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Both classes bitch about every single skill they get and say the other side has it better. What skills do you feel the BW have that make them incomparable to Sorc?
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Its not that mastery path abilities are left out, its that core abilities are added in to be bound by the same rules as those mastery path abilities. They did this for game balance reasons.
Each spec line has room for 15 spec points to be spent increasing the effectiveness of abilities from that spec line.
Spec line abilities level at a rate of +1 per level 1-10 and +1 per 2 levels 11-40. For an effectiveness rating at Level 40 of 25.
Core abilities level at a rate of +1 per level 1-40. For an effectiveness rating at Level 40 of 40.
If you put 15 points in a spec line tree to increase the effectiveness of abilities in that tree, all the abilities will be at effectiveness of Level 40 (25+15=40).
we claimed the southern keep in Reikland (that's where the fighting was at the time). Kadrin isn't open at the moment.
We upgraded the guards and patrols to champions, increased their numbers, increased the keep doors hit points, and installed the healing and life-leach mobs. There was one attack on the keep while I was online, and the invaders never made it past the NPCs. One nice addition is if you own a keep and someone kills one of your guards, you get an announcement of how many enemy players are in the area. No longer do you have to investigate if there's just 1 person out there flagging your keep. The cost is pretty prohibitive though, so I wouldn't recommend upgrading every keep you own (it's up to 24g per hour if you load it out) but if you're wanting to make it much harder for the other side to flip a zone it's a good means to do so.
There was also an attack on the destro-held northern keep before I logged off just a few minutes ago. Getting into the keep takes longer because of the increased HP on the doors, but with pit of shades not stacking we were actually able to stay on the doors more... meaning people could actually do stuff instead of just sitting around watching the puddles on the ground. The destruction players would run out and sabotage our ram from time to time, but eventually we got in. I will say we had the defense outnumbered, but it is actually "possible" to take the keep now against a defense. On badlands if destruction had their sorcs inside, there was no need of a tank wall as the casters would just melt you down before you ever got into the lord's room. The fight for this keep probably lasted 10 minutes just in the lord's room with all the skirmishes, rezzes, etc. going on. It was fun.
The guild UI changes are awesome.
Overall, a good quality of life patch. I'll get some more playtime in tonight, but so far it's looking like a damn good patch. Also something we noticed... our AP regen seems to be through the roof. Has anyone else noticed this?
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I only hit some PvE for a few minutes, but it felt good; almost like certain abilities were allowed to overlap with each other. I was twisting auras between melee attacks, and though the melee attacks would have a pause (just feeling the usual GCD), the auras didn't pause at all; instant pop.
I like the normalized aura graphics, too, except for the fact that the cool Discord runes are now gone.
edit: wasn't there some sort of fix to stuff that allows regen in combat? Like it wasn't working before.
I think this needs to change. I sort of just burned myself out after getting two characters to 20-ish in a very short time. Time to try a new class/actually level my Shadow Warrior. I would play my Bright Wizard but he isn't on Badlands. (Come on Mythic, server transfers soon?)
Hmm, might try a tank class. I'm thinking Ironbreaker or possibly an Engineer. Or a healer class, I've never really tried one.
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I'm not going to go over every single tactic and ability in each of the 3 trees comparing them across both classes along with comparing baseline ability and tactics along with class synergy with throwing arm Engineers debuffing Corporeal resist and previous Cleansing Power removing every Curse that the Sorcs tried to put down.
The only thing that Sorcs really had over BW previously was the group damage buff that got cut in half in 1.2. Everything else always relied on Destro's melee dominance overshadowing Orders ranged superiority.
I dont know if was intended or not, but Marauder and Witch Elf both have AOE knockdowns, and the Marauder also had excellent AOE and disorient, stacked with Chosen Disorient. Made Orders life hell and needed something done.
So they fixed that, then also lowered everyones resist to 40% and pretty much hardcapped it there. Which is where the ranged dominance started to kick in, along with no longer having stacking disorients to allow people to kill the WP and other healers without alot of coordination and heal debuffs.
Yeah, you shouldn't go over every single tactic and ability, because just because they work differently doesn't mean they are less effective. There are abilities on Sorc side I would rather have on my BW. I've never had any interest in teaming up with engies for the corporeal debuff, because almost every single ability a BW has does elemental damage. The only corp damage I do is from my corp debuffing dot that's on a 10 second timer.
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Yeah; I like most of the effects they changed to, but the floating runes were awesome. It was also nice to have a little visual cue to what was up without having to move your eyes from your character.
You never know when boots are going to drop
It's probably a way for them to keep people from drowning in rare loot sets, but I'd prefer if the game just automatically distributed tokens.
this is because of wildfire + spreading flames tactics. I also think that RoF is a wider area base, but that might just be visual/game lag.
Okay, I haven't been on the order side of things. But do Sorceresses lay down pit of whatevers that tick for 1k and wipe out an entire warband in seconds?
That's pretty much what happened for four hours straight tonight. We were 2-3 warbands, and were opposed by maybe one full order WB. They kept wiping the floor with us. The second a BW or two showed up a quarter of the warband drops dead every five seconds.
edit: talking tier 3 here.
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OK, I'm a little slow but I think I got it now. I misread Echo's original question too -- he was just asking about the mastery point you spend to actually buy an ability increasing the mastery tree level.
Just to be sure though, in the hypothetical case that I'm rank 28 and spent 13 mastery points in one tree without buying any mastery tree abilities, I would have maxed out the level of my core abilities at ability level 40? Any mastery points I spend above that to increase the mastery level would be wasted on my core abilities since they can't go above 40, but would be needed to bring any mastery tree abilities up to rank 40?
Thanks for your patience.
Edit: Oops. I misread. Yes, they do. It ticks for only half that much at my level, but it fucking sucks.
Is the pillow case an allegory for their damage potential?
Every point made thus far is accurate.
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Oh yeah, the Sorc Pit of Shades hurts like hell, too. If I see one of those pop up below me, unless I get out of it within 3 sec I am toast. I personally am just grateful that the graphic clearly defines its borders, so I can actually tell when I'm out of it.
Fan the Flames isn't really that great if you know how to place your RoF, and you would be better off with another tactic in that slot. I would rather have sorc's Triumphant Blasting, which knocks people back when ever they crit with a path of destruction spell. Even though it's a situational tactic, it's great for scenarios with drops/lava, or knocking people off keep walls.
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i want to try and get back on badlands some time, i've just been having fun lvling my magus (not sure why i'd want to play that class really).
Active Order, at least. IR Destro are pussies* and have fled RoF and T4 wholesale.
*Not being in T4 until yesterday, I don't know if this is reasonable or not.
The combat responsiveness is really really good, speaking after palying my engineer I was gunblasting the fuck outta mans. I could actually kill people at a decent rate after stacking some dots on em and gunblasting away. If healing and every other ranged dps class fairs similar i think melee is gonna be in a world of hurt... more so.
I'm intersted to hop on and try it all out tonight... except I just got into the Blood Bowl beta. Goddamn time, I need more.
You got into the blood bowl beta?! Damn you! I've been hoping to receive that email for awhile now.
How's the patch turning out for everybody?