As was foretold, we've added advertisements to the forums! If you have questions, or if you encounter any bugs, please visit this thread: https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/240191/forum-advertisement-faq-and-reports-thread/

New comic 2/18

1356717

Posts

  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Why the robots always got to be keeping the sentient mantis people down

    Hunter on
  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Of course, I don't really know much about the setting either. If they are just portraying an accurate backdrop of an African country in the midsts of a civil war then fair enough.

    I mean, was Blood Diamond racist? Was that 24 pre-season mini-movie racist? Even although they both depict Africans behaving in pretty monstrous fashions? Or is that just a fictional representation of factually accurate every-day occurrences in some African countries?

    There are africans in grass skirts throwing spears.


    Meiz wrote: »
    I love this comic.

    As for the topic at hand, I think people forgot the definition of racism and simply cry foul anytime someone shoots someone with dark skin tone.

    They should have made a story arc where the entire population of Africa turns into mantis because people are stupid.

    You tried to correct someone's grammar in the G&T thread about this when you were in the wrong, I don't think you have any right to call anyone stupid.

    L|ama on
  • MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    There are several military dictatorships in Africa.

    Seeing militants doing militant things shouldn't be a fucking surprise.

    Neither should be seeing tribals with spears considering, you guessed it, there are still people running around with spears in Africa.

    Meiz on
  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    There are people in america who dress up as clowns and fuck each other, but american porn and movies set in america don't happen to have clowns fucking each other (very often).

    I'm going to bed, I'm sure this will have turned to shit by morning.

    L|ama on
  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    L|ama wrote: »
    Of course, I don't really know much about the setting either. If they are just portraying an accurate backdrop of an African country in the midsts of a civil war then fair enough.

    I mean, was Blood Diamond racist? Was that 24 pre-season mini-movie racist? Even although they both depict Africans behaving in pretty monstrous fashions? Or is that just a fictional representation of factually accurate every-day occurrences in some African countries?

    There are africans in grass skirts throwing spears.

    Well...I...I mean, they probably still wear grass skirts and carry spears for ceremonial things, right? So maybe they were in the middle of a ceremony when they got zombied?

    And if you've got a spear, might as well throw it.

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    OK, RE5 does sound pretty racist. But zombies have always been about racism, Capcom has just decided not to be subtle about it.

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • Drunk PooroDrunk Pooro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    Someday, I'll stop doing these in MS Paint.

    Someday.

    HotOrNot.jpg

    Drunk Pooro on
    poorooas.gif
  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    leftright.jpg

    notlarlar.jpg

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Also, take a look at the definition of racism while you're at it.

    God.

    Meiz on
  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    Who?

    What? Everybody?

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Meiz wrote: »
    Also, take a look at the definition of racism while you're at it.

    God.
    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

    And.. your point?

    darleysam on
    forumsig.png
  • EmperorSethEmperorSeth Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Cloudman wrote: »
    cynic is racist against mantises

    fuck you and your anti mantis agenda

    When we actually meet the sentient mantis-people and some people will inevitably be prejudiced against them, I think the slur used against them should be "Zorak." As in, "those damned Zoraks are taking my jobs!"

    Or maybe we'll all use it. I don't know; they could be evil.

    EmperorSeth on
    You know what? Nanowrimo's cancelled on account of the world is stupid.
  • MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    Meiz wrote: »
    Also, take a look at the definition of racism while you're at it.

    God.
    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

    And.. your point?

    You're stupid. That's my point.

    Meiz on
  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Panel 2 should be the same as Panel 1, but the black guy has the gun and is holding it sideways and Chris Redfield is handing over the keys to his new Mercedes.

    KalTorak on
  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Meiz wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    Meiz wrote: »
    Also, take a look at the definition of racism while you're at it.

    God.
    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

    And.. your point?

    You're stupid. That's my point.

    No Meiz, we've covered this. If you're going to try and argue something, you have to elaborate beyond retarded hooting. Try again?

    darleysam on
    forumsig.png
  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    I'm not even sure what side Meiz is arguing here. Does he think RE5 is or isn't racist? Or does he even know what he thinks?

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I choose joke option Larlar.

    Centipede Damascus on
  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited February 2009
    that is one cool robot in panel 2

    Unknown User on
  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I think you guys are missing the point here. A company is willing to put out a game where robots kill Giant Mantises when we just got over the Giant Mantis holocaust.

    Quid on
  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I'm not even sure what side Meiz is arguing here. Does he think RE5 is or isn't racist? Or does he even know what he thinks?

    I'm actually curious what Meiz thinks I'm arguing, since I think he's missed my point.

    darleysam on
    forumsig.png
  • MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    Meiz wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    Meiz wrote: »
    Also, take a look at the definition of racism while you're at it.

    God.
    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

    And.. your point?

    You're stupid. That's my point.

    No Meiz, we've covered this. If you're going to try and argue something, you have to elaborate beyond retarded hooting. Try again?

    How is copy pasting the definition without understanding it not stupid?

    Meiz on
  • Andrew RyanAndrew Ryan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I swear to god that zombie is checking out her tits.

    Andrew Ryan on
    Mbt2W.gifbLHcF.gifMbt2W.gifbLHcF.gif
    naknaknaknaknak
  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    Ok, everybody shut up until Meiz tells us racist or not racist.

    (Zombie in panel 2 is looking at her eyes. If you notice in panel 1, they are making eye contact, but in panel 2 she is slightly shorter)

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Meiz wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    Meiz wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    Meiz wrote: »
    Also, take a look at the definition of racism while you're at it.

    God.
    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

    And.. your point?

    You're stupid. That's my point.

    No Meiz, we've covered this. If you're going to try and argue something, you have to elaborate beyond retarded hooting. Try again?

    How is copy pasting the definition without understanding it not stupid?

    Okay, let's try this. Tell me what I'm arguing, please.

    darleysam on
    forumsig.png
  • MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    Meiz wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    Meiz wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    Meiz wrote: »
    Also, take a look at the definition of racism while you're at it.

    God.
    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

    And.. your point?

    You're stupid. That's my point.

    No Meiz, we've covered this. If you're going to try and argue something, you have to elaborate beyond retarded hooting. Try again?

    How is copy pasting the definition without understanding it not stupid?

    Okay, let's try this. Tell me what I'm arguing, please.

    The imagery portrayed in R5 that you mentioned is racist.

    It's not, by the very definition of the fucking word.

    Meiz on
  • Ol' SparkyOl' Sparky Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Wow meiz is a fucking idiot!

    comic was okay

    Ol' Sparky on
  • Ol' SparkyOl' Sparky Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    by the way i don't think darleysam said it was racist

    but that it could be controversial

    which, when you have a white woman being chased down by a black man

    that is some ku klux klan white southern flower of virginity shit at first glance

    Ol' Sparky on
  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    So saying "All black African's are naturally violent, monstrous people" isn't racist? Because I don't use that as an excuse to rule over them and I don't hate them as a result of it? It is just a prejudice.

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    So saying "All black African's are naturally violent, monstrous people" isn't racist? Because I don't use that as an excuse to rule over them and I don't hate them as a result of it? It is just a prejudice.

    They're not saying that at all though.

    Meiz on
  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    Meiz wrote: »
    So saying "All black African's are naturally violent, monstrous people" isn't racist? Because I don't use that as an excuse to rule over them and I don't hate them as a result of it? It is just a prejudice.

    They're not saying that at all though.

    No, I am.

    I guess the implication of the scenes described is Capcom are saying "given the circumstances, this is how Africans would react in this situation". Now you might argue that they are saying this is how any human would react, it just so happens that this game is set in Africa so it is Africans we see reacting. But that ignores the previous Resident Evil games in which we don't see other races reacting this way to a zombie outbreak. So it could be interpreted that Capcom thinks Africans are behaviourally distinct from, say, Americans and would react in a more debased fashion given the opportunity.

    But that's a prejudice, not racism, you are saying.

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Meiz wrote: »
    So saying "All black African's are naturally violent, monstrous people" isn't racist? Because I don't use that as an excuse to rule over them and I don't hate them as a result of it? It is just a prejudice.

    They're not saying that at all though.

    They're portraying un-infected (so we can assume normal) Africans as brutal savages who beat people in sacks and drag women around by their hair. When this is a nation with a long and documented history of being portrayed as brutal savages (you know, racistly), it can lead to some concerns that this might be giving the wrong message.

    edit: so this is a semantics argument? Brilliant.

    darleysam on
    forumsig.png
  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I swear to god that zombie is checking out her tits.

    Well, you know, white wimminz.

    Ruckus on
  • Ness445Ness445 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Ruckus wrote: »
    I swear to god that zombie is checking out her tits.

    Well, you know, white wimminz.
    I need to know where you keep them.

    Ness445 on
    4445.gif
  • LinksvilleLinksville Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Man, you guys have it all wrong. It's the black dude that's racist. He's yet to attack another black person! What's up with that?

    Linksville on
  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    So this is a Swordfights comic?

    NotASenator on
  • MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    Meiz wrote: »
    So saying "All black African's are naturally violent, monstrous people" isn't racist? Because I don't use that as an excuse to rule over them and I don't hate them as a result of it? It is just a prejudice.

    They're not saying that at all though.

    They're portraying un-infected (so we can assume normal) Africans as brutal savages who beat people in sacks and drag women around by their hair. When this is a nation with a long and documented history of being portrayed as brutal savages (you know, racistly), it can lead to some concerns that this might be giving the wrong message.

    edit: so this is a semantics argument? Brilliant.

    How is having militants doing militant things in an area that's known to have military dictatorships somehow speaking for the entire entity which is Africa?

    Just because Capcom decided against having the story occur in some area where people are taking it easy and drinking juice on a patio doesn't mean that they're racists.

    Like what, you want to go on a safari and take pictures of Zebras in order to put your mind at ease?

    See, this is why this entire argument is all kinds of dumb. The only reason it's in question is because there are black people and in your line of thinking you always have to feel sorry for them, even though the setting has factual merrit.

    Meiz on
  • tuggatugga Makin' movies Makin' songsRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    i dont get it

    why is there a praying mantis?

    did gabe turn into an insect now?

    tugga on
  • Ness445Ness445 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    tugga wrote: »
    i dont get it

    why is there a praying mantis?

    did gabe turn into an insect now?
    gabe's evolution cycle is as follows:

    stage 1: gabe.
    stage 2: log.
    stage 3: praying mantis.

    Ness445 on
    4445.gif
  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Meiz wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    Meiz wrote: »
    So saying "All black African's are naturally violent, monstrous people" isn't racist? Because I don't use that as an excuse to rule over them and I don't hate them as a result of it? It is just a prejudice.

    They're not saying that at all though.

    They're portraying un-infected (so we can assume normal) Africans as brutal savages who beat people in sacks and drag women around by their hair. When this is a nation with a long and documented history of being portrayed as brutal savages (you know, racistly), it can lead to some concerns that this might be giving the wrong message.

    edit: so this is a semantics argument? Brilliant.

    How is having militants doing militant things in an area that's known to have military dictatorships somehow speaking for the entire entity which is Africa?

    Just because Capcom decided against having the story occur in some area where people are taking it easy and drinking juice on a patio doesn't mean that they're racists.

    Like what, you want to go on a safari and take pictures of Zebras in order to put your mind at ease?

    See, this is why this entire argument is all kinds of dumb. The only reason it's in question is because there are black people and in your line of thinking you always have to feel sorry for them, even though the setting has factual merrit.

    Funny, you'll not find a word of me complaining about Far Cry 2's portrayal of Africa. Guess why?! Because it doesn't drag up a bunch of stereotypes about how Africa's all full of bloodthirsty savages armed with grass-skirts and spears.

    darleysam on
    forumsig.png
  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Am I the only one that remembers these?

    SageinaRage on
    sig.gif
This discussion has been closed.