corporate interests with slightly more than zero influence from the actual citizens.

  • EchoEcho staring is caring Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited January 2009
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    I don't keep up the TPB, but I was under the impression that torrenting was legal in Sweedan.

    If searching for torrents is illegal, then so is Google. TPB doesn't host any infringing material on its servers.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I've heard ooky things about the EU before, it sounds like a good idea that really hasn't been so hot as of late.

    It sounded like a good idea until the bureaucracy decided that its primary purpose was to serve the bureaucracy's continued existence. That, and the insane lobbying from corporate interests with slightly more than zero influence from the actual citizens.

    Yeech that sucks, so would it be best to just start it over or is the whole system shit fucked?

  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Bama wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    Bama wrote: »
    Damn, Mike. How about you go easy on nexus? He's under a lot of stress already.
    what
    MikeMan wrote: »
    Sorry I tried my best
    YOUR BEST AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH SON

    I mean the dude's hair is falling out as it is.
    i don't understand

    HOW DO YOU FUCK UP BAGELS. YOU BOIL THE WATER. PUT IN THE NOODLES
  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I've heard ooky things about the EU before, it sounds like a good idea that really hasn't been so hot as of late.

    It sounded like a good idea until the bureaucracy decided that its primary purpose was to serve the bureaucracy's continued existence. That, and the insane lobbying from corporate interests with slightly more than zero influence from the actual citizens.

    It was my understanding that the motivation for the EU was primarily an economic one. Unifying economies and strengthening them through "banding together" and all that.

    But some of the recent additions to the EU make no sense in that regard.

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  • EchoEcho staring is caring Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited January 2009
    Gooey wrote: »
    It was my understanding that the motivation for the EU was primarily an economic one. Unifying economies and strengthening them through "banding together" and all that.

    But some of the recent additions to the EU make no sense in that regard.

    It doesn't even make sens from an economic perspective any longer. The EU is essentially moving to a planned Soviet economy.

  • JamesJames Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I hate mornings.

  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Torrents are on the way out, anyway. Usenet is coming back in a big way.

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gooey wrote: »
    If we're going to stimulate the economy, stimulate the economy. Not PACs and all of that crap.

    Although it's still unclear to me what makes this so much better than the last time around.

    When I look at this new package all I can think of is how much it's going to suck to pay for this later.

    or atleast stop calling it a stimulus package.

  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    I don't keep up the TPB, but I was under the impression that torrenting was legal in Sweedan.

    If searching for torrents is illegal, then so is Google. TPB doesn't host any infringing material on its servers.

    Yeah that's basically what I was under the impression of. So how do you press charges on a person/company for not breaking the law? You can rewrite the law but until such time how do you press charges on them.

  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gooey wrote: »
    Torrents are on the way out, anyway. Usenet is coming back in a big way.

    o rly?

    wait is usenet the alt.binaries business that I hated fucking using?

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  • EchoEcho staring is caring Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited January 2009
    Gooey wrote: »
    Torrents are on the way out, anyway. Usenet is coming back in a big way.

    And once big enough to get attention from lobbyists it's way easier to dismantle and push under the carpet.

    Decentralized tracker-less torrents? Good luck killing that.

  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gooey wrote: »
    Torrents are on the way out, anyway. Usenet is coming back in a big way.

    o rly?

    wait is usenet the alt.binaries business that I hated fucking using?

    yeah

    the premium newsgroup services have huge amounts of growth lately. For instance, Giganews is adding 2TB in storage a day.

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    I don't keep up the TPB, but I was under the impression that torrenting was legal in Sweedan.

    If searching for torrents is illegal, then so is Google. TPB doesn't host any infringing material on its servers.

    Yeah that's basically what I was under the impression of. So how do you press charges on a person/company for not breaking the law? You can rewrite the law but until such time how do you press charges on them.

    wouldn't it be aiding and abetting someone else in a crime?

    especially if your site is designed for that purpose primarily? including the name of the site?

  • HaphazardHaphazard Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    James wrote: »
    I hate mornings.

    I like you.

  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    I don't keep up the TPB, but I was under the impression that torrenting was legal in Sweedan.

    If searching for torrents is illegal, then so is Google. TPB doesn't host any infringing material on its servers.

    Yeah that's basically what I was under the impression of. So how do you press charges on a person/company for not breaking the law? You can rewrite the law but until such time how do you press charges on them.

    wouldn't it be aiding and abetting someone else in a crime?

    It depends on their laws. Remember this isn't the US.

  • EchoEcho staring is caring Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited January 2009
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Yeah that's basically what I was under the impression of. So how do you press charges on a person/company for not breaking the law? You can rewrite the law but until such time how do you press charges on them.

    The charges are copyright infringement and "conspiracy to commit copyright infringement" or whatever nonsense it was called.

    The funny thing is that the prosecutors have zero expert witnesses on their list -- it's just various artists and music industry execs that will probably perform well-rehearsed sob stories about them horrible pirates.

  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Yeah that's basically what I was under the impression of. So how do you press charges on a person/company for not breaking the law? You can rewrite the law but until such time how do you press charges on them.

    The charges are copyright infringement and "conspiracy to commit copyright infringement" or whatever nonsense it was called.

    The funny thing is that the prosecutors have zero expert witnesses on their list -- it's just various artists and music industry execs that will probably perform well-rehearsed sob stories about them horrible pirates.

    "Mr. X, what was your total income last year including salary bonuses etc."

    Hey look the record company lost the case. :)

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    God I hate recording artists, they lose nothing from these sites. Hell there are plenty of stories of people aquiring something legally after getting it illegally. And this wouldn't be an issue if they hadn't fucked everyone with CD's for so long.

  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    God I hate recording artists, they lose nothing from these sites. Hell there are plenty of stories of people aquiring something legally after getting it illegally. And this wouldn't be an issue if they hadn't fucked everyone with CD's for so long.

    The stories of them losing money after Napster went down, due to people using it to look at other bands people had in their lists.

  • EchoEcho staring is caring Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited January 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    God I hate recording artists, they lose nothing from these sites. Hell there are plenty of stories of people aquiring something legally after getting it illegally. And this wouldn't be an issue if they hadn't fucked everyone with CD's for so long.

    There are more and more studies showing that people who download also buy more and go to more conserts etc. than people who don't download.

  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS
    edited January 2009
    I want food.

    DAMM
    Drunks Against Mad Mothers
  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Really quick- this is not homework, I'm graduated from college- if someone could help me find where to convert a probability from decimal form to "one in _____" form, I'd really appreciate it.

    The probability is 0.000039837152942224. I need that converted. (Don't even ask why.)

    I have a blog. Read it. Blog-reading makes you pretty and popular.
  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    God I hate recording artists, they lose nothing from these sites. Hell there are plenty of stories of people aquiring something legally after getting it illegally. And this wouldn't be an issue if they hadn't fucked everyone with CD's for so long.

    There are more and more studies showing that people who download also buy more and go to more conserts etc. than people who don't download.

    Why buy a CD and only get to hear one song before buying it. Then you're stuck liking 1/15 of the product you purchased.

  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    God. Napster. Every time that's brought up I just go all nerd-ragey on Metallica.

    YOUR BAND GOT POPULAR BY TAPE TRADING FOR FREE, WHICH YOU SUPPORTED, ASSHOLES. YOU WERE PIRATING BEFORE THE INTERNET!

    Fuckers.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    God I hate recording artists, they lose nothing from these sites. Hell there are plenty of stories of people aquiring something legally after getting it illegally. And this wouldn't be an issue if they hadn't fucked everyone with CD's for so long.

    There are more and more studies showing that people who download also buy more and go to more conserts etc. than people who don't download.

    Of course, it reminds me of when I used to rent games as a kid. Sure I didn't buy shitty games, but if a game was awesome I was more likely to ask for it from my parents. Same thing here give people a taste and your product is good and they will want the full thing.

    And fuck sake we need reliable digital download services that use a universal standard for all mediums.

  • Zilla360Zilla360 Spaaaace! In Space.Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    I don't keep up the TPB, but I was under the impression that torrenting was legal in Sweedan.

    If searching for torrents is illegal, then so is Google. TPB doesn't host any infringing material on its servers.
    They do run several trackers however. It's a legal grey area.

  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS
    edited January 2009
    It's just converting a decimal to a fraction, so write it the 1/x, way. It won't make it any clearer.

    DAMM
    Drunks Against Mad Mothers
  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Have the bands that released albums for free (or rather, donation optional) released any information on how well they did? I know Radiohead did it with In Rainbows and Nine Inch Nails did it on a recent album.

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