Band of Brothers II: Pacific Thunderer

Pharezon

Do a bunch of movies on Kursk/Kharkov, Siege of Berlin, Siege of Budapest, Siege of Leningrad, East Prussia, Vistula-Oder, Operation Market Garden, Monte Cassino, and Anzio. And Burma.

Kazhiim

oh hey I've been rewatching band of brothers with my roommate, who has never seen it before

weird coincidence

Blake T

Band of brothers is simply amazing.

The scenes where they discover the concentration camps get my every single time.

Mister Longbaugh

The Otaku Suppository wrote: »

Ol' Sparky wrote: »

SithDrummer wrote: »

Ol' Sparky wrote: »

KrunkMcGrunk wrote: »

See, that's why I'm glad they are using With the Old Breed in their source material. It's a book written from the perspective of Eugene Sledge, who was just a grunt. You don't see many books like that. He talks more about the emotional toll of war than how many thousands of casualties the japanese tactics caused.

I think it makes for a way more interesting story.

I wonder because Spielberg and Hanks are working on it what sort of themes will carry through. I mean Band of Brothers was incredibly one sided in its portrayal of Germany and its soldiers, and its even easier to do that with the Japanese because it's a completely alien culture.

Not really, no. Primarily there was a sense of fear because they were still the enemy and would probably shoot you under most circumstances, but the scene with Malarkey and the German soldier from his hometown showed some camraderie and likeness between the two sides, and the German general's surrender in the final episode depicted the Germans as soldiers who valued honor. I wouldn't say it was one-sided at all.

Yeah that's true, I guess I was thinking more of Saving Private Ryan, which in the words of Paul Fussell is garbage after the first ten minutes as an historical movie. As blood and guts, its good.

The hell with 10 minutes. It stops being historically accurate the minute someone gets more than 10 feet up the beach within a minute of stepping off their landing craft.

i don't understand what you're saying here because, you know, they did take the beach. by advancing up it from landing craft.

A Dabble Of Thelonius

Blaket wrote: »

Band of brothers is simply amazing.

The scenes where they discover the concentration camps get my every single time.

So well done. So damned heartbreaking. Even the run up to it where they're walking through the woods and it's so dead quiet.

Hunter

Mister Longbaugh wrote: »

The Otaku Suppository wrote: »

Ol' Sparky wrote: »

SithDrummer wrote: »

Ol' Sparky wrote: »

KrunkMcGrunk wrote: »

See, that's why I'm glad they are using With the Old Breed in their source material. It's a book written from the perspective of Eugene Sledge, who was just a grunt. You don't see many books like that. He talks more about the emotional toll of war than how many thousands of casualties the japanese tactics caused.

I think it makes for a way more interesting story.

I wonder because Spielberg and Hanks are working on it what sort of themes will carry through. I mean Band of Brothers was incredibly one sided in its portrayal of Germany and its soldiers, and its even easier to do that with the Japanese because it's a completely alien culture.

Not really, no. Primarily there was a sense of fear because they were still the enemy and would probably shoot you under most circumstances, but the scene with Malarkey and the German soldier from his hometown showed some camraderie and likeness between the two sides, and the German general's surrender in the final episode depicted the Germans as soldiers who valued honor. I wouldn't say it was one-sided at all.

Yeah that's true, I guess I was thinking more of Saving Private Ryan, which in the words of Paul Fussell is garbage after the first ten minutes as an historical movie. As blood and guts, its good.

The hell with 10 minutes. It stops being historically accurate the minute someone gets more than 10 feet up the beach within a minute of stepping off their landing craft.

i don't understand what you're saying here because, you know, they did take the beach. by advancing up it from landing craft.

The movie didn't show our Time Force Soldiers from the year 3022 helping out the Allies to break the German lines. Therefor it's not historically accurate compared to the tangent earth history of Earth Gamma 2.01.

DrZiplock

A Dabble Of Thelonius wrote: »

Blaket wrote: »

Band of brothers is simply amazing.

The scenes where they discover the concentration camps get my every single time.

So well done. So damned heartbreaking. Even the run up to it where they're walking through the woods and it's so dead quiet.

I struggle with that one too.


However, without fail, I will be crying during the scenes when they're getting ready to jump from the plane for the first time.

Being shot up, burning plane all around...yea. My grandfather was a side gunner on a bomber and had to bail twice that we know of. I can't make it through that scene without needing a break to catch my breath.

Morgenstern

Making another film about the Eastern front would be pointless because Stalingrad already set the bar too high for how a war film should be made, especially one about the Eastern front.

Phonehand

god the concentration camp episode

godddddddddd

Handsome Costanza

i mean look at those dudes on the machine guns in the boats.




FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Handsome Costanza

Cristoval wrote: »

"The true story of the battle which saved Australia."

Oh, are you really so sure about that....

Yes.

DrIanMalcolm

New trailer and it's amazing

NotASenator

oh my.

QuestionMarkMan

You will note that little Timmy from Jurassic Park is in this

#pipe

fuuuuck that looks good.

is it based on a specific company like Easy or what? I wanna read up.

Veretas

#pipe wrote: »

fuuuuck that looks good.

is it based on a specific company like Easy or what? I wanna read up.

So far it looks like it's just following 3 specific soldiers. No idea whether or not they are based on real people.

HyperAquaBlast

I just got done watching Band Of Brothers on Blu-Ray just recently. If the one big thing that does get me with that version is the bullet wooshes. They sound amazing and the way its done it did get my heartbeating a bit.

I want to see a modern take on Guadalcanal and I never seen much of any Pacific war films. The Coast Guard has a hard on for Doug Munro. So thats another reason.

Weaver

goddamnit

the watermark in the upper right corner, says ace showbiz

you totally know what I thought it said

Veretas

I have a PS3 now...so I can get the blu-ray version...but I just don't have a hi-def TV

The beautiful tin box set on DVD is fine for now though

Bloods End

So...

Did God make the Japanese too?

Fandyien

Oh man awesome

I love Band of Brothers

Penguin Incarnate

Bloods End, you should bowdlerize that post ricky-tick.

DrIanMalcolm

Based on both "With The Old Breed" by E.B. Sledge and "Helmet For My Pillow" by Robert Leckie, the miniseries will follow two U.S. marines who fought and lived to write books about their experiences.

NotASenator

Veretas wrote: »

#pipe wrote: »

fuuuuck that looks good.

is it based on a specific company like Easy or what? I wanna read up.

So far it looks like it's just following 3 specific soldiers. No idea whether or not they are based on real people.

They are.

Raneados

god I love band of brothers so much

now i am hella excited

Fandyien

There's a movie on Hulu called "Return to Tarawa" where a WWII veteran goes back to Tarawa island, one of the bloodiest landings in the pacific, to hang around

It really was a fascinating idea but the execution was so-so

Helped illustrate the sheer brutality of the pacific theatre, though

Bloods End

Penguin Incarnate wrote: »

Bloods End, you should bowdlerize that post ricky-tick.

Going to be honest.

I don't know bowdlerize means.

NotASenator

Fandyien wrote: »

There's a movie on Hulu called "Return to Tarawa" where a WWII veteran goes back to Tarawa island, one of the bloodiest landings in the pacific, to hang around

It really was a fascinating idea but the execution was so-so

Helped illustrate the sheer brutality of the pacific theatre, though

You want to see this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/With_the_Marines_at_Tarawa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSEGPnj8Pa8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1VPdIRqOek

I can't necessarily say I would consider it work safe...

The film is in full color and uses no actors, making it a valuable historical document. The documentary showed more gruesome scenes of battle than other war films to the date; according to the documentary The War, President Roosevelt himself gave approval for showing the film anyway against the wishes of the military leaders. It give the US population at home a more realistic view of the war going as far as showing dead Marines floating in the water.

The download here is better resolution

http://www.archive.org/details/WiththeMarinesatTarawa

KrunkMcGrunk

DrIanMalcolm wrote: »

Based on both "With The Old Breed" by E.B. Sledge and "Helmet For My Pillow" by Robert Leckie, the miniseries will follow two U.S. marines who fought and lived to write books about their experiences.

While this is true, it also follows John Basillone, a marine who received the medal of honor.

I am re-reading With the Old Breed. Love that book. Really want to read Helmet for my Pillow

NotASenator

as you'll see from the Tarawa videos above, this series is going to be absolutely brutal in comparison to Europe.

Hunter

This will be fucking awesome.

Doodmann

DrZiplock wrote: »

A Dabble Of Thelonius wrote: »

Blaket wrote: »

Band of brothers is simply amazing.

The scenes where they discover the concentration camps get my every single time.

So well done. So damned heartbreaking. Even the run up to it where they're walking through the woods and it's so dead quiet.

I struggle with that one too.


However, without fail, I will be crying during the scenes when they're getting ready to jump from the plane for the first time.

Being shot up, burning plane all around...yea. My grandfather was a side gunner on a bomber and had to bail twice that we know of. I can't make it through that scene without needing a break to catch my breath.

Crying while watching band of brothers is the manliest kind of sad.

Spacehog85

Doodmann wrote: »

DrZiplock wrote: »

A Dabble Of Thelonius wrote: »

Blaket wrote: »

Band of brothers is simply amazing.

The scenes where they discover the concentration camps get my every single time.

So well done. So damned heartbreaking. Even the run up to it where they're walking through the woods and it's so dead quiet.

I struggle with that one too.


However, without fail, I will be crying during the scenes when they're getting ready to jump from the plane for the first time.

Being shot up, burning plane all around...yea. My grandfather was a side gunner on a bomber and had to bail twice that we know of. I can't make it through that scene without needing a break to catch my breath.

Crying while watching band of brothers is the manliest kind of sad.

No shit. I can't even begin to imagine what I would do in any of the situations depicted. I mean what the fuck causes you to man up while bullets are whizzing past your head instead of curling up into a ball in a corner.

Penguin Incarnate

Bloods End wrote: »

Penguin Incarnate wrote: »

Bloods End, you should bowdlerize that post ricky-tick.

Going to be honest.

I don't know bowdlerize means.

Fix your post with the slur, numbnuts.

Raneados

Spacehog85 wrote: »

Doodmann wrote: »

DrZiplock wrote: »

A Dabble Of Thelonius wrote: »

Blaket wrote: »

Band of brothers is simply amazing.

The scenes where they discover the concentration camps get my every single time.

So well done. So damned heartbreaking. Even the run up to it where they're walking through the woods and it's so dead quiet.

I struggle with that one too.


However, without fail, I will be crying during the scenes when they're getting ready to jump from the plane for the first time.

Being shot up, burning plane all around...yea. My grandfather was a side gunner on a bomber and had to bail twice that we know of. I can't make it through that scene without needing a break to catch my breath.

Crying while watching band of brothers is the manliest kind of sad.

No shit. I can't even begin to imagine what I would do in any of the situations depicted. I mean what the fuck causes you to man up while bullets are whizzing past your head instead of curling up into a ball in a corner.

your buddies are watching

DrZiplock

Raneados wrote: »

Spacehog85 wrote: »

Doodmann wrote: »

DrZiplock wrote: »

A Dabble Of Thelonius wrote: »

Blaket wrote: »

Band of brothers is simply amazing.

The scenes where they discover the concentration camps get my every single time.

So well done. So damned heartbreaking. Even the run up to it where they're walking through the woods and it's so dead quiet.

I struggle with that one too.


However, without fail, I will be crying during the scenes when they're getting ready to jump from the plane for the first time.

Being shot up, burning plane all around...yea. My grandfather was a side gunner on a bomber and had to bail twice that we know of. I can't make it through that scene without needing a break to catch my breath.

Crying while watching band of brothers is the manliest kind of sad.

No shit. I can't even begin to imagine what I would do in any of the situations depicted. I mean what the fuck causes you to man up while bullets are whizzing past your head instead of curling up into a ball in a corner.

your buddies are watching

and they're counting on you.


Don't underestimate the tenacity of a man's will to get a job done and keep his friends alive.

Doodmann

Plus theres the fact that the flight part of your fight or flight mechanism has been environmentally removed. You know, fuck if you do fucked if you don't kind of thing.

Hobnail

Spacehog85 wrote: »

Doodmann wrote: »

DrZiplock wrote: »

A Dabble Of Thelonius wrote: »

Blaket wrote: »

Band of brothers is simply amazing.

The scenes where they discover the concentration camps get my every single time.

So well done. So damned heartbreaking. Even the run up to it where they're walking through the woods and it's so dead quiet.

I struggle with that one too.


However, without fail, I will be crying during the scenes when they're getting ready to jump from the plane for the first time.

Being shot up, burning plane all around...yea. My grandfather was a side gunner on a bomber and had to bail twice that we know of. I can't make it through that scene without needing a break to catch my breath.

Crying while watching band of brothers is the manliest kind of sad.

No shit. I can't even begin to imagine what I would do in any of the situations depicted. I mean what the fuck causes you to man up while bullets are whizzing past your head instead of curling up into a ball in a corner.

Mr. Winters is what causes that.

"FIRE YOUR WEAPON BLIGH! GIVE IT TO 'EM BLIGH!"

lostwords

also, ronald spiers is there to terrify the shit out of you and lead by example. such a badass

DrZiplock

Go read Biggest Brother.

Dick Winters is a man beyond compare.