man I don't know, borat worked, but homophobia is still very relevant and I'm kinda thinking this movie will encourage it more than stop it
My sentiments exactly. Cretins aren't going to watch this and think, "Oh man, homophobia is silly!", they're just going to think, "lol look at that faggot waving his knob about... gaaaay"
Because an entertainment movie MUST serve a larger social purpose!
It totally doesn't have to, but it does make it worse if it serves the purpose of enabling discrimination against a group of people
How many Black Comedies (racial, not tone) do you think care about that?
I'll have you know that I saw several Klan members force their tattoo ink straight out of their skin through sheer force of will after a viewing of Undercover Brother.
man I don't know, borat worked, but homophobia is still very relevant and I'm kinda thinking this movie will encourage it more than stop it
My sentiments exactly. Cretins aren't going to watch this and think, "Oh man, homophobia is silly!", they're just going to think, "lol look at that faggot waving his knob about... gaaaay"
Because an entertainment movie MUST serve a larger social purpose!
It totally doesn't have to, but it does make it worse if it serves the purpose of enabling discrimination against a group of people
How many Black Comedies (racial, not tone) do you think care about that?
You don't see a difference in a comdedy made by a subset of people making fun of that subset, and a comedy making fun of a subset without being part of it?
Brüno as a racial comedy would be a white guy in blackface making fun of blacks, for example.
man I don't know, borat worked, but homophobia is still very relevant and I'm kinda thinking this movie will encourage it more than stop it
My sentiments exactly. Cretins aren't going to watch this and think, "Oh man, homophobia is silly!", they're just going to think, "lol look at that faggot waving his knob about... gaaaay"
Because an entertainment movie MUST serve a larger social purpose!
It totally doesn't have to, but it does make it worse if it serves the purpose of enabling discrimination against a group of people
How many Black Comedies (racial, not tone) do you think care about that?
You don't see a difference in a comdedy made by a subset of people making fun of that subset, and a comedy making fun of a subset without being part of it?
Brüno as a racial comedy would be a white guy in blackface making fun of blacks, for example.
So you're saying that if a gay guy made the same exact movie it would have been okay?
I'm just saying, if you want to get all hoighty-toighty, and discuss the cultural ramifications of a stupid comedy movie, I'm happy to match you.
At the end of the day, you're being an idiot, because the type of people who you think would have their homophobic stereotypes reinforced aren't going to sit through an opening scene of dude-on-dude anal-play, much less the tons of other explicit content in the movie.
man I don't know, borat worked, but homophobia is still very relevant and I'm kinda thinking this movie will encourage it more than stop it
My sentiments exactly. Cretins aren't going to watch this and think, "Oh man, homophobia is silly!", they're just going to think, "lol look at that faggot waving his knob about... gaaaay"
Because an entertainment movie MUST serve a larger social purpose!
It totally doesn't have to, but it does make it worse if it serves the purpose of enabling discrimination against a group of people
How many Black Comedies (racial, not tone) do you think care about that?
You don't see a difference in a comdedy made by a subset of people making fun of that subset, and a comedy making fun of a subset without being part of it?
Brüno as a racial comedy would be a white guy in blackface making fun of blacks, for example.
So you're saying that if a gay guy made the same exact movie it would have been okay?
Why? Because it's "empowering"?
You compared it to black comedies, which is not a sound comparison imo, which I tried to show. I'm not going to argue for your invalid comparison :P
Of course it would be something else if it was made by a gay guy, or do you somehow refuse the notion that a group can empower itself by trying to ridicule negative stereotypes/words attached to them?
I'm just saying, if you want to get all hoighty-toighty, and discuss the cultural ramifications of a stupid comedy movie, I'm happy to match you.
At the end of the day, you're being an idiot, because the type of people who you think would have their homophobic stereotypes reinforced aren't going to sit through an opening scene of dude-on-dude anal-play, much less the tons of other explicit content in the movie.
Even a "stupid comedy movie" has impact. Do you really think there aren't going to be any people watching this movie, thinking "Haha, fags, they're so silly! And disgusting!"?
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I'm just saying, if you want to get all hoighty-toighty, and discuss the cultural ramifications of a stupid comedy movie, I'm happy to match you.
At the end of the day, you're being an idiot, because the type of people who you think would have their homophobic stereotypes reinforced aren't going to sit through an opening scene of dude-on-dude anal-play, much less the tons of other explicit content in the movie.
Even a "stupid comedy movie" has impact. Do you really think there aren't going to be any people watching this movie, thinking "Haha, fags, they're so silly! And disgusting!"?
people who believe anything aren't worth convincing of anything.
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A magician gives you a ring that, when worn, will let you see the world as it truly is.
However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
I'm just saying, if you want to get all hoighty-toighty, and discuss the cultural ramifications of a stupid comedy movie, I'm happy to match you.
At the end of the day, you're being an idiot, because the type of people who you think would have their homophobic stereotypes reinforced aren't going to sit through an opening scene of dude-on-dude anal-play, much less the tons of other explicit content in the movie.
Even a "stupid comedy movie" has impact. Do you really think there aren't going to be any people watching this movie, thinking "Haha, fags, they're so silly! And disgusting!"?
people who believe anything aren't worth convincing of anything.
Social changes happen through slow paradigm shifts, or as someone might say "The TV is destroying our youth!"
The more often a certain idea is reinforced, the more it becomes a part of accepted mainstream reality. This works both ways.
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ZoelI suppose... I'd put it onRegistered Userregular
I'm just saying, if you want to get all hoighty-toighty, and discuss the cultural ramifications of a stupid comedy movie, I'm happy to match you.
At the end of the day, you're being an idiot, because the type of people who you think would have their homophobic stereotypes reinforced aren't going to sit through an opening scene of dude-on-dude anal-play, much less the tons of other explicit content in the movie.
Even a "stupid comedy movie" has impact. Do you really think there aren't going to be any people watching this movie, thinking "Haha, fags, they're so silly! And disgusting!"?
people who believe anything aren't worth convincing of anything.
Social changes happen through slow paradigm shifts, or as someone might say "The TV is destroying our youth!"
The more often a certain idea is reinforced, the more it becomes a part of accepted mainstream reality. This works both ways.
Yeah I guess you could keep people from ideas that are too dangerous for them on account of their lack of education but I don't really think that's a great long term plan.
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A magician gives you a ring that, when worn, will let you see the world as it truly is.
However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
man I don't know, borat worked, but homophobia is still very relevant and I'm kinda thinking this movie will encourage it more than stop it
My sentiments exactly. Cretins aren't going to watch this and think, "Oh man, homophobia is silly!", they're just going to think, "lol look at that faggot waving his knob about... gaaaay"
Because an entertainment movie MUST serve a larger social purpose!
It totally doesn't have to, but it does make it worse if it serves the purpose of enabling discrimination against a group of people
How many Black Comedies (racial, not tone) do you think care about that?
You don't see a difference in a comdedy made by a subset of people making fun of that subset, and a comedy making fun of a subset without being part of it?
Brüno as a racial comedy would be a white guy in blackface making fun of blacks, for example.
So you're saying that if a gay guy made the same exact movie it would have been okay?
Why? Because it's "empowering"?
You compared it to black comedies, which is not a sound comparison imo, which I tried to show. I'm not going to argue for your invalid comparison :P
Of course it would be something else if it was made by a gay guy, or do you somehow refuse the notion that a group can empower itself by trying to ridicule negative stereotypes/words attached to them?
Of course I don't.
But I ALSO don't ascribe to the notion that the labels given to a person change EVERYTHING about what they are saying.
I'm just saying, if you want to get all hoighty-toighty, and discuss the cultural ramifications of a stupid comedy movie, I'm happy to match you.
At the end of the day, you're being an idiot, because the type of people who you think would have their homophobic stereotypes reinforced aren't going to sit through an opening scene of dude-on-dude anal-play, much less the tons of other explicit content in the movie.
Even a "stupid comedy movie" has impact. Do you really think there aren't going to be any people watching this movie, thinking "Haha, fags, they're so silly! And disgusting!"?
And those people are sitting through the opening scene? (Let alone the focus group...)
You are INVENTING scenarios in order to be outraged.
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How many Black Comedies (racial, not tone) do you think care about that?
Brüno as a racial comedy would be a white guy in blackface making fun of blacks, for example.
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oh dang
Doctor Who will probably play Bilbo Baggins
but still awesome!
there is a thread for only movie news you moron
this is not the most "movieish thread"
without [ ... ] - the fuck I search though all threads and their obscure titles.
So you're saying that if a gay guy made the same exact movie it would have been okay?
Why? Because it's "empowering"?
it's called Queue Up
there are you happy?
At the end of the day, you're being an idiot, because the type of people who you think would have their homophobic stereotypes reinforced aren't going to sit through an opening scene of dude-on-dude anal-play, much less the tons of other explicit content in the movie.
Yes, thank you.
You compared it to black comedies, which is not a sound comparison imo, which I tried to show. I'm not going to argue for your invalid comparison :P
Of course it would be something else if it was made by a gay guy, or do you somehow refuse the notion that a group can empower itself by trying to ridicule negative stereotypes/words attached to them?
Even a "stupid comedy movie" has impact. Do you really think there aren't going to be any people watching this movie, thinking "Haha, fags, they're so silly! And disgusting!"?
people who believe anything aren't worth convincing of anything.
However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
Social changes happen through slow paradigm shifts, or as someone might say "The TV is destroying our youth!"
The more often a certain idea is reinforced, the more it becomes a part of accepted mainstream reality. This works both ways.
Yeah I guess you could keep people from ideas that are too dangerous for them on account of their lack of education but I don't really think that's a great long term plan.
However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
what the fuck, world
What spring does with the cherry trees.
can we all agree on that instead of having the summer semester of high school debate up in here
I haven't seen it myself, but what I've heard, I can see a reasonable person not finding it funny or unfunny.
What spring does with the cherry trees.
but my opinion in the best and here is a paragraph addressing the matter:
a 72 year old man using the word queer hardly qualifies him as homophobic
i dont really care
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Of course I don't.
But I ALSO don't ascribe to the notion that the labels given to a person change EVERYTHING about what they are saying.
Empowerment does not SOLELY come from within.
And those people are sitting through the opening scene? (Let alone the focus group...)
You are INVENTING scenarios in order to be outraged.
not even icing.
Old man using the word "queer" doesn't mean shit.
And most folks, including plenty of dudes who actually ARE gay would have left the room at the point where a strange man starts disrobing.
I'm no fan of Ron Paul, but that was really the low-point of the movie.