I have noticed that Canadian people sound alike, and not even in the stereotypical "eh" way.
I don't even know what accent I have. I've lived in Brooklyn all my life but I've probably picked up some affectations from others. Also, I tend to mumble so maybe I sound worse than I think.
The age of consent in Singapore is 16 for all opposite-sex activity and only female same-sex sexual activity. Under section 377A (outrages on decency) in the Penal Code states that; Any male person who, in public or private, commits, or abets the commission of, or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any male person of, any act of gross indecency with another male person, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years.
I thought all these horrible things about sex laws abroad were made up. I decided to research some of them now and amazingly I'm finding that a lot of them are true. I thought I was going to be able to say "Hey, this and this is and this isn't actually true." Now I'm a little sad.
I'm unable to find definitively whether Saudi Arabia does in fact lop off the heads of rape victims for being raped. I've heard it a lot but I can't really find anything that says it definitely happens or definitely doesn't.
One common misconception many might have is that western countries no longer have blasphemy laws, or at least that they aren't enforced. Not so. Britain's blasphemy law was used well at least well into the 90's, and were only revoked after the Sudan pointed them out in a "you're doing it to" response to the teddy bear controversy.
I thought all these horrible things about sex laws abroad were made up. I decided to research some of them now and amazingly I'm finding that a lot of them are true. I thought I was going to be able to say "Hey, this and this is and this isn't actually true." Now I'm a little sad.
I'm unable to find definitively whether Saudi Arabia does in fact lop off the heads of rape victims for being raped. I've heard it a lot but I can't really find anything that says it definitely happens or definitely doesn't.
You'd be surprised what you can find on the books in some places. Take Mass. Have you bathed on a Sunday. You've broken the law. Even if you answered no. Even more hilarious is wondering why the puritains thought it necessary to outlaw sleeping in a cheesecake factory.
I thought all these horrible things about sex laws abroad were made up. I decided to research some of them now and amazingly I'm finding that a lot of them are true. I thought I was going to be able to say "Hey, this and this is and this isn't actually true." Now I'm a little sad.
I'm unable to find definitively whether Saudi Arabia does in fact lop off the heads of rape victims for being raped. I've heard it a lot but I can't really find anything that says it definitely happens or definitely doesn't.
You'd be surprised what you can find on the books in some places. Take Mass. Have you bathed on a Sunday. You've broken the law. Even if you answered no. Even more hilarious is wondering why the puritains thought it necessary to outlaw sleeping in a cheesecake factory.
To prevent the horrifying events of an I Love Lucy episode, of course.
One common misconception many might have is that western countries no longer have blasphemy laws, or at least that they aren't enforced. Not so. Britain's blasphemy law was used well at least well into the 90's, and were only revoked after the Sudan pointed them out in a "you're doing it to" response to the teddy bear controversy.
Have you got a link to a story about someone getting prosecuted for this?
I have noticed that Canadian people sound alike, and not even in the stereotypical "eh" way.
I've noticed this too. It's pretty easy to pick out a general area of origin with someone from the states. But fellow Canadians? Newfies can get pretty bad, and sometimes people in the other maritime provinces have a specific accent, and obviously French people where English is their second language usually have an accent, but other than that? I can't tell where someone is from.
Accents aren't really universal, though. I've lived in New Jersey all my life, and on several occasions I've had people ask me what country I'm from, because I don't talk like a local.
I'm not really sure what to make of it.
Have you been to college (where you could have picked something up) or have really bad (Bush level) grammar?
Also, on that 21 accents thing, is it wrong that I wanted to punch her before I even identified her Toronto accent?
I'm still in college, a NJ state school. My grammar is fine, I got a 770 on the SAT verbal.
My older brother thinks that it's because I read a lot more than I talked when I was a kid. I've also been singing in choirs and taking voice lessons for years, so I guess that could have had an effect on my pronunciation.
One common misconception many might have is that western countries no longer have blasphemy laws, or at least that they aren't enforced. Not so. Britain's blasphemy law was used well at least well into the 90's, and were only revoked after the Sudan pointed them out in a "you're doing it to" response to the teddy bear controversy.
Have you got a link to a story about someone getting prosecuted for this?
Looks like I got the years wrong on the suits, but I managed to find the story and transcript.
And sometimes an actress needs to be able to speak in a certain way from a certain place from a certain time.
She seems to have enough of an understanding though that any competent coach can get her to where they need her.
Generally an actor/actress needs to use the accent to aid in establishing a character which has little to nothing to do with talking like how people from place x actually talk. Obviously there are limits to how disconnected from reality a stage accent can become but in general if you can't place it immediately it shouldn't be important.
Edit: Important to the portrayal. Little unclear there.
I disagree (to a point). Sure, sometimes you just need someone to sound American, English, or French. But other times its really important to get not only location but social ranking correct. Peter Schaffer's Black Comedy is the best example I know of this, all of the characters are from different parts of Great Britain with not very different social backgrounds. One of the hardest parts for a speech coach would actually be making sure the accents don't all bleed into each other while on stage (its the teaching of an accent thats pretty easy, but keeping it?).
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I have noticed that Canadian people sound alike, and not even in the stereotypical "eh" way.
I've noticed this too. It's pretty easy to pick out a general area of origin with someone from the states. But fellow Canadians? Newfies can get pretty bad, and sometimes people in the other maritime provinces have a specific accent, and obviously French people where English is their second language usually have an accent, but other than that? I can't tell where someone is from.
Ask them to say Toronto and Calgary. You'll be able to figure out pretty quickly where they came from based on how they pronounce those two words. Then there's the local words, like bunny-hug. It's really fucking easy to pick up your place of origin in Canada because much of the slang doesn't cross provincial boundaries (barring places like Lloydminster).
And sometimes an actress needs to be able to speak in a certain way from a certain place from a certain time.
She seems to have enough of an understanding though that any competent coach can get her to where they need her.
Generally an actor/actress needs to use the accent to aid in establishing a character which has little to nothing to do with talking like how people from place x actually talk. Obviously there are limits to how disconnected from reality a stage accent can become but in general if you can't place it immediately it shouldn't be important.
Edit: Important to the portrayal. Little unclear there.
I disagree (to a point). Sure, sometimes you just need someone to sound American, English, or French. But other times its really important to get not only location but social ranking correct. Peter Schaffer's Black Comedy is the best example I know of this, all of the characters are from different parts of Great Britain with not very different social backgrounds. One of the hardest parts for a speech coach would actually be making sure the accents don't all bleed into each other while on stage (its the teaching of an accent thats pretty easy, but keeping it?).
I knew I was being unclear. I think we're basically agreeing. I'm saying if you can't immediately place the accent of a character, the accent should not be important to the portrayal. In pursuit of this goal stage accents are often caricatures rather than accurate portrayals of what people actually talk like.
I used to think (for far too long a time) that SAP somehow stood for Spanish.
Well that's a logical mistake, since they always said "Transmito en SAP" or something to that effect. I don't know what it does stand for off the top of my head, but I always hear it read as "ese ah pey" when I watch Yankee games.
I have noticed that Canadian people sound alike, and not even in the stereotypical "eh" way.
I've noticed this too. It's pretty easy to pick out a general area of origin with someone from the states. But fellow Canadians? Newfies can get pretty bad, and sometimes people in the other maritime provinces have a specific accent, and obviously French people where English is their second language usually have an accent, but other than that? I can't tell where someone is from.
I dunno, the few Canadian podcasts or interviews I've heard sort of remind me of each other. Watching CommandN with Amber MacArthur (PEI born, Toronto located currently) and then listening to an interview with Angela Melick of WastedTalent.ca (Vancouver) made me notice the similarities in cadence and tone. And BC and Ontario are far enough apart that their accents shouldn't bleed into each other like that.
What's the deal with "ou" anyway? Why is it that Canadians have a different way of saying it, depending on where they're from? There's actually a wiki page on it, but I don't think I understood it.
I used to think (for far too long a time) that SAP somehow stood for Spanish.
Well that's a logical mistake, since they always said "Transmito en SAP" or something to that effect. I don't know what it does stand for off the top of my head, but I always hear it read as "ese ah pey" when I watch Yankee games.
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I wish telemundo had it.
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I used to think (for far too long a time) that SAP somehow stood for Spanish.
Well that's a logical mistake, since they always said "Transmito en SAP" or something to that effect. I don't know what it does stand for off the top of my head, but I always hear it read as "ese ah pey" when I watch Yankee games.
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I wish telemundo had it.
When they have that bizarro show where everyone is dressed as schoolchildren, I really want to know what's going on.
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Really Spanish stations not having subtitles is a travesty.
Accents aren't really universal, though. I've lived in New Jersey all my life, and on several occasions I've had people ask me what country I'm from, because I don't talk like a local.
I'm not really sure what to make of it.
Have you been to college (where you could have picked something up) or have really bad (Bush level) grammar?
Also, on that 21 accents thing, is it wrong that I wanted to punch her before I even identified her Toronto accent?
Not at all, I really hope I don't sound like that to non-locals, talk about pretentious.
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I read something by a linguistics professor who said that when she was in her home city (somewhere in Scotland I think) she could ride the bus and tell what bus stops people were going to get off at from their accent.
You can do this in Glasgow if you've lived there a while. It's quite often exaggerated by the fact that there's still a fairly strong divide between Catholic and Protestant communities, especially because their respective children will often attend different schools.
I know Bostonians who can tell what town around Boston you're from or what street in town itself, but only if you're older than a certain age. TV screws it all up, so only a few towns (Revere for instance) as still reasonable distinct. Which is probably why Brits can imitate the the 'General American" US accent better than vice versa.
Needs Quimby-trial "Chowdah!" vs "Shouderr!" clip.
Dude, Boston plays that shit up. I ate at a place called the "Chowdah!" shop, or something to that effect.
edit: There's also that whole thing about how people can tell you're out of town if you mispronounce a location, like "Worcester" in New England. Go on, try and pronounce it.
Back in second grade or so, I thought the Ewoks were the best part of Return of the Jedi. Fuzzy pals getting into mischief involving speeder bikes? Genius!
Back in second grade or so, I thought the Ewoks were the best part of Return of the Jedi. Fuzzy pals getting into mischief involving speeder bikes? Genius!
I think that counts as a misconception, right?
Yes. I pity the children who will grow up liking Jar Jar Binks, but I'm not sure they exist.
Don't people use 'moot point' to refer to something that isn't worth talking about or is a foregone conclusion?
it apparently actually means debatable or open to discussion
uh
well not in the legal world
moot = no point in discussing because it's been decided already or is no longer an issue
i.e. if you brought a case against your employer for firing you for being gay, but after you filed it your employer hired you back to the position, and you brought the case to the court anyway, they would dismiss it because it would be moot
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I don't even know what accent I have. I've lived in Brooklyn all my life but I've probably picked up some affectations from others. Also, I tend to mumble so maybe I sound worse than I think.
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Now THAT'S a misconception!
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I'm unable to find definitively whether Saudi Arabia does in fact lop off the heads of rape victims for being raped. I've heard it a lot but I can't really find anything that says it definitely happens or definitely doesn't.
You'd be surprised what you can find on the books in some places. Take Mass. Have you bathed on a Sunday. You've broken the law. Even if you answered no. Even more hilarious is wondering why the puritains thought it necessary to outlaw sleeping in a cheesecake factory.
To prevent the horrifying events of an I Love Lucy episode, of course.
Have you got a link to a story about someone getting prosecuted for this?
I've noticed this too. It's pretty easy to pick out a general area of origin with someone from the states. But fellow Canadians? Newfies can get pretty bad, and sometimes people in the other maritime provinces have a specific accent, and obviously French people where English is their second language usually have an accent, but other than that? I can't tell where someone is from.
I'm still in college, a NJ state school. My grammar is fine, I got a 770 on the SAT verbal.
My older brother thinks that it's because I read a lot more than I talked when I was a kid. I've also been singing in choirs and taking voice lessons for years, so I guess that could have had an effect on my pronunciation.
Looks like I got the years wrong on the suits, but I managed to find the story and transcript.
Ask them to say Toronto and Calgary. You'll be able to figure out pretty quickly where they came from based on how they pronounce those two words. Then there's the local words, like bunny-hug. It's really fucking easy to pick up your place of origin in Canada because much of the slang doesn't cross provincial boundaries (barring places like Lloydminster).
Both. :winky:
Yeah, I don't know why.
Bingo. They also sometimes call them Kangaroo jackets. That one makes a little more sense.
I knew I was being unclear. I think we're basically agreeing. I'm saying if you can't immediately place the accent of a character, the accent should not be important to the portrayal. In pursuit of this goal stage accents are often caricatures rather than accurate portrayals of what people actually talk like.
I used to think (for far too long a time) that SAP somehow stood for Spanish.
Well that's a logical mistake, since they always said "Transmito en SAP" or something to that effect. I don't know what it does stand for off the top of my head, but I always hear it read as "ese ah pey" when I watch Yankee games.
I dunno, the few Canadian podcasts or interviews I've heard sort of remind me of each other. Watching CommandN with Amber MacArthur (PEI born, Toronto located currently) and then listening to an interview with Angela Melick of WastedTalent.ca (Vancouver) made me notice the similarities in cadence and tone. And BC and Ontario are far enough apart that their accents shouldn't bleed into each other like that.
What's the deal with "ou" anyway? Why is it that Canadians have a different way of saying it, depending on where they're from? There's actually a wiki page on it, but I don't think I understood it.
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I wish telemundo had it.
When they have that bizarro show where everyone is dressed as schoolchildren, I really want to know what's going on.
Not at all, I really hope I don't sound like that to non-locals, talk about pretentious.
I realize this is a few pages back, but did Johnny maybe mean moot point?
Look, man, it's mute point now.
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I'd like to introduce you to the American South good sir.
SC specifically here
Alabama
To be fair I sound like this sometimes
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Dude, Boston plays that shit up. I ate at a place called the "Chowdah!" shop, or something to that effect.
edit: There's also that whole thing about how people can tell you're out of town if you mispronounce a location, like "Worcester" in New England. Go on, try and pronounce it.
There's a good chance you said it wrong.
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I think that counts as a misconception, right?
it apparently actually means debatable or open to discussion
Yes. I pity the children who will grow up liking Jar Jar Binks, but I'm not sure they exist.
uh
well not in the legal world
moot = no point in discussing because it's been decided already or is no longer an issue
i.e. if you brought a case against your employer for firing you for being gay, but after you filed it your employer hired you back to the position, and you brought the case to the court anyway, they would dismiss it because it would be moot
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