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The point of this particular group is to tell you what is going on and how to get the word out. If you looked at it, you'd understand that.
The biggest problem right now is that no one knows this is happening. Facebook spreads the word, and the group lets you know what you can do when you know.
it's all defined by people who actually hate porn, however
so.. what about bondage?
I was at my parents' 30th wedding anniversary meal the other day, with a bunch of their friends, and because they are old, politics got talked about a lot. I found it surprising that about half of them didn't care about all the new laws that are invading our privacy, because they thought it helped protect us against 'evil people in the world'. That was kind of an eye opener for me.
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Well it would have helped if anyone had bothered to read what the proposed law, specifically, was about - instead of playing good old Jump To Conclusions.
ahahaha awesome
So do movies that have actors charged with drug offenses have to be burned in a giant pile?
Now my browser looks as gay as I feel.
All of a sudden 4 Guardia Civil guards rush us, take the camera and start deleting photos saying we had taken photos of them, when we were in fact no where near them.
Apparently we were lucky not to get taken down to the station.
Franco bastards.
The Transformers Fandom: Consistantly bitching about something or another since 1984.
http://www.nuklearpower.com/2009/03/28/warbot_001/ - "WARBOT In Accounting"
It's things like necrophilia and stuff yeah, and fucking animals ... ok fine, all pretty gross and probably best to stay out of my mind at least. But criminalising it?
Also, it says something like "Anything that appears to show people in danger"
So yeah, bondage porn is now illegal. Prison time, AND getting your name on the sex offenders list.
If you're into BDSM and you have any photographic evidence of it, of you or your totally consenting, adult partner. You're a sex offender.
not too much though, that's be illegal
You're a dumbass if you think that this law is a good thing. It doesn't matter what the fuck it's about, it's a disgusting invasion of our rights and gives the police WAY too much power.
Erm.. I don't, nor at any point did I imply that I did.
I've seen just about everything else, but never necrophilia porn.
It's okay. It doesn't even have to actually be necrophilia. It can be simulated necrophilia and it's still illegal.
Proud to be British... very not proud of Britian.
I also just realised, after posting, I have gone over a month without cigarettes, yay go me.
I've never seen necrophilia simulated was what I was trying to say sorry jim
There will still be photographs of police brutality, and all sorts of fuck ups. Because not even the most powerful police force in the world could stop that kind of flow of information. It'll be on liveleak before they even know it happened.
What will happen is that important public events, or locations, will be photograph free zones, where no photography is allowed before anything happens because they are enacting the restrictions allowed in this law. Information will be more tightly controlled, but not limited.
i got you a cigar to celebrate
You should celebrate with a pack of c-
never mind
Citizen journalism was a concept that simply did not exist ten, twenty years ago. Nowadays, the BBC receives 10,000 photographs and eyewitness accounts of the London Tube bombings before their own reporters even knew of the event. In Israel, the BBC (or any international news corporation) is not allowed into Gaza and yet I'm watching a live stream of a woman sticking her webcam out of her Gaza City apartment.
As a government, how can you deal with this? All of your security and defense strategies and allowances are based upon an old view of the media that does not apply anymore, especially in Britain which is arguably leading the world in journalism, along with the US especially.
Part of the law I believe is not bad. I was concerned about going on the Tube for months after they were bombed. And I'm certainly not one to succumb to terrorism. But when it hits you on your doorstep it becomes much more real than the televised images of the WTC collapsing half a planet away. Much more.
But as Obama said in his speech, not at the expense of our ideals and liberties.
In that respect, these laws are both immoral and impractical. You simply cannot outlaw something that you cannot enforce, to any degree. Giving police officers the ability to confiscate photos, or preemptively prohibit photography in an area for security reasons is not going to stop the information. My cellphone has a higher quality camera than my dads that he bought ten years ago for a thousand pounds. And he's a professional photographer.
The bottom line is that the media is not the same as it was when this government (Labour) came into power in 1997. Not even remotely the same. Back then liveleak didnt exist, wikipedia, google, youtube, mobile phones were 2 kilos and didnt have cameras, and the global war on terror was a pipedream.
I contest this law, certainly, but I'm not worried about the ramifications. As someone mentioned, freedom is eroded one step at a time, and while these movements are small, they are building a society of surveillance and control. But at the same time, the availability of information is growing at an exponential rate. The internet is becoming central to most of our lives and technology is advancing so quickly that the governments cannot keep up. That's why we have this 'nanny state' because like so many aspects of our lives, our nations are run by people who did not grow up with the internet, or video games or mobile phones.
Hopefully a new generation of leaders can come through and change this. As I understand it Obama still has his blackberry, and had a PC put in the oval office for the first time, or email.
Societal change is incremental. Like so many other issues, it is going to take this older generation of leaders to die and be replaced before we get back on track. CCTV is not inherently a bad thing, I know that there have been plenty of occassions where I have needed it/been protected by it. But the implementation of these devices is hamfisted and too widespread.
Some people say our freedoms are being inhibited. I take one look at the internet, from my phone, and realize I have more freedom than any generation ever before in the history of my mighty country.
or is it a digital cam?
Of course he still uses film, but not as a photojournalist where everything is digital. You can't exactly carry a hasselblad to a press conference.
My phone is an iphone and therefore 2mpxl.
Anyways, I don't think this is a change that easily gotten away with as you think.
When people get used to it, they won't even think about wanting to get rid of it, which is the meaning of "feedom foes away in small steps"
Every step for itself is almost meaningless, but you can be certain that it's tough as hell to get it reverted 10 steps later
Nice!
Its ok if a chick shits on your chest, as long as she slowly squeezes the loaf out.
(locked in a secret government basement)
Do the waterboard!
Thats where you flop around on the floor, making choking noises. Bonus points if you get a couple friends to hold you down.