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Most Awesome Electric Car . . . ever?
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How does hydrogen not run into all those same problems, then tack on infrastructural costs?
Unfortunately, none of those technologies are that good yet. Hybrid engines only get a slight bump in mileage over gas engines in the same vehicle. Sure the Prius gets 48 highway MPG, but even a 2000 Celica GTS with 180 horse gets 41 MPG on the highway. Hydrogen still requires a breakthrough to be feasible. It's not a matter of incremental change until we see H2 vehicles on the road as even the whole "How do we get hydrogen to the public?" question remains unanswered.
In my opinion, the electrics look like they're closest. Sure, we need to change to nuclear based electricity and battery life, temperature range, vehicle range, toxicity of the batteries, price, and other things need to be improved, but that's only a matter of refinement.
Also, if you want to help the environment, keep the Accord and stay current with the maintenance. Underinflated tires, dirty air filters, and old spark plugs chew noticeably into your fuel economy.
Much smaller environmental footprint and much easier to adapt to the current distribution model. It makes more sense to have the same trucks carry liquid hydrogen to a hydrogen-converted gas station than to convert each gas station into a mini power station/battery borrowing service.
The only real crutch to hydrogen is refining it in mass quantities, which can be accomplished gradually as the market builds.
I'd lump the price of gas being a symptom of hyperinflation because of the weakening of the US dollar globally, coupled with mega-super-fucking-dumb greed.
Then you would be wrong. Futures trading drove it up higher then it should have been, but when the global economy recovers it will be 4+ a gallon.
It will come back up significantly. It probably won't be in the 4.00-4.50-5.00 range we saw last summer, but 2.50-3.00-3.50 isn't out of the question.
I agree. The $5 mark is completely asinine though, hence inflation coupled with greed.
But unless I've made some sort of horrible error or awful assumption in my calculations for electricity cost, the recharging is very cheap comparatively to buying gas. If a company could come out with a reasonably priced vehicle like this, I think it could be competitive.
You can't just go to a standard mechanic with a car that's got a market penetration of 20000 maximum. How much do you think a Tesla dealership will charge you for labor, given that you've already proven you're willing to drop 50 grand on a car?
There's also the parts other than the drivetrain, the parts that go first on most cars anyway. Unless the Tesla cars are using suspension parts that are found in cars with more than 200 total units on the road, you're looking at paying 4 or 5 times as much for something like shocks, which incidentally wear faster the heavier the car.
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Only for the drivetrain. And that warranty is actually matched by several manufacturers already.
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You could always just rent a car if you are taking a road trip once a year or so.
My father had an old 92 Civic VX, which had Honda's (in)famous VTEC set for economy mode, and VTEC Kicked In at all of 2000rpms. It might have only had 88hp or so, but that fucker got 60mpg highway.
I would buy the shit out of one if I could find one now.
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Plus I don't know how keen a lot of companies would be (basically) paying for their employees' fuel.
Some companies have programs to pay for transit ridership among employees. This would kind of be along that route, though I doubt it would continue if electric cars actually replaced ICE cars. Still, it could just work like a parking meter. Put in $0.75 and get however many watts.
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I think it would be keen to throw companies a tax credit for it far a decade or so. Let everyone get used to it, and then just cut it out of the budget, or write it to sunrise. Either they accept it as part of compensation, or they bill folks for it. Some form of at work recharging would really be very helpful.
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oh god kill it with fire D:
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Seriously? I saw a few on my local streets and they look awesome.
Awesome:
NOT awesome:
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I'm actually thinking of going this route:
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Not as awesome as #1 but still several orders of magnitude more awesome than #2.
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The problem with the Tesla is that charging it uses electricity, Nationally, we do not have the capacity to keep power active for homes and businesses to continue growing. Greeners say no Coal, no Nuclear, only wind and water generated electricity. My state has said no new power plants, only wind farms. Wind does not always blow and electricity cannot be stored at that scale.
So millions of new cars on the road all pulling a 440w line would mean huge jumps in kWh costs and likely outages as we have no available power for some places.
This would put all existing power plants working past capacity, using more coal and producing more waste materials, ultimately leaving us in no better shape than we were with gas engines.
Electric cars are no better than the E85 crap a few years ago where we burned our food for fuel. Hydrogen is the most logical answer for our future motoring.
No one who matters thankfully.
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most people would be charging their cars at night, during off peak hours. It helps mitigate it somewhat, but there would eventually need to be more capacity. Some states are also not retarded, so electric car might fair better in those locations. If hawaii had sufficient nuclear power, electric cars would be hugely attractive. Probably even if they are just shipping boatloads of coal rather than gasoline.
It's not going to happen everywhere at the same rate
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Except, y'know, people who vote, and community action groups who successfully lobby politicians to halt production of DoE facilities necessary to expansion of nuclear power, and stuff like that.
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I think you might be referring to this,
Which is not the same thing you just said, because that would be an amazingly stupid law.
But with wind power, for example, nights are not peak generating times.
Cite? Because I'm pretty sure the wind doesn't really care if its sunny or not. Photovoltaics, sure, but cold fronts move regardless of the time of day.
The reason that's ironic is that I work for one of the largest worldwide manufacturers of drilling equipment for the oil and gas industry.
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Nuclear, Hydrodynamic, Geothermal, Tidal and Nuclear all don't care about the time of day.
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Nuclear power, so awesome it's mentioned twice.
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I would, but I don't really care that much. I've read in a few wind power studies that suggest wind tends to blow more in the daytime, due to heat from the sun and all of that. Also that's what I learned in my into to meteorology class, if I remember correctly. (It was an elective, I was a freshman. That may or may not be true.)
Of course not, which is awesome. Unfortunately none are being given the emphasis that wind generation is.