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[DS&WII]Final Fantasy:Crystal Chronicles - Echoes of Time

ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
edited May 2009 in Games and Technology
There hasn't been a thread for this so I thought I'd make one.
This is my first OP for a single game so hope I included enough information (Hopefully not too much...)

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Echoes of Time


Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of time is square-enix's latest entry into the Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles series.

What is this game about?

In EoT, you play as a 16 year old just coming of age and living in an isolated village. You start out seeking a rare medicine to cure a young girl suffering from something known as “crystal sickness”. This quest leads you to meet an old man named Larkeicus, and discover the truth about the village in the forest.

What about the systems?


FFCC: Echoes of Time (Wii) is almost exactly the same as FFCC: Echoes of Time (DS). The Wii version even has a similar interface (two screens appearing on your TV, very similar layout to the DS version, etc). The only real differences are:

- You can not connect multiple Wii using Local Wireless
- You can get “Mii Masks” in the Wii version (which can be traded to the DS)
- The graphics, while sharing a similar style, are slightly more refined.

Otherwise, they’re the same game pretty much. They’re also cross compatible, either local wireless Wii to however many DS, or Nintendo WiFi Connection with as many Wii and DS games.
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Multiplayer


Do I need a copy of this game for every player?

Yes. Each player will need his own copy, be it DS or WiFi.

Local multiplayer is only:

1 Wii and 1-3 DSs with the Wii hosting or 1-4 DSs. 2 Wiis cannot connect together and there is no multiplayer on a single Wii system. Everyone playing needs to have their own copy of the game.

For online multiplayer you can have any combination of Wii and DS and anyone can be hosting.

How does multiplayer work?


Instead of using AI characters, you can have a multiplayer of party up to 4 people. You can play using local wireless (Only one Wii, as many DS players as you have slots). Alternatively, you can play on Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection. This allows as many Wii or DS players, up to the maximum. No AI characters are permitted.

Any game progress is ONLY saved for the host player, and you will join his position in the storyline. However, any character progress is still saved. This means that any changes in items, experience points, money, etc, that are made are kept.

Is there PvP in this game?


While playing multiplayer there are new quests available. These are PvP minigames, and PvP Gladiator.


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How about Actually Playing the game?

Starting your character


You can choose one of the four races, and either male or female. This will decide what equipment you can wield and what abilities you gain when you level up. In general, weapons are NOT limited to a specific character. There are a few exceptions, but there is no problem with a Clavat using a staff, for example. However, you will only get all the abilities, combinations, charge, and charge breaks for weapons you specialize in.

Clavats – High physical stats, high magical stats, specializes in swords
Selkies – Mediocre physical stats, poor magical stats, specializes in bows and rackets, double-jump
Yukes – Poor physical stats, very high magical stats, specializes in staves
Lilties – Very high physical stats, poor magical stats, specializes in spears and hammers

After beating the game at least once, you can start a New Game+. This allows you to choose a higher difficulty mode. This also allows you to choose another character as the “main” character.


Equipment


Equipment has a lot of intricacies here and there in an almost diablo-esque fashion, so here is a nice long explanation of it all. I'm going to put it into a spoiler because it is ridiculously long and slightly intimidating at first glance. -
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Magic


Echoes of time Uses mostly the same magic system as the previous games although magicite and SP have been replaced with good ol' MP. You hold down a button and move a ring to a target, when released the magic will be cast. All levels of magic are available however. This is done by "stacking" magic. Cast a fire spell, but press a button to hold that ring. Cast another fire spell on top of the previous ring and fire becomes Fira.

What are the magic combinations?


Going to plop this into a spoiler as well since it's fairly long
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So how about some Friend codes eh?


If we want to get some multiplayer going, leave your friend code in the thread and I'll edit it into the OP here. If I haven't gotten it up after a day or so just shoot me a PM.

DS Friend Codes -
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Wii Friend Codes -
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  • DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User
    edited April 2009
    So how does the game play? Do you have to stick close at all times to progress? This looks like it plays like a more action oriented PSO. Am I right in thinking this?

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  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I haven't actually tried the multiplayer yet so I don't know about that one >.>

    But yah, it feels like a mix of Final Fantasy, Zelda, And PSO. It's a standard action rpg with the final fantasy style, but alot of puzzle solving in a zelda style (Move blocks onto switches, cast blizzard on a blue switch and fire on a red switch to open a door, ect.). Along with some heavy customization in terms of gear and abilities.

  • DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User
    edited April 2009
    Yeah, after reading some reviews, this really is sounding like Diablo/PSO, i'm definitely interested. Have you tried to go online at all? If so ,how easy is it to find a party online?

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  • commathecommathe Registered User
    edited April 2009
    It reminds me a little bit of the .hack games, but with a jump button.

    I havent played multiplayer either, but I did make another character for the single player. The AI is really bad. Luckily you can switch between characters at any time.

    Accepting quests in town is a little odd... I accepted one and was instantly sent to an area to kill a number of squirrels with fire magic. Once I killed the right number the quest completed and I was back in town. Also it didnt send my party with me, just the character I took the quest with.

    Also you apparently don't choose a class? Just a gender and race. I havent played any of the other crystal chronicles, so maybe this is all normal.

  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Yeah, after reading some reviews, this really is sounding like Diablo/PSO, i'm definitely interested. Have you tried to go online at all? If so ,how easy is it to find a party online?

    From what I've read it's pretty good but almost something I wouldn't recommend. You'll occasionally get landed in a party with some level 99 guy from japan who will spam pvp quests and take your gil =P

  • DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User
    edited April 2009
    *Counts* three people.

    If I grab this tomorrow, we should put a party together. I'm very much a noob though, as i've never played a Crystal Chronicles game, so you'll have to drag me along.

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  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    *Counts* three people.

    If I grab this tomorrow, we should put a party together. I'm very much a noob though, as i've never played a Crystal Chronicles game, so you'll have to drag me along.

    This is my first too so I'm just learning the ropes as well. It's fun trying to balance between this, GTA:CW, Pokemon Platinum, and Diablo 2 with our PA crew :P

    But sounds like a plan. I know a couple more people over in the final fantasy mega-thread had grabbed this so hopefully we can get some nice groups going.

  • DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User
    edited April 2009
    Zerokku wrote: »
    *Counts* three people.

    If I grab this tomorrow, we should put a party together. I'm very much a noob though, as i've never played a Crystal Chronicles game, so you'll have to drag me along.

    This is my first too so I'm just learning the ropes as well. It's fun trying to balance between this, GTA:CW, Pokemon Platinum, and Diablo 2 with our PA crew :P

    But sounds like a plan. I know a couple more people over in the final fantasy mega-thread had grabbed this so hopefully we can get some nice groups going.

    Call 'em over, let's get this party started.

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  • commathecommathe Registered User
    edited April 2009
    Where do you find your friend code? I havent explored the depths of their menu system entirely. It is convolutionary!

  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Okay once you've gotten on wi-fi once go to a save point and go to multiplayer. Go to the Nintendo WFC menu, and on that menu, to the friend menu. On that menu there will be your friend roster, and you'll find your own code on that.

    As for the question if you have to stick together. The answer is... No! I was in town while in a random wi-fi game and the other dude went to the world map without having any effect on me.

  • VelmeranVelmeran Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Good game, been playing it with the wife for a while now a little bit at a time. The graveyard was probably the most frustrating since trying to explain to the wife about using holy on the monsters = good times and that she needs to stay near the magic shield barrel or die from poison was tough. It basically was a level designed to force you to play a certain way, unlike all the levels before so she was frustrated with it. But we beat it and are past that now.

    The only good items to craft are drops from hidden chest (search everywhere in the forest levels, so many chest on the upper level you can't see normally) or quest rewards, I wouldn't bother buying any of the scrolls from the shop vendor since the top items will just be for sale in the weapons shop after you finish the next story line mission.

    quest are fun some times, other times they are absolutely terrible if your playing with less then skilled team mates. I haven't tried any of the PVP quest for obvious reasons.

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  • BTPBTP Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Added this thread to the NWC thread. It's in both the DS and Wii sections, but if there's some kind of need for a separate thread for the DS version and another for the Wii version, I'll try to keep an eye out so I can update it. Happy playing! :D

    Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection & DS High Scores Thread
    I WILL NOT BE DOING 3DS FOR NWC THREAD. SOMEONE ELSE WILL HAVE TO TAKE OVER.
    Spoiler contains Friend Codes. Won't you be my friend?
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  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    BTP wrote: »
    Added this thread to the NWC thread. It's in both the DS and Wii sections, but if there's some kind of need for a separate thread for the DS version and another for the Wii version, I'll try to keep an eye out so I can update it. Happy playing! :D

    Nah, it's literally the exact same game minus a few UI differences.

  • TimFijiTimFiji Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I am really enjoying this game with my friends who got it for the Wii ( I have it for DS). Sometimes we get some lag. While annoying the game is still playable. Anyone else getting lag?

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    More people should get this.

    I'm kind of bummed the Wii version doesn't sport the same visuals as the original. The backgrounds were gorgeous, high level spells were spectacular and enemies were frighteningly intimidating. This combined with the fact that local play requires multiple copies, even on the Wii, and the lack of portability, I don't see any reason to get the Wii version over the DS version.

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  • METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User
    edited April 2009
    Chen wrote: »
    More people should get this.

    I'm kind of bummed the Wii version doesn't sport the same visuals as the original. The backgrounds were gorgeous, high level spells were spectacular and enemies were frighteningly intimidating. This combined with the fact that local play requires multiple copies, even on the Wii, and the lack of portability, I don't see any reason to get the Wii version over the DS version.
    Yeah, if this had graphics like the GC version I would be much more interested in it. Also, the soundtrack to the first FFCC was fantastic. Is the atmosphere in this one comparable at all?


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  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    METAzraeL wrote: »
    Chen wrote: »
    More people should get this.

    I'm kind of bummed the Wii version doesn't sport the same visuals as the original. The backgrounds were gorgeous, high level spells were spectacular and enemies were frighteningly intimidating. This combined with the fact that local play requires multiple copies, even on the Wii, and the lack of portability, I don't see any reason to get the Wii version over the DS version.
    Yeah, if this had graphics like the GC version I would be much more interested in it. Also, the soundtrack to the first FFCC was fantastic. Is the atmosphere in this one comparable at all?

    This is the first one I've played but I have to say I like the atmosphere, and the soundtrack is simply excellent.

  • Bobkins FlymoBobkins Flymo FF69B4 Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 2009
    Two questions: is the Square tax in effect and does this support voice chat?

    I'm pretty tempted by this.

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  • ThatOneYoYoGuyThatOneYoYoGuy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Awesome, been waiting for this thread. However, since I upgraded my router to WPA, I'm left without a way to connect. They stopped selling the USB Dongle, right?

  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Awesome, been waiting for this thread. However, since I upgraded my router to WPA, I'm left without a way to connect. They stopped selling the USB Dongle, right?

    Yah but you might be able to find it used at a gamestop like I did. Don't worry if it doesn't have the CD you can download everything from the nintendo website.

  • Lost CanuckLost Canuck Super Escape Artist Dr. Vundabar's Murder MachineRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Two questions: is the Square tax in effect and does this support voice chat?

    I'm pretty tempted by this.

    The only player-to-player communication in this game is a bunch of pre-written messages that you select from a list.

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  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Two questions: is the Square tax in effect and does this support voice chat?

    I'm pretty tempted by this.

    Of course, and no. Probably because of the wii which wouldnt have the same capabilities for voice chat as the DS.
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Two questions: is the Square tax in effect and does this support voice chat?

    I'm pretty tempted by this.

    The only player-to-player communication in this game is a bunch of pre-written messages that you select from a list.

    If theyre on your friends list you can have more customized messages though.

  • Bobkins FlymoBobkins Flymo FF69B4 Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 2009
    Or I'll just get on Vent and communicate like a normal human being.

    The Wii does have voice chat now, so it wouldn't be a stretch.

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  • commathecommathe Registered User
    edited April 2009
    It was $39 and comes with Squeenix's version of Club Nintendo points!

  • Lux782Lux782 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I would like to hack and slash some things with people. Ill grab my FC later.

  • Satanic JesusSatanic Jesus In a library with broken glasses Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I picked up the DS version today. Will post my FC later.

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  • DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User
    edited April 2009
    I'm going to EB after work today to buy this. Should I play for a bit and them jump into multiplayer, or can I just run headlong into it?

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  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I would do the first couple story quests first just to get the hang of things, but after that then sure.

  • Bobkins FlymoBobkins Flymo FF69B4 Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 2009
    The game is mine. I like the changes to magic. Will have a friend code posted shortly.

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  • Lux782Lux782 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    FC: 2149-4302-8609

    I got a bran new character up and I want to play right now so if you want to join me, post.

  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    So how does this compare to Ring of Fates (which was surprisingly enjoyable)? Better in SP, or only in MP?

  • Lux782Lux782 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I think this is the best FF:CC game yet if you enjoy a good dungeon crawl. I am not that far into the game but so far it is quite enjoyable SP though not that difficult, I wish they let you play hard mode right away.

  • Bobkins FlymoBobkins Flymo FF69B4 Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 2009
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    DS version.

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  • Lux782Lux782 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Got a game up right now, post FC if you want to join.

  • Bobkins FlymoBobkins Flymo FF69B4 Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 2009
    Are you lagging at the moment? It's not terrible, but makes it hard to play.

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  • Lux782Lux782 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    how bad? I get some small spikes every now and then.

  • Bobkins FlymoBobkins Flymo FF69B4 Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 2009
    I had to stop. I had a good 2-3 second delay in all my actions. That minigame was pretty much impossible for me to do.

    Let me fiddle with some stuff and I'll play again in another hour or so.

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  • Lux782Lux782 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Sounds good, we can always try having you host and see how that works. Send me a PM when you are good to go.

  • DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User
    edited April 2009
    Aargh, I don't know who I want to pick!

    I want a Yuke, because I love magic and I love their character designs, but I want to get great weapons and magic as well.

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  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    That's why I chose a clavat. I figured a more balanced character would suit me a bit better.

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