The War on Paint: We Put Bears on Art Men

Wildcat

That's a nice colour scheme Gabriel. :winky:

Gabriel_Pitt

Ain't it though? I'll say one thing, blood red is a stone hard bitch to paint with. If I'd known then what I knew now, I would've gone over the blood red bits with the much more amenable mechrite red and gone for a slightly more subdued look, but I'm in for the long haul now. I've got two more resin broadsides to paint up now, and the Redeemer I left unfinished when the Tau arrived.

WIckedkarma

Air Brush Questions WEEEEE!
So I have decided to try my hand at airbrushing. If you guys don't mind I could use some recommendations on a decent set up. Nothing large I will be using this at my desk inside, so the smaller the compressor the better for me.

I was looking at this seeing as I noticed a lot of people prefer the gravity feed, and this one seems to be decent and cheep which I think starting out would be good since I don't wanna kill anything expensive right off the bat, though if I'm wrong please feel free to let me know.

I seem to read some good things about this compressor as well, though I honestly don't know enough about it yet to judge it for myself so feel free to school me.

Raslin

Gabriel_Pitt wrote: »

Ain't it though? I'll say one thing, blood red is a stone hard bitch to paint with. If I'd known then what I knew now, I would've gone over the blood red bits with the much more amenable mechrite red and gone for a slightly more subdued look, but I'm in for the long haul now. I've got two more resin broadsides to paint up now, and the Redeemer I left unfinished when the Tau arrived.

It all depends what you're priming with, in this case. I've tried blood red over both black, red, and white primers. It looks wonderful over white primer(I based my entire new hellhound in blood red over white primer), but over black its really hard to work with, and its nearly the same color as the red primer I use, but everything else is harder to paint

Edit: Worst 5,000th post ever.

Gabriel_Pitt

I was painting over a black basecoat, so I used mechrite red first, then put the blood red down on top of that. It was still a bitch to get an even coat of blood red down.

As for the airbrush, oiless is good. I don't see any outright problems with it, but I am something of a neophyte. All it has to do is provide a steady supply of air at the proper pressure, so I'd say you have a pretty good deal going there.

Raslin

Gabriel_Pitt wrote: »

I was painting over a black basecoat, so I used mechrite red first, then put the blood red down on top of that. It was still a bitch to get an even coat of blood red down.

Yeah, it is a bitch. My entire IG army is red and white(or dirty white/brown, for the older guys), and I started with trying to go from black primer-mechrite red-blood red.

With the white primer, I just apply one coat of blood red, and its on very well. Of course, to get the same color effect, you may want to do white primer - mechrite red. It would probably be more subdued, and fit in better with the others. But just a suggestion

Sharp101

For blood red over black primer, put a coat of Dark Flesh down first.

Dark Flesh --> 50/50 Dark Flesh/Blood Red --> Blood Red


This is how I do almost all my reds.

Raslin

Sharp101 wrote: »

For blood red over black primer, put a coat of Dark Flesh down first.

Dark Flesh --> 50/50 Dark Flesh/Blood Red --> Blood Red


This is how I do almost all my reds.

"Database Error: Unable to connect to the database:Could not connect to MySQL"

That is a sexy shade of red on that MySQL

Edit: Working on and off now. I like it, but I am not a fan of mixing paints. If I really can't find a GW shade I'm happy with, my store is well stocked in vallejo, reaper, P3, and other paints.

Sharp101

Yeah, I'm talking to Support right now.

Gabriel_Pitt

Raslin wrote: »

Gabriel_Pitt wrote: »

I was painting over a black basecoat, so I used mechrite red first, then put the blood red down on top of that. It was still a bitch to get an even coat of blood red down.

Yeah, it is a bitch. My entire IG army is red and white(or dirty white/brown, for the older guys), and I started with trying to go from black primer-mechrite red-blood red.

With the white primer, I just apply one coat of blood red, and its on very well. Of course, to get the same color effect, you may want to do white primer - mechrite red. It would probably be more subdued, and fit in better with the others. But just a suggestion

The problem is the rest of the colors are darker shades working off of the black base coat, so priming just certain portions in white would be... difficult. That's why I went with the mechrite red underlayer compromise. If the whole thing was supposed to be bright shades of red, I would've just used white primer to begin with. Fortunately, it's only a small portion of each model that has to be red, so I'm willing to toil through the process, I'm just not happy about it.

If I had my way, the models would paint themselves and I would never even have to touch a brush.

Mr_Rose

WIckedkarma wrote: »

Air Brush Questions WEEEEE!
So I have decided to try my hand at airbrushing. If you guys don't mind I could use some recommendations on a decent set up. Nothing large I will be using this at my desk inside, so the smaller the compressor the better for me.

I was looking at this seeing as I noticed a lot of people prefer the gravity feed, and this one seems to be decent and cheep which I think starting out would be good since I don't wanna kill anything expensive right off the bat, though if I'm wrong please feel free to let me know.

I seem to read some good things about this compressor as well, though I honestly don't know enough about it yet to judge it for myself so feel free to school me.

One thing; the motor you've got there is good, but it lacks a tank. Lacking a tank means it will both be on almost all the time and potentially produce pulsed air which leads to horrible consistency. And I know that some places do sell that exact motor with a tank that it sits on top of; I have one.

WIckedkarma

See that is a perfect example of the kind thing I need to know about thank you Mr_Rose.
Anyone else?

As a side question would this be okay to use along with that compressor?
Or should I just get a compressor with a built in tank?

Sharp101

Raslin wrote: »

Sharp101 wrote: »

For blood red over black primer, put a coat of Dark Flesh down first.

Dark Flesh --> 50/50 Dark Flesh/Blood Red --> Blood Red


This is how I do almost all my reds.

"Database Error: Unable to connect to the database:Could not connect to MySQL"

That is a sexy shade of red on that MySQL

All fixed.

Ein

Sorry about the lack of updates on my Mega-SAG recently, but I had a pretty sizable paper to work on in one of my classes and I've been neck-deep in research.

I went with the vertical drop-feed design after enough people convinced me. I'm using some chain mesh on the sides to hold the shells in, since I figured It'd match what I did on my Stompa's kannon arm. It visibly houses three snotling ammunition shells, and I'll be able to use the rest around the model. I seem to have lost one, but hopefully it'll resurface!





The orange bit is a shell from this dart gun, which I bought because it was awesome and promptly broke by accident. The only reason I really used it was because I couldn't find PVC pipe the right diameter, and it's too big for most of my styrene tubing... it was the first thing I found that was roughly the right size, so I went with it.

I've got a fair bit of sprucing up to do to that back end, don't worry - it's just a chassis for me to add armor plating and worky gubbinz over.

I've been giving some thought to flipping the tread assembly over and mounting the gun down like that, as you can see below:





I think it gives the gun a better profile. The effect of it is that it angles the gun up and away from the ground, but nothing necessarily says SAG shots don't arc. I'm probably going to go with this, but I haven't made my mind up yet. If I do I have to remove the battery holder and flip it upside-down, but that shouldn't be a big deal.

Ein

Avoiding the long story that has led me up to this point for now, I have about $220-240 in credit to spend on just Warmachine models, and I've been giving some very serious thought to what I might want to play, if anything. The game itself seems pretty good, and I've played a very tiny bit via VASSAL to get a feel for things. I like it because it seems like you can play a decent-length game (hour and a half) with very few models - a warcaster and a handful of warjacks is sufficient. This'd let me go wild on the models, since I'd only have a few to work on before I have a decently-sized force.

I've narrowed my choices down to two general interests, but I can't decide between them because I don't yet know enough about the game. I figured I'd post 'em up here and get some feedback.

Option A is Privateer Mercenaries, a.k.a. pirates.



These guys have some of the coolest looking warjacks.

My initial thematic plan for these guys was to do undead pirates, just to be cool, but I've discovered that Cryx actually hasundead pirates already, so doing that would cause a good deal of confusion. Instead, I'd probably opt for Bioshock-esque conversions similar to what one might find here, only with substantially more lights. I'd probably base 'em on wood planking and paint them up to be close to the stock scheme because I do like the colors very much.

Option B is Khador



These guys appeal to my orky side. They are heavily armored, slow-moving, hard-hitting bastards who excel in beating your face in once they get close enough. I'd probably light as much of these guys as I could, too, and base them on snow. I don't have much of an explicit theme in mind for these guys, since they already have a pretty strong iconographic background of being red or olive-colored and somewhat soviet in theme.

Menoth, Cryx, Cygnar and the Retribution don't particularly interest me as far as their units and theme go, so I'm down to these two. I like the pirate merc models slightly more than Khador, but from the little I've played, it seems like pirate Mercs can be incredibly hard to use appropriately. Khador, on the other hand, seems to be 'run at X, hit X until X is dead, then run at Y', which I can sympathize with after playing orks.

I'd love to hear reasons that would help me decide between the two!

admanb

You may get more in-depth responses in the Warmachine thread, over this-a-way.

SJ

And you might want to wait until the new rules come out in January, also.

Nax

On topic!

I much prefer the flipped treads, Ein

leaf

Gabriel_Pitt wrote: »

Raslin wrote: »

Gabriel_Pitt wrote: »

I was painting over a black basecoat, so I used mechrite red first, then put the blood red down on top of that. It was still a bitch to get an even coat of blood red down.

Yeah, it is a bitch. My entire IG army is red and white(or dirty white/brown, for the older guys), and I started with trying to go from black primer-mechrite red-blood red.

With the white primer, I just apply one coat of blood red, and its on very well. Of course, to get the same color effect, you may want to do white primer - mechrite red. It would probably be more subdued, and fit in better with the others. But just a suggestion

The problem is the rest of the colors are darker shades working off of the black base coat, so priming just certain portions in white would be... difficult. That's why I went with the mechrite red underlayer compromise. If the whole thing was supposed to be bright shades of red, I would've just used white primer to begin with. Fortunately, it's only a small portion of each model that has to be red, so I'm willing to toil through the process, I'm just not happy about it.

If I had my way, the models would paint themselves and I would never even have to touch a brush.

I found red to be the easiest colours and smoothest I've ever worked with. My khorne army is black basecoated, with Scab Red, Red Gore, and maybe Blood Red if I want a highlight.

Sharp101

I think I fixed my base painting technique.



More pics in the gallery.

Nax

Sharp101 wrote: »

I think I fixed my base painting technique.

yea, i'd say

leaf

Ein wrote: »

I think it gives the gun a better profile. The effect of it is that it angles the gun up and away from the ground, but nothing necessarily says SAG shots don't arc. I'm probably going to go with this, but I haven't made my mind up yet. If I do I have to remove the battery holder and flip it upside-down, but that shouldn't be a big deal.

Just cuz' it be lightnin' type stuffs, 'dem SAG shotz still be 'eavy an' yous gots ta' angle dat gun up high if'n yous wanna be hittin' dere boyz out in tha' back.

Niklas

Sharp: While I'm not entirely fond of the colour scheme, I think your painting is excellent. The bases really catches the eye and lifts the whole model.

Well done, old chap *clap clap*

Sharp101

Niklas wrote: »

Sharp: While I'm not entirely fond of the colour scheme, I think your painting is excellent. The bases really catches the eye and lifts the whole model.

Well done, old chap *clap clap*

Now, do you just not like Salamanders? Or what I've done with them?

If it's the former, then Awesome. Thanks.

Mad Jazz

What's your process for those bases? They look terrific.

oaklore

You see the one guy with the different hat? Can someone tell me where he comes from?

pabh

oaklore wrote: »

You see the one guy with the different hat? Can someone tell me where he comes from?

Indiana Jones 5: Die in the name of the God Emporer?

-SPI-

Looking at the other guy it looks like they both came off the empire militia sprue.

Frowbakk

Or it could come from the Brettonian men At arms sprue... lots of wide brimmed helmets on that.

Sharp101

Mad Jazz wrote: »

What's your process for those bases? They look terrific.

Just a quick overview on how I did the bases

1. Primed Grey (white would have been better)
2. coat of Golden Yellow on the open area and watered down golden yellow in a few cracks
3. drybrush blazing orange fairly heavily on the open area, fill the rest of the cracks with watered down blazing orange
4. Drybrush scorched brown over open area, heavy drybrush over flat stones to clean them up
5. Light drybrush of chaos black over open area, just to get the tips. Heavy drybrush over flat stones and rim the base
6. a few grey drybrushes over the stones
7. Watered down sepia wash over everything

oaklore

Thanks guys I'll have a look.

My space marine snipers are getting those.

Maticore

The guys on here who Cast stuff:

Can you tell me what resin you use/where you get resin from? Where do you get the molds/how do you make those? Just pointing me in the direction of where you get your supplies would be best, since it's a fairly in-depth process. I want to cast something for an artistic endeavor, if you're wondering.

WIckedkarma

Maticore wrote: »

The guys on here who Cast stuff:

Can you tell me what resin you use/where you get resin from? Where do you get the molds/how do you make those? Just pointing me in the direction of where you get your supplies would be best, since it's a fairly in-depth process. I want to cast something for an artistic endeavor, if you're wondering.

Check out Eins website . He has a really nice set of videos in the tutorial section under pressure casting, that covers what you want to know.

Hirst Arts also has some really useful information on different types of casting materials and reviews and where to buy materials in the US.

Maticore

Thanks so much

Foolish Chaos

So.... I got tasked with painting a Nightbringer for my friend. The same Nightbringer which brought down 2 squads of berserkers and a dreadnought.... *grumble*..... He asked if I could do it in the style of the "official" GW paint job. Which just makes this harder.

How would you guys suggest I get the Chrome-like look the Nightbringer portrays in this photo

Spoiler:

I was thinking some clever highlighting and a gloss finish, though I'm not sure if that will work as the bottom portion of his robes don't show the same effect. Maybe a thin layer of ardcoat where necessary or something? At a loss here.

edit: I suppose that its also worth mentioning that his model is missing the actual scythes head. Seems major enough that I kind of want to fix this in some way before painting it. I know he doesn't actually use it or whatever, but just holding a stick will look rather silly.

pabh

looks like a hard black line out lining the white highlights and some of the shapes

Foolish Chaos

That might be all it is. Bah. Just gonna start basecoating, see where it goes from there.

SF_Dhalsim

It's just like how you'd do a banshee from the VC codex or an ethereal thing in general except after drybushing the middle of the model you fade it out to the other ends and finish off the middle with extreme highlighting.

Alpharius

it looks like NMM to me

WIckedkarma

' wrote:

-[arlequin;11725043']it looks like MAGIC! to me

Fixed =)