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[OMNOMNOM on] Dawn of War 2: Realistic Nids!

Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
edited March 2009 in Games and Technology
The Great Beast is Come... Devourer of Worlds
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(Shamelessly stolen from old OP)
Dawn of War 2 is the newest RTS set in the grimdark future of the 41st millennium by Relic. Described as taking the best parts of the original DoW combined with Company of Heroes, this game places an emphasis on quick action over memorizing build orders and perfecting your pixel clicking. And by that I mean that there is no base building.

The game has two distinct portions, with the single player campaign being a completely different beastie from the multiplayer. The single player campaign is for the SM only (though campaigns for other races seems like an obvious DLC money maker *hint hint*). It's a persistent rpg like squad based tactical game with emphasis on building up and using a handfull of squads for the whole campaign. For more information you can see this link, beware the minor spoilers.

In the multiplayer portion of the game you can choose from Eldar, Orks, Space Marines, and Tyranids. Beware though, Tyranids are presented accurately and realistically, which is to say, they are horrible monsters that will rip you to shreds.

Space Marines
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"The Angels of Death are come"

Tenacious beings that fight across the width and breadth of the galaxy, sowing death and destruction amongst the ever growing forces of the Hive Mind... These powerful creatures have unique DNA, their strength will become our strength. They stand in the path of the glorious Hive Mind, and so they must be eliminated... but their legacy will not be lost, for in death they shall further the all consuming goals of the Hive Mind...


Orks

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"The Green Tide shall sweep aside all in their path"

Highly numerous and powerful creatures, they fight with ferocity on a thousand battlefields, and have met the forces of the Hive Mind more than once. These foes are seemingly without number, and this is good, for the Hive Mind always hungers for more... They shall provide much sustenance to come, for their kind infests this galaxy in such numbers, as to drown all others with sheer numbers.

Eldar
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"The Children of Khaine feel the call to war once again"

Swift and deadly, but ultimately few in number and fragile, these aliens are crafty foes that are hard to come to blows with. It is only a matter of time before they interfere with the plans of the vast Hive Mind, but they still provide a tangible threat. However, as all others they shall fall to the glorious Hunger of the Hive Mind and so their potent warp-power shall strengthen the Hive.

Tyranids
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"All things shall fall to the Hive, and feed it's endless hunger"

The nigh endless appendages of the Hive Mind, dedicated to enacting it's will, our kin spread across the stars devouring all life in their path. From the lowly Ripper to the mightiest Carnifex, all have their place in the organic machine that is the Tyranid Hive, and soon the Hive Fleets shall come in such numbers, this galaxy will be stripped bare, not even bone shall be left in the wake of our hunger

(all this too)
Multiplayer

MP is handled via GFWL, there is a partial list of people's gamer tags below but the best way to meet up with people is via the G&T vent server. Check the sticky in this forum for the server info and how to donate for it's upkeep. Trust me when I say that the game is a LOT better when playing with/against fellow PA folks.

Here is a partial list of GFWL IDs copied from the last OP.
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You can get a great deal of information about the various units and abilities here: http://www.dowcodex.com/ This website pulls it's data right from the game, so in theory it should be accurate. Please keep in mind that it is a work in progress however.


Do not anger the mighty Captain K, For you will be descended upon in the time it takes for a Tiger to crush a Rabbit
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And now, we have this wonderful flowchart, courtesy of Canis Aquilus
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  • Luxurious_SpankLuxurious_Spank Registered User
    edited March 2009
    Every race entry could have been a member of the race dying. The GW art team is fantastic!

    Orks:
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    Space Marines:
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    Eldar:
    ....no pictures found yet. Must die too quickly....

    and grant me an everlasting body girded with chrome. Amen.
  • epictunaepictuna Registered User
    edited March 2009
    Pancake wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    Allow me to be the first to say


    More like GAYanids!

    Ho ho!


    Heyo!


    Although, I am a bit disappointed about the inclusion of nids and exclusion of two races that I enjoyed playing as in the first iteration of the game.

    The only thing missing from vanilla DoW1 in DoW2 is chaos.

    And I think I speak for everyone when I say chaos is terrible and should never be in the game.

    No.



    And I wasn't talking just about vanilla DoW1. I dig the Tau and Guard. They may not be the best races to play online but they are fun.

    And, from what I could tell, chaos is the zerg of DoW. 75% of the multiplayer matches include chaos. Hmmm...

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I don't think world-devouring insects are capable of heresy, they just eat.

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  • Ant000Ant000 Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Man, I bit the bullet and went from an 8800gts 320mb to a GTX 260. I was worried it would only be an incremental upgrade, but it's like night and day.




    I did it because I love you, Relic.

  • epictunaepictuna Registered User
    edited March 2009
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    I don't think world-devouring insects are capable of heresy, they just eat.

    I think world-devouring is actually considered heresy in and of itself. Then again, a LOT of things are considered heresy. Eating oreos for breakfast is likely to get you chased down by a squad of Gray Knights...


    EDIT: Nids = too much like zerg, imo.

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  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    epictuna wrote: »
    EDIT: Nids = too much like zerg, imo.

    OH NO YOU DIDN'T!

  • Ant000Ant000 Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    In the campaign, there's a tech marine who goes: "We don't have the technology to make these array things anymore" (quoting him verbatim, naturally :P).

    What's that about? How do you have all these crazy intersteller ships and space marines and yet can't make some new radar stations?

    <- (completely Warhammer illiterate).

  • edited March 2009
    what's with this dark angels crap in the OP
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  • BethrynBethryn Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    'nids don't have Kerrigan, Butch Queen of the Universe.

  • KinderpartyKinderparty Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Dareth what's up with all the crap on your face.

  • EndomaticEndomatic Registered User
    edited March 2009
  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS
    edited March 2009
    So what's with this "Oh you de-selected this squad about a second ago, but I'll go ahead and retreat that squad along with the currently selected one. No need to thank me." crap? That's pretty annoying I think.

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  • RydiakRydiak Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I personally like not being able to use a targeted ability on a squad I already have selected (i.e. using Apothecary's heal ability on a squad of Tacs I have group selected with the Apothecary). It makes me all warm and fuzzy inside that basic UI functions don't.

  • epictunaepictuna Registered User
    edited March 2009
    Aegeri wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    EDIT: Nids = too much like zerg, imo.

    OH NO YOU DIDN'T!


    I sure did. I've read my share of WH:40k fiction. 'Nids and Zerg are nigh interchangeable. I guess every space fiction needs its unstoppable swarm enemy, amirite?

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  • EndomaticEndomatic Registered User
    edited March 2009
    Yes, you are correct.

    I just did not pick on that one.

  • LurkLurk Registered User
    edited March 2009
    This thread disappointments me. The entire thread should be just "nom nom nom" and the pictures of other races should be various cooked meat dishes.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I did gather that Tyranids aren't much for talking.

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS
    edited March 2009
    Rydiak wrote: »
    I personally like not being able to use a targeted ability on a squad I already have selected (i.e. using Apothecary's heal ability on a squad of Tacs I have group selected with the Apothecary). It makes me all warm and fuzzy inside that basic UI functions don't.
    What? I haven't had that issue with banshees and the farseer, unless you're trying to target their portraits. Which, yeah, that would be nice to have. I'm sure it's a code fix or something, though.

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  • EndomaticEndomatic Registered User
    edited March 2009
    They have manners I'll have you know. They don't talk with their mouth full.

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    They don't talk period.

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  • 3clipse3clipse Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    So what's with this "Oh you de-selected this squad about a second ago, but I'll go ahead and retreat that squad along with the currently selected one. No need to thank me." crap? That's pretty annoying I think.

    You know, I thought this was just me somehow being retarded every single time it happened.

    Good to know that other people are also retarded! Or maybe there's a bug with the game or something, I dunno.

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  • EndomaticEndomatic Registered User
    edited March 2009
    I've had it happen too, I think.

  • unpurposedunpurposed Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I'm reading For The Emperor by Sandy Mitchell of the Ciaphas Cain series. It's absolutely hilarious and I never thought I'd like the IG but damn it if I don't respect those guys now.

  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    epictuna wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    EDIT: Nids = too much like zerg, imo.

    OH NO YOU DIDN'T!


    I sure did. I've read my share of WH:40k fiction. 'Nids and Zerg are nigh interchangeable. I guess every space fiction needs its unstoppable swarm enemy, amirite?

    Your survival for the next 5 minutes depends of the correct answer of the following question...

    Who came first?

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  • EndomaticEndomatic Registered User
    edited March 2009
    I'm pretty sure that it was sarcasm. It can't not be sarcasm.

    Not now... not here.

  • 3clipse3clipse Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Foefaller wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    EDIT: Nids = too much like zerg, imo.

    OH NO YOU DIDN'T!


    I sure did. I've read my share of WH:40k fiction. 'Nids and Zerg are nigh interchangeable. I guess every space fiction needs its unstoppable swarm enemy, amirite?

    Your survival for the next 5 minutes depends of the correct answer of the following question...

    Who came first?

    Here's a hint

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  • LurkLurk Registered User
    edited March 2009
    Difference between Zerg and Tyranids is that:

    Tyranids mimic technology.

    Zerg don't.

    This is ignoring the whole drama who copied who.

    EDIT: The vent server is full : (

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    So, they nerfed nids finally, I gather?

    Is it like "they're still pretty good, but its fair", or "you're the new eldar"?

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  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Raslin wrote: »
    So, they nerfed nids finally, I gather?

    Is it like "they're still pretty good, but its fair", or "you're the new eldar"?

    Nope, Croak said last thread any balance patches will come out early April at the earliest...

    However, there might be a beta for the patch, and he might tell us how to get in it...

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  • troublebrewingtroublebrewing Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Ant000 wrote: »
    In the campaign, there's a tech marine who goes: "We don't have the technology to make these array things anymore" (quoting him verbatim, naturally :P).

    What's that about? How do you have all these crazy intersteller ships and space marines and yet can't make some new radar stations?

    <- (completely Warhammer illiterate).

    it's a dark age of technology, they can't recreate a lot of things that they used to be able to make so they kind of have to just keep the old stuff up and running as best they can.

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  • epictunaepictuna Registered User
    edited March 2009
    Foefaller wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    EDIT: Nids = too much like zerg, imo.

    OH NO YOU DIDN'T!


    I sure did. I've read my share of WH:40k fiction. 'Nids and Zerg are nigh interchangeable. I guess every space fiction needs its unstoppable swarm enemy, amirite?

    Your survival for the next 5 minutes depends of the correct answer of the following question...

    Who came first?


    If I didn't know that I wouldn't have posted in the first place.



    And yes, I know that 'nids mimic technology BUT at the same time they're still an insect-like scourge race that goes around om nom noming people/planets.

    Still. 'Nids win between the two, if you ask me. They don't need more vespene gas.

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  • 3clipse3clipse Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    epictuna wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    EDIT: Nids = too much like zerg, imo.

    OH NO YOU DIDN'T!


    I sure did. I've read my share of WH:40k fiction. 'Nids and Zerg are nigh interchangeable. I guess every space fiction needs its unstoppable swarm enemy, amirite?

    Your survival for the next 5 minutes depends of the correct answer of the following question...

    Who came first?


    If I didn't know that I wouldn't have posted in the first place.



    And yes, I know that 'nids mimic technology BUT at the same time they're still an insect-like scourge race that goes around om nom noming people/planets.

    Still. 'Nids win between the two, if you ask me. They don't need more vespene gas.

    Do you know? DO YOU?

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  • MaceraMacera Registered User
    edited March 2009
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    when are they gonna put kroot in the game

    I love you.

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  • epictunaepictuna Registered User
    edited March 2009
    3clipse wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    EDIT: Nids = too much like zerg, imo.

    OH NO YOU DIDN'T!


    I sure did. I've read my share of WH:40k fiction. 'Nids and Zerg are nigh interchangeable. I guess every space fiction needs its unstoppable swarm enemy, amirite?

    Your survival for the next 5 minutes depends of the correct answer of the following question...

    Who came first?


    If I didn't know that I wouldn't have posted in the first place.



    And yes, I know that 'nids mimic technology BUT at the same time they're still an insect-like scourge race that goes around om nom noming people/planets.

    Still. 'Nids win between the two, if you ask me. They don't need more vespene gas.

    Do you know? DO YOU?

    I'd better tell you. I don't want one of you singing the song that ends the earth any time soon.
    Spoiler:


    BTW, has anyone in here ever played the tabletop version?

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  • DockenDocken Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    epictuna wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    EDIT: Nids = too much like zerg, imo.

    OH NO YOU DIDN'T!


    I sure did. I've read my share of WH:40k fiction. 'Nids and Zerg are nigh interchangeable. I guess every space fiction needs its unstoppable swarm enemy, amirite?

    Your survival for the next 5 minutes depends of the correct answer of the following question...

    Who came first?


    If I didn't know that I wouldn't have posted in the first place.



    And yes, I know that 'nids mimic technology BUT at the same time they're still an insect-like scourge race that goes around om nom noming people/planets.

    Still. 'Nids win between the two, if you ask me. They don't need more vespene gas.

    Well then you obviously realise that your original statement is ass-backwards then?

    EDIT: Beta patch... any word on when that might kick off?

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  • Corp.ShephardCorp.Shephard Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Some WoW group has a full raid it in vent. Fucking things up.

  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You know, I'm fully aware of Warhammer coming first, the tabletop history, etc. Still, as a long time Blizzard fan who's never played any Warhammer games I couldn't help it that
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    Also the idea of getting zerged by Tyranid armies just cracks me up.

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  • epictunaepictuna Registered User
    edited March 2009
    Docken wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    EDIT: Nids = too much like zerg, imo.

    OH NO YOU DIDN'T!


    I sure did. I've read my share of WH:40k fiction. 'Nids and Zerg are nigh interchangeable. I guess every space fiction needs its unstoppable swarm enemy, amirite?

    Your survival for the next 5 minutes depends of the correct answer of the following question...

    Who came first?


    If I didn't know that I wouldn't have posted in the first place.



    And yes, I know that 'nids mimic technology BUT at the same time they're still an insect-like scourge race that goes around om nom noming people/planets.

    Still. 'Nids win between the two, if you ask me. They don't need more vespene gas.

    Well then you obviously realise that you original statement is ass-backwards then?

    EDIT: Beta patch... any word on when that might kick off?


    No, because I wasn't referring to them on their fictional timeline. I was referring to the two races on their PC Strategy game release timeline. In which case the 'nids are too much like the zerg. It's that "swarm them!" play style that I don't really dig.

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  • BethrynBethryn Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
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    It was a slightly unfortunate choice of plot in that respect, though Scorched Earth tactics are hardly licensed.

  • DockenDocken Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    epictuna wrote: »
    Docken wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    epictuna wrote: »
    EDIT: Nids = too much like zerg, imo.

    OH NO YOU DIDN'T!


    I sure did. I've read my share of WH:40k fiction. 'Nids and Zerg are nigh interchangeable. I guess every space fiction needs its unstoppable swarm enemy, amirite?

    Your survival for the next 5 minutes depends of the correct answer of the following question...

    Who came first?


    If I didn't know that I wouldn't have posted in the first place.



    And yes, I know that 'nids mimic technology BUT at the same time they're still an insect-like scourge race that goes around om nom noming people/planets.

    Still. 'Nids win between the two, if you ask me. They don't need more vespene gas.

    Well then you obviously realise that you original statement is ass-backwards then?

    EDIT: Beta patch... any word on when that might kick off?


    No, because I wasn't referring to them on their fictional timeline. I was referring to the two races on their PC Strategy game release timeline. In which case the 'nids are too much like the zerg. It's that "swarm them!" play style that I don't really dig.

    That makes no sense at all... are you suggesting that a swarm army should not, you know, swarm?

    You realise that the 'PC' timeline is based off the TT right? That their strategy in DOWII is based off their strategy (and fluff) of the TT right?

    I mean, if the 'Nids were some kind of turtling army in TT then you might have a point, but since they are a swarm army in TT, it sounds kind of ridiculous that they should not continue this in DOWII...

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