Rainfall - The Prisim
Started off with the power of violet, one shot avoid a seer
Told she had to get the powers of Orange/Green/Red/Blue
If she had asked me what the hell she would have got Orange, the power of Clarfication
If she had come second in the red vote, she would have got Red, the power of vigging
If she had got a solid number of retractions on her (exact number depends on current size of player base) She would have gotten green, the power of guarding
If any of the eight had targeted her with their original powers, she would have got Blue, the power of draining
and if she had gotten all 5, she would have unlocked the Spectrum Cannon, which would have melted three people in the thread.
You are fucking SHITTING ME.
Also you have to post the Horse PM that you never wrote.
Rainfall - The Prisim
Started off with the power of violet, one shot avoid a seer
Told she had to get the powers of Orange/Green/Red/Blue
If she had asked me what the hell she would have got Orange, the power of Clarfication
If she had come second in the red vote, she would have got Red, the power of vigging
If she had got a solid number of retractions on her (exact number depends on current size of player base) She would have gotten green, the power of guarding
If any of the eight had targeted her with their original powers, she would have got Blue, the power of draining
and if she had gotten all 5, she would have unlocked the Spectrum Cannon, which would have melted three people in the thread.
You are fucking SHITTING ME.
Also you have to post the Horse PM that you never wrote.
No no I meant the fact that Rainfall was expected to have done all of those things. Someone else ordered the walking reference book.
Edit: Also as it occurred to me halfway through the game, it'd have been awesome if someone had given the horse an item. or atleast have let the confirmed villager be part of a network if only to read what was going on.
Dunno what the big deal is, really. I didn't want to make the game drag on any longer than it had to, and the only person that was hurt by me ignoring the 'corrupted' addition to my role was me, so...
Also, if PowerPuppies posts exactly what he was told in PM, his actions become a little more understandable. He was told that if all the other Grey Men were gone, he would maybe revert to what he used to be before then. By the host.
But like you all said, Gumpy is a dick.
it would not have dragged the game out at all which is what you don't seem to understand.
Considering that right now, if I'd used the Corruption power, there'd be three Redeemed and three Corrupted, it would either be: the game continues until one outnumber the other, or all Redeemed/Corrupted lose. Either way, I still 'lose', so I didn't gain anything from using it or not using it.
What, exactly, am I not understanding?
You couldn't have known that you would lose in advance so that argument doesn't work. Not trying to win in a game is stupid as fuck.
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Rainfall - The Prisim
Started off with the power of violet, one shot avoid a seer
Told she had to get the powers of Orange/Green/Red/Blue
If she had asked me what the hell she would have got Orange, the power of Clarfication
If she had come second in the red vote, she would have got Red, the power of vigging
If she had got a solid number of retractions on her (exact number depends on current size of player base) She would have gotten green, the power of guarding
If any of the eight had targeted her with their original powers, she would have got Blue, the power of draining
and if she had gotten all 5, she would have unlocked the Spectrum Cannon, which would have melted three people in the thread.
You are fucking SHITTING ME.
Also you have to post the Horse PM that you never wrote.
Dunno what the big deal is, really. I didn't want to make the game drag on any longer than it had to, and the only person that was hurt by me ignoring the 'corrupted' addition to my role was me, so...
Also, if PowerPuppies posts exactly what he was told in PM, his actions become a little more understandable. He was told that if all the other Grey Men were gone, he would maybe revert to what he used to be before then. By the host.
But like you all said, Gumpy is a dick.
it would not have dragged the game out at all which is what you don't seem to understand.
Considering that right now, if I'd used the Corruption power, there'd be three Redeemed and three Corrupted, it would either be: the game continues until one outnumber the other, or all Redeemed/Corrupted lose. Either way, I still 'lose', so I didn't gain anything from using it or not using it.
What, exactly, am I not understanding?
so you would have targetted 3 people who werent corrupted who survived? never targetted anyone who actually died?
oh I guess you didn't understand that only alive corruption/redemption people would be counted.
Dunno what the big deal is, really. I didn't want to make the game drag on any longer than it had to, and the only person that was hurt by me ignoring the 'corrupted' addition to my role was me, so...
Also, if PowerPuppies posts exactly what he was told in PM, his actions become a little more understandable. He was told that if all the other Grey Men were gone, he would maybe revert to what he used to be before then. By the host.
But like you all said, Gumpy is a dick.
it would not have dragged the game out at all which is what you don't seem to understand.
Considering that right now, if I'd used the Corruption power, there'd be three Redeemed and three Corrupted, it would either be: the game continues until one outnumber the other, or all Redeemed/Corrupted lose. Either way, I still 'lose', so I didn't gain anything from using it or not using it.
What, exactly, am I not understanding?
so you would have targetted 3 people who werent corrupted who survived? never targetted anyone who actually died?
oh I guess you didn't understand that only alive corruption/redemption people would be counted.
silly you....
yeah I don't really know what's hard to understand about this.
I successfully guarded the lover day 1, got networked with Kay via that, and Ultros64 seered me and saw me guarding. I was gonna build upon that but then I got killed! Woooo.
You couldn't have known that you would lose in advance so that argument doesn't work. Not trying to win in a game is stupid as fuck.
I can't really speak for any of the other converted, but I wasn't certain whether my new win condition was an AND or OR conditional. I know I wasn't trying too hard to fulfill the Redeemed win condition.
Also, wow, that Zot-Infidel crypto-communication is some epic shit right there.
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A SNEAK PREVIEW OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN FOR MY MAIN GAME, it could potentially be ANY of these ideas or something else.
Interesting 1, and a whole load of angry people free from the System, reunite with the Rebel Coalition and rage war against Emperor Romantic Undead and the Beastmen
Perkins and his Lord arrive back home to report about the Dragon, and the world it came from, and start a chain reaction that would cause FUSOG to enter inter dimensional war against the Beastman Empire and the reforming Interesting 8
Gumpyverse and Edcrabverse crossover
Welcome aboard our fantastical castle, I hope you enjoy your stay
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You couldn't have known that you would lose in advance so that argument doesn't work. Not trying to win in a game is stupid as fuck.
I can't really speak for any of the other converted, but I wasn't certain whether my new win condition was an AND or OR conditional. I know I wasn't trying too hard to fulfill the Redeemed win condition.
It was made pretty frank when Gumpy said main condition don't change so you couldn't win through just that. It was a definite "and".
Edit - Also theres a big difference between not trying too hard to achieve your secondary win condition versus not sending orders at all and ignoring your secondary win condition.
Faction 2: Servants of the Old Gods
Faction 6: The AntiVirals/Wardens/Grey Men
Masoned Mafia with a kill, the ability to post a narration slice, A thrall and a miller. Their main strength was (What I assumed) would be control of the yellow vote early game, but they never really acted on their vast networked numbers.
The problem with controlling a public yellow vote is that it is very, very hard to come up with a way to make a vote that is completely useless to the village, but does not reveal them as the bad guys, and to have everyone voting on it establishes a very dangerous block once someone starts to put stuff in a spreadsheet. Plus, you said we couldn't use it as a red vote in OP. Clearly you lied...
Also, clearly, they were functionally retarded.... so that didn't help in their favor.
Except Julius Ceazure. He's a cool frood. I'd lend him my towel.
And totally off topic, CorpseRT should post how he targeted all the Of the 8 guys. It will make them sad.
If the wardens had all died, but the keepers had survived, then the village would still have won (In a way), the eight would have lost (along with everyone else who wanted the Dragon)
Dur... WAT!
Damnit.
Would the keepers have won, or lost, or drawn?
You couldn't have known that you would lose in advance so that argument doesn't work. Not trying to win in a game is stupid as fuck.
I can't really speak for any of the other converted, but I wasn't certain whether my new win condition was an AND or OR conditional. I know I wasn't trying too hard to fulfill the Redeemed win condition.
It was made pretty frank when Gumpy said main condition don't change so you couldn't win through just that. It was a definite "and".
... that doesn't make it clear at all.
"Eliminate the grey men" or "Outnumber the corrupted/redeemed", vs "Eliminate the grey men" and "Outnumber the corrupted/redeemed". In neither of those cases has the base win condition ("Eliminate the grey men") changed.
I mean, I could have asked. But man. Effort. Also, my death enabled the appearance of the almight Redeemer Horse. :^:
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If the wardens had all died, but the keepers had survived, then the village would still have won (In a way), the eight would have lost (along with everyone else who wanted the Dragon)
Dur... WAT!
Damnit.
Would the keepers have won, or lost, or drawn?
Considering that the two people I would have Corrupted, if I used the power, were Powerpuppies and DundedainJedi, then yeah, there'd be three of each.
Besides, my primary win condition was to eliminate the Grey Men and claim the Dragon, the corrupted/redeemed thing was an addon and, to be frank, an unnecessary complication on top of an already overcomplicated mini.
Then again, I have no idea what the Interesting War that some of you are talking about was, so...
In the last few days, my aim was to break the game wide open along with people on all sides, mainly because of the chaos seeded in just about every faction. Earlier on, I was content to pull enough strings to get Dunadan killed because a) he tried to kill me day one (and, I'm sure, will always try this if he has a vig power :P ), and b) it wasn't clear at that point in time whether he was good or neutral or whatever.
All I'm getting here is two people that are sore 'cause I was responsible for them dying. S'cute.
You couldn't have known that you would lose in advance so that argument doesn't work. Not trying to win in a game is stupid as fuck.
I can't really speak for any of the other converted, but I wasn't certain whether my new win condition was an AND or OR conditional. I know I wasn't trying too hard to fulfill the Redeemed win condition.
Also, wow, that Zot-Infidel crypto-communication is some epic shit right there.
When I became redeemer I went out of my way to convert people I thought would survive.
DA hadn't got offed in the first two days so he was a good bet, and Eipnoom seemed like someone no one would bother targeting on the last day.
Edit:
All I'm getting here is two people that are sore 'cause I was responsible for them dying. S'cute.
No I'm pretty sure not playing to win is always a bad idea.
Considering that the two people I would have Corrupted, if I used the power, were Powerpuppies and DundedainJedi, then yeah, there'd be three of each.
Besides, my primary win condition was to eliminate the Grey Men and claim the Dragon, the corrupted/redeemed thing was an addon and, to be frank, an unnecessary complication on top of an already overcomplicated mini.
Then again, I have no idea what the Interesting War that some of you are talking about was, so...
In the last few days, my aim was to break the game wide open along with people on all sides, mainly because of the chaos seeded in just about every faction. Earlier on, I was content to pull enough strings to get Dunadan killed because a) he tried to kill me day one (and, I'm sure, will always try this if he has a vig power :P ), and b) it wasn't clear at that point in time whether he was good or neutral or whatever.
All I'm getting here is two people that are sore 'cause I was responsible for them dying. S'cute.
I don't even care that you killed me the fact that you IGNORED A FUCKING WIN CONDITION is what angers me. Its not that you didn't even try that hard, its that you didn't even try and just ignored a part of the game. Turning it into a whole "oh they are mad because I killed them" argument is stupid too.
If you were a redeemed who hadn't killed me and ignored your win condition I would still be just as mad.
by the way, I trusted Dunedainjedi because I didn't think he could kill me and nobody would claim to be the beast to try to avoid the vote unless it was actually true.
I was hoping to use him as a 3rd vig even though I was pretty sure he was an SK (you don't give a neutral that needs to survive a kill)
but NOOOOO
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So now I need to cowrite ACTION Phalla, and also continue working on my Mecha based D20 Tabletop war game (Test games against myself have been lonely and successful)
Considering that the two people I would have Corrupted, if I used the power, were Powerpuppies and DundedainJedi, then yeah, there'd be three of each.
Besides, my primary win condition was to eliminate the Grey Men and claim the Dragon, the corrupted/redeemed thing was an addon and, to be frank, an unnecessary complication on top of an already overcomplicated mini.
Then again, I have no idea what the Interesting War that some of you are talking about was, so...
In the last few days, my aim was to break the game wide open along with people on all sides, mainly because of the chaos seeded in just about every faction. Earlier on, I was content to pull enough strings to get Dunadan killed because a) he tried to kill me day one (and, I'm sure, will always try this if he has a vig power :P ), and b) it wasn't clear at that point in time whether he was good or neutral or whatever.
All I'm getting here is two people that are sore 'cause I was responsible for them dying. S'cute.
the fact that noone here is agreeing with you should be a clue.
Considering that the two people I would have Corrupted, if I used the power, were Powerpuppies and DundedainJedi, then yeah, there'd be three of each.
Besides, my primary win condition was to eliminate the Grey Men and claim the Dragon, the corrupted/redeemed thing was an addon and, to be frank, an unnecessary complication on top of an already overcomplicated mini.
Then again, I have no idea what the Interesting War that some of you are talking about was, so...
In the last few days, my aim was to break the game wide open along with people on all sides, mainly because of the chaos seeded in just about every faction. Earlier on, I was content to pull enough strings to get Dunadan killed because a) he tried to kill me day one (and, I'm sure, will always try this if he has a vig power :P ), and b) it wasn't clear at that point in time whether he was good or neutral or whatever.
All I'm getting here is two people that are sore 'cause I was responsible for them dying. S'cute.
Yeah, listen, you didn't kill me, but I think it's pretty obnoxious to not even TRY to puruse your win condition. It would be one thing if you had not pulled out all the stops, but you had the ability to pursue your win con and then you just decided to not use that ability. The mind boggles.
If the wardens had all died, but the keepers had survived, then the village would still have won (In a way), the eight would have lost (along with everyone else who wanted the Dragon)
Dur... WAT!
Damnit.
Would the keepers have won, or lost, or drawn?
Survival would have made it a keeper win
Aww man. You said we couldn't win with the village in that narration thing. I'm sad now.
I would have actually been a terrible person and gotten the wardens killed on purpose if I'd known that.
(well... excepting that obviously they were already well underway to that goal...)
I don't even care that you killed me the fact that you IGNORED A FUCKING WIN CONDITION is what angers me. Its not that you didn't even try that hard, its that you didn't even try and just ignored a part of the game. Turning it into a whole "oh they are mad because I killed them" argument is stupid too.
If you were a redeemed who hadn't killed me and ignored your win condition I would still be just as mad.
I get it, you're mad. The only person that lost out in this situation is me, though.
I don't even care that you killed me the fact that you IGNORED A FUCKING WIN CONDITION is what angers me. Its not that you didn't even try that hard, its that you didn't even try and just ignored a part of the game. Turning it into a whole "oh they are mad because I killed them" argument is stupid too.
If you were a redeemed who hadn't killed me and ignored your win condition I would still be just as mad.
I get it, you're mad. The only person that lost out in this situation is me, though.
And anyone you would have converted. It was included in the game for a reason.
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If the wardens had all died, but the keepers had survived, then the village would still have won (In a way), the eight would have lost (along with everyone else who wanted the Dragon)
Dur... WAT!
Damnit.
Would the keepers have won, or lost, or drawn?
Survival would have made it a keeper win
Aww man. You said we couldn't win with the village in that narration thing. I'm sad now.
I would have actually been a terrible person and gotten the wardens killed on purpose if I'd known that.
(well... excepting that obviously they were already well underway to that goal...)
If you had survived then the village would have returned to delicious tranquillity
I don't even care that you killed me the fact that you IGNORED A FUCKING WIN CONDITION is what angers me. Its not that you didn't even try that hard, its that you didn't even try and just ignored a part of the game. Turning it into a whole "oh they are mad because I killed them" argument is stupid too.
If you were a redeemed who hadn't killed me and ignored your win condition I would still be just as mad.
I get it, you're mad. The only person that lost out in this situation is me, though.
You should seriously always play for your own win goals in the future though.
Because when people don't, the game goes sideways and it can spoil the game or fun of others/everyone.
I don't even care that you killed me the fact that you IGNORED A FUCKING WIN CONDITION is what angers me. Its not that you didn't even try that hard, its that you didn't even try and just ignored a part of the game. Turning it into a whole "oh they are mad because I killed them" argument is stupid too.
If you were a redeemed who hadn't killed me and ignored your win condition I would still be just as mad.
I get it, you're mad. The only person that lost out in this situation is me, though.
And anyone you would have converted. It was included in the game for a reason.
Yeah, that's like saying, if the mafia in a normal game decided just not to use their kills, the only person that loses out is them. Well, that doesn't make a difference -- it still lessens the enjoyment of the game as a whole.
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Do you... do you just have all the old phallas archived in your mind or something? :P Hm. I guess Gumpy liked the colourus role!
Why did his kill log as something different?
No no I meant the fact that Rainfall was expected to have done all of those things. Someone else ordered the walking reference book.
Edit: Also as it occurred to me halfway through the game, it'd have been awesome if someone had given the horse an item. or atleast have let the confirmed villager be part of a network if only to read what was going on.
You couldn't have known that you would lose in advance so that argument doesn't work. Not trying to win in a game is stupid as fuck.
Colourus survived the war and found the ideal servants in the form of a badly bruised Spectrum 5
Gumpyverse and Edcrabverse crossover
so you would have targetted 3 people who werent corrupted who survived? never targetted anyone who actually died?
oh I guess you didn't understand that only alive corruption/redemption people would be counted.
silly you....
yeah I don't really know what's hard to understand about this.
Wooo cryptoquotes! I translated that but couldn't make sense of it at first.
Last of the seven rays, the unwilling betrayer
Follow the white rabbit
Seek out the place where we last met
Too late, I realized what it meant.
Last of the seven rays, ROYGBIV, violet? Unwilling betrayer?
OOOO SHIT, SPECTRUM VIOLET (ZOT) KILLED SPECTRUM YELLOW (ME) IN DISGAEA.
So there was this post waiting on our old proboards.
http://spectrumfive.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=14
Sorry that I didn't figure it out until after my death, Zot.
then I might have actually gotten to kill someone.
I can't really speak for any of the other converted, but I wasn't certain whether my new win condition was an AND or OR conditional. I know I wasn't trying too hard to fulfill the Redeemed win condition.
Also, wow, that Zot-Infidel crypto-communication is some epic shit right there.
It was made pretty frank when Gumpy said main condition don't change so you couldn't win through just that. It was a definite "and".
Edit - Also theres a big difference between not trying too hard to achieve your secondary win condition versus not sending orders at all and ignoring your secondary win condition.
Also, clearly, they were functionally retarded.... so that didn't help in their favor.
Except Julius Ceazure. He's a cool frood. I'd lend him my towel.
And totally off topic, CorpseRT should post how he targeted all the Of the 8 guys. It will make them sad.
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Oh wait... was I Interesting 1 in the Interesting Eight game? I can't remember...
We will get the flying device and turrets done in time, I swear it
Damnit.
Would the keepers have won, or lost, or drawn?
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... that doesn't make it clear at all.
"Eliminate the grey men" or "Outnumber the corrupted/redeemed", vs "Eliminate the grey men" and "Outnumber the corrupted/redeemed". In neither of those cases has the base win condition ("Eliminate the grey men") changed.
I mean, I could have asked. But man. Effort. Also, my death enabled the appearance of the almight Redeemer Horse. :^:
Survival would have made it a keeper win
This was not here before
Also have I mentioned that I am gay for Gumpy
Because, for Gumpy, I am gay
Besides, my primary win condition was to eliminate the Grey Men and claim the Dragon, the corrupted/redeemed thing was an addon and, to be frank, an unnecessary complication on top of an already overcomplicated mini.
Then again, I have no idea what the Interesting War that some of you are talking about was, so...
In the last few days, my aim was to break the game wide open along with people on all sides, mainly because of the chaos seeded in just about every faction. Earlier on, I was content to pull enough strings to get Dunadan killed because a) he tried to kill me day one (and, I'm sure, will always try this if he has a vig power :P ), and b) it wasn't clear at that point in time whether he was good or neutral or whatever.
All I'm getting here is two people that are sore 'cause I was responsible for them dying. S'cute.
When I became redeemer I went out of my way to convert people I thought would survive.
DA hadn't got offed in the first two days so he was a good bet, and Eipnoom seemed like someone no one would bother targeting on the last day.
Edit:
No I'm pretty sure not playing to win is always a bad idea.
I also used this logic. For who would wish to kill the horse? Although, wait, you converted DA too?
I don't even care that you killed me the fact that you IGNORED A FUCKING WIN CONDITION is what angers me. Its not that you didn't even try that hard, its that you didn't even try and just ignored a part of the game. Turning it into a whole "oh they are mad because I killed them" argument is stupid too.
If you were a redeemed who hadn't killed me and ignored your win condition I would still be just as mad.
I was hoping to use him as a 3rd vig even though I was pretty sure he was an SK (you don't give a neutral that needs to survive a kill)
but NOOOOO
Hooray for me
the fact that noone here is agreeing with you should be a clue.
Yeah, listen, you didn't kill me, but I think it's pretty obnoxious to not even TRY to puruse your win condition. It would be one thing if you had not pulled out all the stops, but you had the ability to pursue your win con and then you just decided to not use that ability. The mind boggles.
Aww man. You said we couldn't win with the village in that narration thing. I'm sad now.
I would have actually been a terrible person and gotten the wardens killed on purpose if I'd known that.
(well... excepting that obviously they were already well underway to that goal...)
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I get it, you're mad. The only person that lost out in this situation is me, though.
And anyone you would have converted. It was included in the game for a reason.
If you had survived then the village would have returned to delicious tranquillity
Does that count as a victory?
Who knows
You should seriously always play for your own win goals in the future though.
Because when people don't, the game goes sideways and it can spoil the game or fun of others/everyone.
Just do it cause it's the right thing to do! :^:
Yeah, that's like saying, if the mafia in a normal game decided just not to use their kills, the only person that loses out is them. Well, that doesn't make a difference -- it still lessens the enjoyment of the game as a whole.
We need to talk about Erich Zahn.
Big ol' crackhead, or biggest crackhead?
If he ever becomes some kind of village figurehead again we should immediately vote him out.