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Banjo-Kazooie: The Bear, the Bird and the Witch. (Banjo-Tooie out now!)

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    maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I'm looking forward to Tooie.

    I had the N64 cart but it was just way too big for my young mind to wrap its head around (Okay so I was 15, not quite that young)

    Everything just was so goddamn big and took so long to get around I didn't very far into the game, I think I maybe made it to the third "world".

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    jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Gilder wrote: »
    To be fair, they did shoot themselves in the foot by having the revival of B-K be a vehicle based game instead of platforming. I think Rare said something about how they didn't go platforming because they didn't think they could come up with something amazing to set it apart? Well who cares, it doesn't need to reinvent the wheel. Just give us awesome levels. It's not like the Jiggoseum was the most amazing level ever created.

    I actually thought the Jiggoseum had the best challenges in the game. Nutty Acres is a close second though.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I wonder if Tooie is still going to feel as fucking gigantic as it did back in the day, or if my standards have changed now and it's actually gonna seem really small, like what happened with Kazooie.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Yeah, I enjoyed replaying the original B-K, but I remember entering the first world and going "this is it?" I remembered it being much bigger.

    I'm guessing Tooie's size will feel just right by modern standards.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Yeah, I enjoyed replaying the original B-K, but I remember entering the first world and going "this is it?" I remembered it being much bigger.

    I'm guessing Tooie's size will feel just right by modern standards.

    It's like the giant slide at your childhood playground.

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    jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I have a feeling I will still like B-K better than B-T. Even on replaying it on XBLA B-K's levels felt like just the right size to me.

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    RaughnRaughn Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    With the clever writing, the beautiful worlds, and the excellent music, I wanted to like N&B, but I think it officially went onto the trade-in pile tonight. I can't get into the vehicle editor, and the game feels like it's going to be an annoying restart-fest without it.

    I think Rare was right to try something new, though. As much as I love BK, I don't think a new platformer like that would have done much for me these days. I'd probably spend the whole game just wanting BK with current-gen graphics and sound.

    I was planning to ignore the Tooie arcade release, but I may give it a chance. I can't remember how much of my negative experience was due to the N64 begging for death during the more ambitious parts.

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    GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    It's a shame you guys quit out on Tooie so early, because some of the best worlds were in late game. Hailfire Peaks and Cloud Cukooland come to mind.

    Plus that's where Govi the camel says he's going to in Banjo-Kazooie, so nyah!

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    Ramen NoodleRamen Noodle whoa, god has a picture of me! Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Hailfire and Cloudcuckoo Land were pretty fucking awesome. Same with the dinosaur world.

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    PemulisPemulis Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Godfather wrote: »
    It's a shame you guys quit out on Tooie so early, because some of the best worlds were in late game. Hailfire Peaks and Cloud Cukooland come to mind.

    Plus that's where Govi the camel says he's going to in Banjo-Kazooie, so nyah!

    Luckily, we get another chance!

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    GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    The only real flaw I had with Tooie was Canary Mary in Cloud Cukooland for that fucking cheato page

    Ugh

    Broken beyond belief

    And even though this isn't BK related, this boss right here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyM4yyl__4

    Gave me nightmares as a kid, and was fucking impossible.

    I never beat it, and I had to get a buddy of mine to do it after many several unsuccessful attempts.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I can't believe I 100%'d that game.

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    RaughnRaughn Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Godfather wrote: »
    The only real flaw I had with Tooie was Canary Mary in Cloud Cukooland for that fucking cheato page

    Was that the race that makes you alternate hitting A and B to accelerate, but she's moving absurdly fast? If so, you're right, that was ridiculous. I had to sit my N64 controller on a desk and use the ends of pens to hit the buttons.

    I'm relieved to hear that it was for a cheato page, though. If I do pick up the arcade Tooie, I can pass on a cheato page much easier than I can pass on a jiggy.

    I can't believe I 100%'d [Donkey Kong 64].

    Me too, ugh.

    Well, almost. I never found ten red bananas in the haunted castle level. And never will.

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    Alfred J. KwakAlfred J. Kwak is it because you were insulted when I insulted your hair?Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I almost feel like I'd enjoy Tooie more then Kazooie, after all those year (got lost half-way through in those huge gameworlds, like so many).

    Back when I played B&K on my N64, I absolutely adored the game and thought Mario 64 was no match for it. Recently I've watched my brother playing the XBLA version, and I thought it really, really didn't hold up all that well (basically I agree on all points with the Eurogamer review). So instead of playing it myself, I just stayed away because I want to keep all the fond memories I had with the game. And Mario 64 is still great, yo.

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    KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    They must have some amazing programmers at rare. The were able to render huge environments even on the N64. I wonder if they made the graphics engines or bought them.

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    FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    They made them.

    Rare could do things with consoles other developers couldn't. They were pulling off fur-shading and self-shadowing characters before anyone else was on Gamecube, especially after Microsoft touted them as Xbox-only features.

    And then MS bought them :P

    edit: and Tooie has some tech-demoy bits where Banjo has multiple shadows depending on nearby light sources.

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    PataPata Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I can't believe I 100%'d that game.

    DK64 was my first N64 game.

    I 101%'d it and loved it.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    The thing that surprises me about BK is that there are fucking jiggies just lying around. Especially on that first level, but still throughout the game.

    Hey, you climbed to the top of this hill? Have a jiggy? Followed up clankers tail (after releasing him and netting yourself a jiggy)? Have ANOTHER jiggy? I mean, hell, I think you get 3 jiggies just off Conga in the first level.

    I really don't remember Tooie being anything close to that.

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    XtarathXtarath Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Tooie was more like Mario 64 regard.

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    PemulisPemulis Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Are XBLA titles delayed a week for silver members?

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    jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Nope, only demos seem to get delayed for silver members.

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    PemulisPemulis Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I know some DLC does too, I'm glad XBLA doesn't.

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    AnteCantelopeAnteCantelope Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I almost feel like I'd enjoy Tooie more then Kazooie, after all those year (got lost half-way through in those huge gameworlds, like so many).

    Back when I played B&K on my N64, I absolutely adored the game and thought Mario 64 was no match for it. Recently I've watched my brother playing the XBLA version, and I thought it really, really didn't hold up all that well (basically I agree on all points with the Eurogamer review). So instead of playing it myself, I just stayed away because I want to keep all the fond memories I had with the game. And Mario 64 is still great, yo.

    I disagree almost entirely with that review. Sure, the camera isn't perfect, and there are a few other problems that come with early 3D. But come on, he calls the visuals too 'garish' twice? No, they're only garish in comparison to all the brown that we've been getting lately. It uses a full colour palette for cartoony visuals. I'm not saying that the whole game has aged perfectly, but any review that doesn't mention the music at all is pretty bad. I think it's still some of the best videogame music I've ever heard, and that's definitely a point that should be addressed in any decent review.

    That said, the levels feel so much smaller now, and I'm looking forward to Tooie, which I didn't really like before, because now I might be able to handle the size of its levels.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Oh hey, new trailer for Tooie we all missed
    http://www.gametrailers.com/player/48269.html

    And apparently each stop 'n swap egg has it's own unique reward (they don't all pool to unlock the bird bash like a poster on here thought.)

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    SilkyNumNutsSilkyNumNuts Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Man, I just got the other day, I'm not far in, but my dear lord this game is gorgeous!

    and funny. My kinda humour.

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Have the graphics always looked that good in Tooie, or did they tighten them up (on level 3, especially)?

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    GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I forgot how fucking massive Tooie was.

    Seriously.

    You guys are getting a steal at just $15.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Have the graphics always looked that good in Tooie, or did they tighten them up (on level 3, especially)?

    Tooie was notorious for having an incredibly piss-poor framerate, so I imagine it looked nearly that good (if, you know, you remove the blending and HD and what-not)

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    PataPata Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I can't imagine how great it'll be to play without it being around 15 fps with occasional slowdown.

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    Spectral SwallowSpectral Swallow Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Stop and swap prizes revealed:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M64aXfe5D88
    Yellow Egg - Gamer Pic

    Red Egg - Banjo Kazooie Theme

    Green Egg - Homing Eggs

    Blue Egg - Breegull Bash

    Pink Egg - Jinjo Multiplayer

    Cyan Egg - Stop 'N' Swop 2?

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    KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Wow. I just watched that trailer. They really crammed much more into Tooie than I thought. It looks like they had some mini games there, animated puzzles, and a larger amount of bosses. I'll probably go ahead and get it for the HD upgrade.

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    Ramen NoodleRamen Noodle whoa, god has a picture of me! Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Have the graphics always looked that good in Tooie, or did they tighten them up (on level 3, especially)?
    I hope I'm not the only one who got that reference.

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    SaigaSaiga Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Have the graphics always looked that good in Tooie, or did they tighten them up (on level 3, especially)?
    I hope I'm not the only one who got that reference.

    :lol:

    Haven't seen that in ages.

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    El ExtremoEl Extremo Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Saiga wrote: »
    Have the graphics always looked that good in Tooie, or did they tighten them up (on level 3, especially)?
    I hope I'm not the only one who got that reference.

    :lol:

    Haven't seen that in ages.

    Oh. Hahahaha. I love that... movie...
    Game?
    Book?
    Music video?

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    SaigaSaiga Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    El Extremo wrote: »
    Saiga wrote: »
    Have the graphics always looked that good in Tooie, or did they tighten them up (on level 3, especially)?
    I hope I'm not the only one who got that reference.

    :lol:

    Haven't seen that in ages.

    Oh. Hahahaha. I love that... movie...
    Game?
    Book?
    Music video?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG8nv9EFgy0

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    El ExtremoEl Extremo Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Saiga wrote: »
    El Extremo wrote: »
    Saiga wrote: »
    Have the graphics always looked that good in Tooie, or did they tighten them up (on level 3, especially)?
    I hope I'm not the only one who got that reference.

    :lol:

    Haven't seen that in ages.

    Oh. Hahahaha. I love that... movie...
    Game?
    Book?
    Music video?

    *Awesome video*

    Holy poop nuggets Batman! I remember that commercial!

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    FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    http://www.rarewitchproject.com/?id=1778

    SPOILER details on how Stop n Swop with BTXBLA works. You need BKXBLA to get all of Tooie's secrets now. The carts are still there, but they have a new purpose..

    And the N64 is still on the main menu, but it has Xbox games sitting behind it :lol:

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    APZonerunnerAPZonerunner Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Wooo :D Cannot wait.

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    maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I guess I'll have to go back through Banjo-Kazooie to find all those damn eggs.

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    XtarathXtarath Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    It's actually really easy, much more than trying to 100% it or those god damn jig saw puzzles.

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