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Why is the US military budget so large?

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  • Darkchampion3dDarkchampion3d Registered User
    He rolled in the costs of Iraq and Afghanistan into the actual Defense budget instead of emergency spending bullshit.

    So really, the reason it totals out to a 4% increase is because it actually takes the entire cost into account. If you pull out the war spending and drop it into a magical emergency bucket like Bush, it is indeed a deep cut.

    Which is good. So on the surface, it's very hard to say he's being weak on defense (he increased spending 4% over Bush!) while underneath he's actually taken a rather large bite out of it.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    jothki wrote: »
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    I was about to say that, magnetic latches.

    Although they might cause problems with other things (and would also latch to the dryer tumbler)

    Maybe electromagnetic latches, then? You could remove the battery when you wash them.
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    We'll need to put together a fact finding commission on this.
    Here's your blank check, get to work.

    Ringo wrote: »
    Well except what see317 said. That guy's always wrong.
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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    I was about to say that, magnetic latches.

    Although they might cause problems with other things (and would also latch to the dryer tumbler)

    Maybe electromagnetic latches, then? You could remove the battery when you wash them.
    Spoiler:
    We'll need to put together a fact finding commission on this.
    Here's your blank check, get to work.

    Seriously, that sounds exactly like the type of "ooh shiny" shit the military loves.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Registered User regular
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    I was about to say that, magnetic latches.

    Although they might cause problems with other things (and would also latch to the dryer tumbler)

    Maybe electromagnetic latches, then? You could remove the battery when you wash them.
    Spoiler:
    We'll need to put together a fact finding commission on this.
    Here's your blank check, get to work.

    Seriously, that sounds exactly like the type of "ooh shiny" shit the military loves.

    See: Laser-firing Large Aircraft, as defended by Sen. Lieberman.

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  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    electricitylikesme wrote: »
    The US military has a research project building a material from nanotubes that will allow a soldier to spider-man climb a vertical wall at about 5m/s (you peel off the material quite easily, but it won't slide/fall off).

    We need to be devoting all of our money to this project. RIGHT NOW.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    electricitylikesme wrote: »
    This would actually be possible. Gecko's feet are basically nano-roughened so they stick to anything. The US military has a research project building a material from nanotubes that will allow a soldier to spider-man climb a vertical wall at about 5m/s (you peel off the material quite easily, but it won't slide/fall off).

    So...I'm thinking you could have two pieces of this that mate in order to provide a good contact. No sound, and probably pretty good at staying closed.

    I assume that 5 m/s is a typo, since that's like a reasonably fast sprint (about 10 mph).

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  • ToxTox I kill threads Let Piggy Chimp decideRegistered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    electricitylikesme wrote: »
    This would actually be possible. Gecko's feet are basically nano-roughened so they stick to anything. The US military has a research project building a material from nanotubes that will allow a soldier to spider-man climb a vertical wall at about 5m/s (you peel off the material quite easily, but it won't slide/fall off).

    So...I'm thinking you could have two pieces of this that mate in order to provide a good contact. No sound, and probably pretty good at staying closed.

    I assume that 5 m/s is a typo, since that's like a reasonably fast sprint (about 10 mph).

    It's nano tech, man, it's just that awesome.

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  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    Darkchampion3d wrote: »
    He rolled in the costs of Iraq and Afghanistan into the actual Defense budget instead of emergency spending bullshit.

    So really, the reason it totals out to a 4% increase is because it actually takes the entire cost into account. If you pull out the war spending and drop it into a magical emergency bucket like Bush, it is indeed a deep cut.

    Which is good. So on the surface, it's very hard to say he's being weak on defense (he increased spending 4% over Bush!) while underneath he's actually taken a rather large bite out of it.

    No, the Non-Iraq/Afghanistan war budget was $513b this year and it will be $534b in 2010. Obama folded the Iraq/Afghanistan wars into the total budget for purposes of calculating the deficit, which Bush cleverly did not do, but the 4% is on top of the fixed military budget, not the Iraq/Afghanistan stuff.

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  • EvigilantEvigilant Registered User regular
    RocketSauce wrote: »
    electricitylikesme wrote: »
    The US military has a research project building a material from nanotubes that will allow a soldier to spider-man climb a vertical wall at about 5m/s (you peel off the material quite easily, but it won't slide/fall off).

    We need to be devoting all of our money to this project. RIGHT NOW.

    I believe that's part of a DARPA project. Most of DARPA projects don't enter into military R&D until it is feasible to do so (though one can argue that DARPA is military R&D). DARPA researches and develops technologies that are far off, to facilitate and understand the changes or possible advances by pursuing those technologies. Then a branch of the military decides if it would like to further research and develop those technologies into fielding.

    Most of them are cost prohibitive to fully implement and field, so it usually takes a few years before most of DARPA tech gets seeded down into use.

    See: Exoskeletons, better prosthetic limb replacements, advanced computing, lasers, etc....

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  • zakkielzakkiel Registered User
    electricitylikesme wrote: »
    Tox wrote: »
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    It's a great material, but not stealthy at all.

    Someone needs to figure out stealthcro.

    hurry up and trademark that word. You'll make millions.
    This would actually be possible. Gecko's feet are basically nano-roughened so they stick to anything. The US military has a research project building a material from nanotubes that will allow a soldier to spider-man climb a vertical wall at about 5m/s (you peel off the material quite easily, but it won't slide/fall off).

    So...I'm thinking you could have two pieces of this that mate in order to provide a good contact. No sound, and probably pretty good at staying closed.

    Could, but each uniform would probably cost $Texas.

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  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    Tox wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    electricitylikesme wrote: »
    This would actually be possible. Gecko's feet are basically nano-roughened so they stick to anything. The US military has a research project building a material from nanotubes that will allow a soldier to spider-man climb a vertical wall at about 5m/s (you peel off the material quite easily, but it won't slide/fall off).

    So...I'm thinking you could have two pieces of this that mate in order to provide a good contact. No sound, and probably pretty good at staying closed.

    I assume that 5 m/s is a typo, since that's like a reasonably fast sprint (about 10 mph).

    It's nano tech, man, it's just that awesome.
    Oh he's right - no - it's like, 0.5 m/s. Still. ON A VERTICAL SURFACE.

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