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  • azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    Well the thing with the Princess bride book....If you were like me and saw the movie first and were young enough to see it as a 'happily ever after' story then it was cemented in your mind as being just that. Then years later I read the last few pages of the book and realize they had a stupid 'life isnt fair' lesson that ruined the memory of a perfect story with a happy ending.

  • VanityPantsVanityPants Registered User regular
    I watched the Princess Bride when I was young and just read the book now, years later.

    The "life isn't fair" part of the book starts pretty early in. Besides, it's fairly open ended so if you want it to be a happy ending it still can be!

  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Registered User regular
    Just started on Moby Dick. More or less caught up to my first attempt, years back, and I'm having a good time so far.

    Still, huge. Intimidating. Ishmael is a doofus. It's gonna be a long ride.

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  • ToddJewellToddJewell Registered User regular
    I just started reading Farenheit 451, good so far.

  • VanityPantsVanityPants Registered User regular
    Just finished reading The Black Prism by Brent Weeks. What a wild ride. I really admire the fact that he knows when to reveal secrets/answers to mysteries in the book. It seems that a lot of times people like to leave mysteries hanging well past the time when the reader has already figured it out, you get to a point where the reveal either has to be completely unexpected/off the wall or it's going to flop because everyone figured it out. Weeks seems to realize that and give us the punch early, when it's still effective.

    Next up I'll be reading either the first Elric of Melnibone book or Assassin's Apprentice.

  • KamarKamar Antivillain In The BasementRegistered User regular
    Got the urge to read some YA fantasy, ended up reading all the books of the Last Apprentice/Spook's Apprentice/Wardstone Chronicles (apparently they couldn't decide on a damn name). Holy crap are they great. Great atmosphere, great worldbuilding, actually scary at times (it's dark fantasy), and perhaps most unusually for a YA series, a good romance. Really establishes the many shades of moral grey well too, while keeping the hero a good guy in a believable way.

    So yeah, if you ever read YA, read that series.

  • VanityPantsVanityPants Registered User regular
    Finished up the Elric of Melnibone book. It read fairly slowly to me for some reason but I really enjoyed the atmosphere and the way it was written.

    I'm reading The Witch of Portobello by Paulo Coelho now. It's interesting. It kind of feels like character was sacrificed in the name of cramming as much mysticism as possible into the book -- which is odd, considering the book is supposed to basically be a character study. Maybe it's just me not relating, the main character seems pretty flat at the moment.

  • Medium DaveMedium Dave Registered User regular
    Anybody have any recommends for serial killer fiction? Non-fiction is ok, too. Something in the vein of se7en, perhaps. I am kind of craving a procedural serial killer book thing.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Registered User regular
    Anybody have any recommends for serial killer fiction? Non-fiction is ok, too. Something in the vein of se7en, perhaps. I am kind of craving a procedural serial killer book thing.

    The Dexter series?

    's about a serial killer who hunts other serial killers. Black humor, moral ambiguity, weirdness in the third book which most people like to ignore.

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  • VanityPantsVanityPants Registered User regular
    The Witch of Portobello was not good at all. There was almost no story there, the book was just a prop to tout a bunch of new age mysticism. Disappointing.

    I'm reading Dark Places by Gillian Flynn now.

  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    I'm trying to read 1984 but I'm just finding it boring, and a little bit stupid.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    SkutSkut wrote:
    I'm trying to read 1984 but I'm just finding it boring, and a little bit stupid.

    That's what your authoritarian overlords want you to think. Fight the power!

    (The prose is a bit dry, but I've read it twice and found it pretty compelling each time. Different strokes and whatnot.)

    I just finished Child of God (I am on a McCarthy kick) and it was dark and seriously fucked up and really cool. Picked up Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell, and I really wanted to like it. It was interesting. The idea of pretend-magicians in 1800s England running into a real thing and then those magicians being involved in the war is cool. But the writing is so dry and encyclopedia-like that I just can't read it for more than 10 pages at a sitting, and it's not so cool that I want to be reading this book for the next 3 months.

    So I started All the Pretty Horses instead. We'll see how that goes.

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  • TabooPhantasyTabooPhantasy Registered User regular
    I recently got back in to the Pendergast books from Preston & Child. I never got through Brimstone when I began reading them years ago, but now I'm back in to it in full force.
    In the past month I've reread Relic, Reliquary, and Cabinet of Curiosities as well as gotten through Brimstone, Dance with Death, and Thunderhead for the first time. I am currently reading Still Live With Crows before moving on to Book of the Dead.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Registered User regular
    Just finished Moby Dick.

    Man, if you cut everything that was a total tangent, it'd be a novella.

    Cut everything that wasn't the main plot, you'd have five pages. Still, worth reading.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote:

    So I started All the Pretty Horses instead. We'll see how that goes.

    I have that to start too... which I will if my friend never gets back to me before the weekend. We are supposed to simultaneously read Perdido Street Station since she saw it on my shelf but I haven't heard from her for a week.

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  • BEAST!BEAST! Adventurer Adventure!!!!!Registered User regular
    SkutSkut wrote:
    I'm trying to read 1984 but I'm just finding it boring, and a little bit stupid.
    Go figure.

  • vamenvamen Registered User regular
    I haven't had any chance to read lately but this week has been a bit more clear and I finally got to put some more time into Hyperion. I am very impressed how interesting so far each characters backstory has been. Usually I struggle through backstories in books.

    Currently I am:
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  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    BEAST! wrote:
    SkutSkut wrote:
    I'm trying to read 1984 but I'm just finding it boring, and a little bit stupid.
    Go figure.

    It's probably because I'm over-analyzing things as I'm reading it I'll admit.

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  • vamenvamen Registered User regular
    Tevin wrote:
    Dan Simmons seems to be a name I hear a lot when it comes to horror. I have his books Hyperion

    Stop what you're doing and go read Hyperion. Do it! Don't feel compelled to read all four the Hyperion books, but at least the first one and probably almost certainly the second. Really, really good stuff. Hyperion isn't horror, but it's phenomenal science fiction.

    Just finished.
    That was the first sci-fi I've enjoyed since Dune. I'm a really hard sell on sci-fi. I was ready to go right to the next one but they only have Kindle versions of books 1, 3 and 4, but not 2. Odd. I guess I'll have to get the paperback =)

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  • verbelverbel Registered User regular
    I just finished reading Hyperion as well. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Are the rest of the books in the series as good? I am really interested in where it goes from there.

    I just finished reading the First Law series by Joe Abercrombie and I enjoyed them quite a bit. Its definetly not a happy go lucky kind of story though. Then ending left me feeling kinda sad and angry at the same time.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    i just started Jonathen Franzen's Freedom, which is actually turning out to be very enjoyable.

  • EncEnc FloridaRegistered User regular
    Been working my way through Linda Fairstein's Alex Cooper mysteries. On Cold Hit right now.

    It's amazing how surprising and scary the world was when all you have to work with on your person was a pager. Cell Phones really did change everything.

    "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
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  • StraygatsbyStraygatsby Registered User regular
    verbel wrote:
    I just finished reading Hyperion as well. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Are the rest of the books in the series as good? I am really interested in where it goes from there.

    I just finished reading the First Law series by Joe Abercrombie and I enjoyed them quite a bit. Its definetly not a happy go lucky kind of story though. Then ending left me feeling kinda sad and angry at the same time.

    People tend to be polarized by the rest of the Hyperion cantos. I think a safe rule is to read the 2nd book (basically the second half of Hyperion) and then if you're really digging the whole thing, go for the Endymion books but try and keep an open mind. I think a lot of people get turned off by the Endymion books.

    It's a weird series, to be sure. Simmons can be an infuriating writer. You'll be chugging along devouring the dense deliciousness of his story and then he'll send you a brief telegram explaining 'my brain has decided to deviate from pattern and go this way, sincerely, fuck you.' It's sort of like reading Neil Stephenson's written history but catching that shift in the middle of a series or book as opposed to over the course of various series.

    I still really like all four books, and I also would suggest his more recent books that I have now totally forgotten the names of (Ilium maybe). They're very fun and very smart and very bendy. I'll edit this with the names unless someone remembers them before I get back. My brain is a colander with quarter sized holes when it comes to book details sometimes.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    SkutSkut wrote:
    BEAST! wrote:
    SkutSkut wrote:
    I'm trying to read 1984 but I'm just finding it boring, and a little bit stupid.
    Go figure.

    It's probably because I'm over-analyzing things as I'm reading it I'll admit.

    I would probably find it hard to read either 1984 or Brave New World anymore because those books get co-opted by complete idiots to score political points.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote:
    SkutSkut wrote:
    BEAST! wrote:
    SkutSkut wrote:
    I'm trying to read 1984 but I'm just finding it boring, and a little bit stupid.
    Go figure.

    It's probably because I'm over-analyzing things as I'm reading it I'll admit.

    I would probably find it hard to read either 1984 or Brave New World anymore because those books get co-opted by complete idiots to score political points.

    I found it a bit, I dunno, melodramatic? Like Orwell actually though what he wrote would come about and he has this mortal fear of it, but from our perspective his fears seem overwrought. Similar to HP Lovecraft in that way, actually, in the way that his books are based off his terror regarding mixing of the races etc, and now they seem overwrought in the same vein.

  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Registered User regular
    Snuff just shipped on Amazon.

    Newest Discworld. So excited.

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  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    Solar wrote:
    ElJeffe wrote:
    SkutSkut wrote:
    BEAST! wrote:
    SkutSkut wrote:
    I'm trying to read 1984 but I'm just finding it boring, and a little bit stupid.
    Go figure.

    It's probably because I'm over-analyzing things as I'm reading it I'll admit.

    I would probably find it hard to read either 1984 or Brave New World anymore because those books get co-opted by complete idiots to score political points.

    I found it a bit, I dunno, melodramatic? Like Orwell actually though what he wrote would come about and he has this mortal fear of it, but from our perspective his fears seem overwrought. Similar to HP Lovecraft in that way, actually, in the way that his books are based off his terror regarding mixing of the races etc, and now they seem overwrought in the same vein.

    For me it's more the fact that a third party nation like "The Party" or whatever it's called would be crushed in a matter of weeks if not days if they were constantly waging war with the entire rest of the world, or what I assume is the rest of the world. That and a bunch of things in the book are outdated, like the telescreens that constantly watch and hear everyone forever would require some huge monitoring force and could in no way address a single individual by name and have them do things on command during programs made for everyone at the given time of day. The whole anti-sex league thing is a bit silly too, seeing as no abstinence program has worked ever.

    But that's just me nitpicking things in an otherwise well written, if not as you said, melodramatic book.

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  • VanguardVanguard for the Night is Dark and Full of Big Areolas Registered User regular
    Of the two, Brave New World is the better book, I believe. I've always interpreted 1984 as dystopian novel about the failure of love. I'm just not convinced by it, whereas Huxley's book more closely resembles our current culture of instant gratification.

    Besides, Huxley is a better writer.

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  • spcmnspffspcmnspff Registered User regular
    chiasaur11 wrote:
    Just finished Moby Dick.

    Man, if you cut everything that was a total tangent, it'd be a novella.

    Cut everything that wasn't the main plot, you'd have five pages. Still, worth reading.

    You plowed through it compared to me! Took me about three months... But yeah, definitely not a book to read straight through for the sake of the narrative alone (although the narrative is outstanding). Somehow the digressions are what I loved most though. It felt like an entire universe was presented, and in the midst of it all, the search for that legendary whale.

  • ElJeffeElJeffe Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Vanguard wrote:
    Of the two, Brave New World is the better book, I believe. I've always interpreted 1984 as dystopian novel about the failure of love. I'm just not convinced by it, whereas Huxley's book more closely resembles our current culture of instant gratification.

    Besides, Huxley is a better writer.

    I think modern culture (at least American) is actually an amalgam of the two. You have a lot of tune-in-turn-off stuff going on and, as you said, instant gratification. You also have a real push for increased security with little concern for how it effects personal freedom as long as it's perceived as someone else's personal freedom. The intelligence programs implemented over the course of the past decade certainly have a Big Brother flair. Not that I think we're close at all to the upshot of either author's vision, but I think they were both fairly prescient in their own ways, at least in the way they each established how individuals' drive for Goal X can lead to some pretty terrible results.

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  • VanguardVanguard for the Night is Dark and Full of Big Areolas Registered User regular
    For sure, but there's an element of paranoia that permeates 1984 that I don't think is present in the world, except among fringe elements. The whole business of technology has obviously increased government's surveillance and whatnot, but I still think we lean more towards soma and sex-without-love than falling in love as a revolutionary act, which is how it gets portrayed in Orwell's world.

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  • EncEnc FloridaRegistered User regular
    I think the biggest failure of 1984 is to account for the manpower required to build such a state. It's really impossible in any sense, and a modern audience familiar with the capabilities and failures of surveillance doesn't hold such possibilities as quite so frightening than when it was a strange, futuristic concept. After seeing the collapse of the Soviet Union, it no longer seems quite as relevant. With America's decline as the remaining hyper-power, the concept of three nations really no longer seems plausible.

    Brave New World resonates more now because it is an easy, hands off approach that (one could argue) is already being used on the digital generation (Social Media is the soma of all teenagers right now, you could blow up a car next to them and they would tweet about it before helping people). Globalization makes for a more plausible distopia.

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  • EmruggsEmruggs Registered User regular
    Finished The Sound and the Fury last week and started Sanctuary, also by Faulkner, this week. I'm taking a Faulkner class and an Orwell class as well. For the Orwell class, we're just starting The Road to Wigan Pier, after just finishing Keep the Aspidistra Flying. The main character in Keep the Aspidistra Flying is a miserable little whelp, hard to like very much. The Faulkner class is terrific, taught by a guy who's been teaching Faulkner for nearly 40 years.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Registered User regular
    Vanguard wrote:
    For sure, but there's an element of paranoia that permeates 1984 that I don't think is present in the world, except among fringe elements. The whole business of technology has obviously increased government's surveillance and whatnot, but I still think we lean more towards soma and sex-without-love than falling in love as a revolutionary act, which is how it gets portrayed in Orwell's world.

    Yeah. The paranoia in, say, Pattern Recognition feels more modern.

    Not that The Government is tracking you, actively. But that people could.

    Not even influential people or summat. Random jerks.

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  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    Well I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought 1984 was a bit silly, I thought I was missing something with it.

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  • tapeslingertapeslinger utter Yog-Sothothery mmm, soulsRegistered User regular
    Kamar wrote:
    Got the urge to read some YA fantasy, ended up reading all the books of the Last Apprentice/Spook's Apprentice/Wardstone Chronicles (apparently they couldn't decide on a damn name). Holy crap are they great. Great atmosphere, great worldbuilding, actually scary at times (it's dark fantasy), and perhaps most unusually for a YA series, a good romance. Really establishes the many shades of moral grey well too, while keeping the hero a good guy in a believable way.

    So yeah, if you ever read YA, read that series.

    Late to the party but I LOVE THAT SERIES! Wanted to pick up the hardcover book on the old spook's adventures too but have not yet.

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  • EncEnc FloridaRegistered User regular
    Next up on my queue is either Rothfuss's The Name of the Wind or Umberto Eco's The Name of the Rose. Suggestions as to which to go for first?

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  • CheeselikerCheeseliker Registered User regular
    Rothfuss' storytelling is pretty fantastic. I'm 3/4 of the way through The Wise Man's Fear right now, and it's very good.

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  • BEAST!BEAST! Adventurer Adventure!!!!!Registered User regular
    I suggest you burn Rothfuss' shit book.

  • EncEnc FloridaRegistered User regular
    Such polarizing feelings cannot exist in this thread. Take these two knives, whoever still breathes by page 44 will have the correct opinion.

    "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
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