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  • GPIA7RGPIA7R Registered User
    edited June 2009
    I thought they seemed like nice people. I figured the old man was probably ready to die, and just spent his life in fear... so I should ease his pain.
    Spoiler:

  • freakish lightfreakish light Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    MidVicious wrote: »
    your saved games are stored locally. copy paste

    You can't use any DLC without Windows Live. Saved games dependent on DLC are kaput without Windows Live. Windows Live owns your goddamn soul.

    Ah, but that's only if you don't dig out the DLC files from where Windows Live downloaded them and put them in your data folder.

  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    This sounds like a lot of work, I think I will just take the Windows Live bullshit as a message that I need to start over, and play as a Melee Ninja.

  • firewaterwordfirewaterword Tighter than R. Kelly in his teens. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    So I take it Point Lookout is basically that fucking creepy X-Files episode with the inbred monsters turned into a Fallout mission? If so, I'll take two.

    I love the font they used in the trailer too - was waiting for the Mystery Machine to pop up.

    They're gonna bury you, they're gonna finish. They're gonna stand 'em up six by six by six.
  • ZulkirZulkir Registered User
    edited June 2009
    Those having issues with Windows Live might want to take a gander at this Mod

    I used to use an external app with similar functionality, the name escapes me at the moment (its on my old disconnected xp drive), and yes, you can indeed enjoy the game, mods, saves and DLC without Windows Live.

  • davidbarrydavidbarry Registered User
    edited June 2009
    Fallout 2: I'm jumping in for the first time, having only played FO3. Any suggestions for a decent build? I'm probably going to start with a small guns specialist (or whatever its equivalent is), but I understand that the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stats work a bit differently in this.

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Sniper/Diplomat is really good. With sniper rifles in FO2 you can shoot people in the eyes and blind them, effectively taking them out of the fight. You can also cripple big bads after blinding them, making them easy meat.

    Basically being able to talk to people is important. Just a heads up though, at the end of the game you fight a really bad motherfucker. Like, 10X harder then anything in FO3. Be ready for him.

  • Darth NathanDarth Nathan Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    OK, to answer some confusion on this topic;

    If you find that after some patch, or refusing some patch, or whatever, that your save files are missing, THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY MISSING. They're just in a folder that's associated with your GFWL account. Moving them one folder up in the hierarchy will make them reappear in the game. The folder you're looking for is in My Documents/My Games/Fallout 3/*your GFWL account name*. Just move them up to the Fallout 3 folder, and you're peachy keen.

    For anyone who has upgraded to 1.5 and broke all their mods, download Fallout Mod Manager, Fallout3Edit, and Fallout Mod Sorter, all from Fallout 3 Nexus. Put all of those into your Fallout 3/Data folder. Then, if you have DLC, go into the folder where GFWL stores it, which is Users/*username*/AppData/Local/Microsoft/XLive/DLC/4 25307d6/00000002 (note you'll have to enable "see hidden folders and files" in Windows to see these files). In this bizarrely named folder you'll find a bunch of more bizarrely named folders, each one of these containing a folder called "content". MOVE, NOT COPY everything in all the content folders into your Fallout 3/Data folder, leaving the content folders empty. Then run Fallout3Edit, with the -masterupdate switch. Then run Fallout Mod Manager, and tick all the mods you have that you want to run. Note that you must have all of the DLC ones ticked, as well as the base Fallout3 file. Don't worry about the load order. After you've done this, run Fallout Mod Sorter. FINALLY, run the game. Everything should work fine, except you won't get achievements or gamescore, but who gives a fuck.

    Edit: A better written version of this info should probably go in the next OP, whoever's making it.

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  • freakish lightfreakish light Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    OK, to answer some confusion on this topic;

    If you find that after some patch, or refusing some patch, or whatever, that your save files are missing, THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY MISSING. They're just in a folder that's associated with your GFWL account. Moving them one folder up in the hierarchy will make them reappear in the game. The folder you're looking for is in My Documents/My Games/Fallout 3/*your GFWL account name*. Just move them up to the Fallout 3 folder, and you're peachy keen.

    For anyone who has upgraded to 1.5 and broke all their mods, download Fallout Mod Manager, Fallout3Edit, and Fallout Mod Sorter, all from Fallout 3 Nexus. Put all of those into your Fallout 3/Data folder. Then, if you have DLC, go into the folder where GFWL stores it, which is Users/*username*/AppData/Local/Microsoft/XLive/DLC/4 25307d6/00000002 (note you'll have to enable "see hidden folders and files" in Windows to see these files). In this bizarrely named folder you'll find a bunch of more bizarrely named folders, each one of these containing a folder called "content". MOVE, NOT COPY everything in all the content folders into your Fallout 3/Data folder, leaving the content folders empty. Then run Fallout3Edit, with the -masterupdate switch. Then run Fallout Mod Manager, and tick all the mods you have that you want to run. Note that you must have all of the DLC ones ticked, as well as the base Fallout3 file. Don't worry about the load order. After you've done this, run Fallout Mod Sorter. FINALLY, run the game. Everything should work fine, except you won't get achievements or gamescore, but who gives a fuck.

    Edit: A better written version of this info should probably go in the next OP, whoever's making it.

    I'll handle it still, unless somebody else really really wants it. In which case, speak up.

    Thanks for the addition.

  • CarcharodontosaurusCarcharodontosaurus Registered User
    edited June 2009
    Just one more week until we're all knee deep in hillbilly hell! My Level 30 character is going to have so much fun.

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  • HakuninHakunin Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    davidbarry wrote: »
    Fallout 2: I'm jumping in for the first time, having only played FO3. Any suggestions for a decent build? I'm probably going to start with a small guns specialist (or whatever its equivalent is), but I understand that the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stats work a bit differently in this.
    SPECIAL:
    IN is the most important stat... unless you plan to be a shoot first, ask questions later type of dude(or dudette) but you´ll miss out on a lot of cool conversations and XP. As apposed to F3 the PE stat in F2 is important, at least if you wanna be able to actually hit anything. ST is not that important if you plan on having some party members with who can lug around your stuff and you can get a car with a very spacious trunk later on. CH's most important function is determining how many NPCs you can have with you, so have at least 2 in that if you plan on having party member(s). I would recommend a CH of 6, so you can have 3 mule...er, party members.

    Traits:
    The Gifted trait is so good, it's almost broken. +1 to all SPECIAL stats in exchange for a insignificant decrease to all skills? Fuck yes. Small Frame, Finesse and Fast Shot are also top-tier traits.

    Tag skills:
    Small Guns obviously. Also Speech, Lockpick and Science are good choices.
    Also note that tagged skills work a little different here than in F3. In F3 a tagged skills simply meant that you got a one time bonus to that skill at the start of the game. In F1/F2 the tagged skills get the one time bonus at the start plus a bonus every time you put points into that skill. In short, tagged skills will go up alot faster.

  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The key question with regard to stat allocation is: Do you intend to find all the skill books? With a checklist of them? (You can do this by being dilligent in just normal exploration/adventuring, for the most part)

    If so, then an INT of 4 is all you will need to max out every skill by level 30. That allows you to pump up several other stats to 8 or so. By taking Almost Perfect at level 30 and waiting to go Bobblehead hunting until then, you can max out every skill and every stat.

    EDIT: Oh, crap, Fallout 2. Disregard this advice! There aren't nearly as many books in FO2 as there are in FO3.

    Traits:

    Take Gifted. This is a no-brainer.

    The remaining choice is between Finesse, Small Frame and Fast Shot. I don't usually take Fast Shot because I like making called shots. I don't usually take Finesse because when you get the Sniper perk (and any reasonable gunslinging diplomat build will take that one) it's basically obsolete. That leaves Small Frame, which boils down to an extra attribute point (always welcome) at the cost of some carry weight...which hurts at the beginning, but since FO2 gives you the car and plenty of party members, really isn't that much of an issue.

  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
  • MifioMifio Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Quick question, for the Firelance, does a dialog box pop up and tell you that the UFO has crashed? If not. I'm pretty sure I missed it.

    Sorry. :(
  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I picked up the PC version of this, and downloaded the alternate background story mod. Game looks and runs amazing on PC.

    Got a question and a problem, though.

    Firstly, I'm pretty sure I saw a mod that replaces the greyish/white blur with a more realistic sky. Whats it called?

    Second, is there any way to not have the game crash constantly? I don't really know whats causing it other than that it happens when I'm out in the wasteland. Had it go 45 minutes without a crash, but sometimes it just crashes constantly. As much as fallout 2 gets maligned for its buginess, it never crashed this much.

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  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    SkutSkut wrote: »
    And don't give friendly NPCs in Fallout 2 burst weapons.

    On the contrary, do it at least once.

  • HakuninHakunin Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    SkutSkut wrote: »
    And don't give friendly NPCs in Fallout 2 burst weapons.

    On the contrary, do it at least once.
    Yeah, and make sure to give Marcus a Minigun/Rocket Launcher and some grenades if you have him with you.

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I picked up the PC version of this, and downloaded the alternate background story mod. Game looks and runs amazing on PC.

    Got a question and a problem, though.

    Firstly, I'm pretty sure I saw a mod that replaces the greyish/white blur with a more realistic sky. Whats it called?

    Second, is there any way to not have the game crash constantly? I don't really know whats causing it other than that it happens when I'm out in the wasteland. Had it go 45 minutes without a crash, but sometimes it just crashes constantly. As much as fallout 2 gets maligned for its buginess, it never crashed this much.

    Check out TheOutbreaks Wasteland Moods Series. It contains 4 or 5 different "styles" take your pick on which one ya look and go with it. I actually went with the one that made everything gray/brown. With the rain weather mod it is very atmospheric.
    Spoiler:


    As for the crashes I can't say. I have a ton of mods installed and yet do not experience crashes. I hear Fallout 3 is simply fickle with different comps.

    Mifio wrote: »
    Quick question, for the Firelance, does a dialog box pop up and tell you that the UFO has crashed? If not. I'm pretty sure I missed it.

    I was walking around the wastes when something exploded over my head, deafening me. When the hellfire was over, I found the weapon laying on the ground.

  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    My buddy gets the same sort of constant crashes I do, so I'm pretty sure its not just me.

    Thanks for the link, that looks fantastic. Do they cycle well? Description seems to indicate so. The blue, fog, and rust all look amazing.

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  • CangoFettCangoFett Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    FYI, mine crashes constantly too, for seemingly random and unreproducable reasons.


    F5. alot

  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    My buddy gets the same sort of constant crashes I do, so I'm pretty sure its not just me.

    Thanks for the link, that looks fantastic. Do they cycle well? Description seems to indicate so. The blue, fog, and rust all look amazing.

    There are a number of people who seem afflicted with constant crashing, but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. So people crash all the time, others rarely see one.

  • Funguy McAidsFunguy McAids Registered User
    edited June 2009
    Axen wrote: »
    I picked up the PC version of this, and downloaded the alternate background story mod. Game looks and runs amazing on PC.

    Got a question and a problem, though.

    Firstly, I'm pretty sure I saw a mod that replaces the greyish/white blur with a more realistic sky. Whats it called?

    Second, is there any way to not have the game crash constantly? I don't really know whats causing it other than that it happens when I'm out in the wasteland. Had it go 45 minutes without a crash, but sometimes it just crashes constantly. As much as fallout 2 gets maligned for its buginess, it never crashed this much.

    Check out TheOutbreaks Wasteland Moods Series. It contains 4 or 5 different "styles" take your pick on which one ya look and go with it. I actually went with the one that made everything gray/brown. With the rain weather mod it is very atmospheric.
    Spoiler:


    As for the crashes I can't say. I have a ton of mods installed and yet do not experience crashes. I hear Fallout 3 is simply fickle with different comps.

    Mifio wrote: »
    Quick question, for the Firelance, does a dialog box pop up and tell you that the UFO has crashed? If not. I'm pretty sure I missed it.

    I was walking around the wastes when something exploded over my head, deafening me. When the hellfire was over, I found the weapon laying on the ground.

    Man Fallout 3 mods never cease to impress.

    With Wasteland moods I recommend using the mod where it randomly cycles through them from time to time. I've had some seriously gorgeous fights where the fog rolls in close while hordes of super mutants are charging over a hilltop. Can't tell how many there are as they just keep on rolling in through the fog.

    And a question about the Firelance. Is it a trail of smoke then explosion in the sky that drops it? Pretty sure I've missed it numerous times now.

  • DudBoltDudBolt Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    SkutSkut wrote: »
    And don't give friendly NPCs in Fallout 2 burst weapons.

    Except Cassidy. Give that man a shotgun with Burst and he'll pick them off with near pin-point accuracy.

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  • ZulkirZulkir Registered User
    edited June 2009
    The Firelance is aquired from the crashing ufo (random) encounter, the Alien Blaster is found in a separate area with an already crashed ship, you'll pick up its distress beacon on your pipboy when you're near it.

  • ClevingerClevinger Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Axen wrote: »
    I picked up the PC version of this, and downloaded the alternate background story mod. Game looks and runs amazing on PC.

    Got a question and a problem, though.

    Firstly, I'm pretty sure I saw a mod that replaces the greyish/white blur with a more realistic sky. Whats it called?

    Second, is there any way to not have the game crash constantly? I don't really know whats causing it other than that it happens when I'm out in the wasteland. Had it go 45 minutes without a crash, but sometimes it just crashes constantly. As much as fallout 2 gets maligned for its buginess, it never crashed this much.

    Check out TheOutbreaks Wasteland Moods Series. It contains 4 or 5 different "styles" take your pick on which one ya look and go with it. I actually went with the one that made everything gray/brown. With the rain weather mod it is very atmospheric.
    Spoiler:


    As for the crashes I can't say. I have a ton of mods installed and yet do not experience crashes. I hear Fallout 3 is simply fickle with different comps.

    Mifio wrote: »
    Quick question, for the Firelance, does a dialog box pop up and tell you that the UFO has crashed? If not. I'm pretty sure I missed it.

    I was walking around the wastes when something exploded over my head, deafening me. When the hellfire was over, I found the weapon laying on the ground.

    Man Fallout 3 mods never cease to impress.

    With Wasteland moods I recommend using the mod where it randomly cycles through them from time to time. I've had some seriously gorgeous fights where the fog rolls in close while hordes of super mutants are charging over a hilltop. Can't tell how many there are as they just keep on rolling in through the fog.

    And a question about the Firelance. Is it a trail of smoke then explosion in the sky that drops it? Pretty sure I've missed it numerous times now.

    Can you use both the volumes at the same time (the weather controller for 1, and the cycler for 2)?

  • ApharmdApharmd Registered User
    edited June 2009
    I just got the Firelance at Meresti Trainyards last night.

    The first time I've got it, it would have to be the guy I'm not using Energy Weapons with. Just my luck.

    So I said "No, I didn't come to a full and complete stop, but who don't you kiss my full and complete ass?

    They laughed, then they threw me in jail... just like Jesus.
  • StrikerkcStrikerkc Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Apharmd wrote: »
    I just got the Firelance at Meresti Trainyards last night.

    The first time I've got it, it would have to be the guy I'm not using Energy Weapons with. Just my luck.

    Dude, it's still a blaster of Doom. If your character has fingers with which to pull the trigger, the gun will still serve you well.

  • TubeTube Working As Intended Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited June 2009
    Isn't there hardly any ammo for it though?

  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Isn't there hardly any ammo for it though?

    It is limited, and finite in quantity. But there's a fair amount. I think the wiki said there was a couple of hundred shots in the vanilla game, and another 200 or so depending on perks in Broken Steel.

    It uses the same ammo as the alien blaster doesn't it?

    100 hours into this game and I've either missed the firelance event or it hasn't happened yet.

    scarab you have mental problems
  • StygianSmileyFaceStygianSmileyFace Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I was under a bridge this AM when playing (Well, the character was) and there was a tremendous crashing sound. I ran out, but it being mid day, did not see anything.

    I feel I missed the event.

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I was over at a buddy's house last weekend watching him play. He was at the Meresti Trainyard and the crash happened. He found a bunch of ammo on the ground, but he was never able to find the wreck.

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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    I was over at a buddy's house last weekend watching him play. He was at the Meresti Trainyard and the crash happened. He found a bunch of ammo on the ground, but he was never able to find the wreck.

    The gun has this annoying tendency to land on top of buildings you can't get to.

  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The real concern should be why you'd want to use a gun over a sword that is on fire.

    I wish F3 had F1/2's crazy physics. Hitting someone with a sledgehammer and watching their limbs explode from the torso is all well and good, but I miss the days of smacking someone in the chest and just watching their whole body fly backwards 30m to slump into a wall.

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  • MonkeyDLuffyMonkeyDLuffy Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    I was over at a buddy's house last weekend watching him play. He was at the Meresti Trainyard and the crash happened. He found a bunch of ammo on the ground, but he was never able to find the wreck.

    The gun has this annoying tendency to land on top of buildings you can't get to.

    Also, there's the fact that, unlike the normal Alien Blaster, there is no wreck--there's just the smoke trail, the explosion, and then the Firelance and the alien rounds fall out of the sky. The rounds are easy enough to find, being neon blue and all, but I hear that it's best to bring Dogmeat with you (or go and get him when you see the explosion, one) so that he can fetch the Firelance with a minimum of fuss.

    Unless it's on top of a building like Phoenix-D said, at which point you're kind of screwed, though at least you get some more alien ammo out of the deal.

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    If you're on the PC you can activate noclip to fly up and grab it. You just need to hit ~ or ` depending on US/EU keyboard and then type tcl.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Is there a way to get an evil karma hit from the Synthetic Man quest? Or a way to obtain the unique laser rifle through evil means? I have been playing on a new game, trying to take the evil path, and it is very difficult. Not difficult from a challenge perspective, but difficult because a lot of the time, I cannot discern what the "evil solution" to a quest is. Many quests seem to have only positive or neutral karma rewards.

    For example, I did the Agatha's Song quest. If you return the violin to Agatha, you get a positive karma adjustment. If you sell the violin to Abraham Washington, you get no karma adjustment at all. What does a guy have to do to get an evil karma adjustment for so many of these quests?

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    What does a guy have to do to get an evil karma adjustment for so many of these quests?

    Sell it to Abe and then shoot him in the head.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Murder isn't really a good way to get negative karma. Neither is theivery. You have to kill a WHOLE LOT of people to make any sort of real impact on your karma standing.

    And I haven't done Stealing Independence yet, so I don't want to kill Abe. Speaking of Stealing Independence, is there an evil solution to that quest?

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  • TubeTube Working As Intended Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited June 2009
    You're going to max out your karma either way incredibly easy so it's really not worth worrying about to the degree that people seem to. If you're in negative karma at all, you're getting all the "benefits" of it. Relax about always trying to find the evilest way out.

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    See, the problem is, I'm not evil karma. Every time I complete a quest, I get either a positive adjustment, or no adjustment at all. I haven't blown up Megaton yet, because I'm still doing Moira's book quest. I guess perhaps what I should have done is talked her out of writing the book and then just blown up megaton at like level 3.

    But there's just so much more XP to be had if you complete her book.

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