New COMIC Thread 6-24-09

KalTorak

Burden of Proof wrote: »

If you can't find the time to get an actor who is good for the part and actually looks like the character, it doesn't exactly bode well for the film.

Also it's because I'm a huge racist.

I think they said that at the time the only white guys they could come up with who looked remotely like the Kingpin were random pro-wrestlers. All things considered, I'm OK with him being black and Michael Clarke Duncan.

It's not like the Kingpin was just a dude with a certain color hair; he was a sophisticated, bald, illegitimate businessman who happened to be toting around like 500 pounds. There isn't a huge pool of actors who can just jump into that. (Although after Tropic Thunder, maybe they can have Tom Cruise be Kingpin when they reboot Daredevil).

The Geebs That Is A Pony

Burden of Proof wrote: »

I'd actually watch Daredevil or Electra over the Fantastic Four movies.

Cardboard Tube wrote: »

The other two good ones are Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin and CJ in San Andreas for watching nerds splutter about trying not to sound racist when their view essentially boils down to "fuck black people!"

I don't see how one is comparable to the other. CJ wasn't an established character of a popular intellectual property. The Kingpin was. Yeah, I hate it when they needlessly change the ethnicity for characters of established IPs. I don't see how it is any different from hating that they completely changed a character's costume or hairstyle.

you can't have a white guy as huge and imposing as michael clarke duncan is

he is absolutely perfect for the role of kingpin and if they reboot daredevil I want him to be cast in the role again

ThatDudeOverThere

Raneados wrote: »

killer tofu

rane I want you to know that I appreciated this post

Burden of Proof

Hey, I didn't think Michael Clarke Duncan did a bad job or anything. I just don't buy the idea that there are no large white men in Hollywood. I'm wondering how you people would have reacted to a black Sulu or a native American Captain America.

That last example would actually be kind of cool.

KalTorak

Burden of Proof wrote: »

Hey, I didn't think Michael Clarke Duncan did a bad job or anything. I just don't buy the idea that there are no large white men in Hollywood. I'm wondering how you people would have reacted to a black Sulu or a native American Captain America.

That last example would actually be kind of cool.

Marvel 1602 style - woo!

I'm sure there are large white guys in Hollywood. I think there are significantly less of them with acting chops like Michael Clarke Duncan.

The Geebs That Is A Pony

ralphie may as kingpin please

Peter Ebel

The guy that plays Detective Sergeant Jay Landsmann on the Wire as Kingpin.

The Geebs That Is A Pony

sammo hung as kingpin

Hunter

Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as Kingpin.

Peter Ebel

Robocop as Kingpin.

Rankenphile

Warwick Davis as Kingpin.

TiB

huh... so guys, Farrah Fawcett died this morning

Tube

Burden of Proof wrote: »

Hey, I didn't think Michael Clarke Duncan did a bad job or anything. I just don't buy the idea that there are no large white men in Hollywood. I'm wondering how you people would have reacted to a black Sulu or a native American Captain America.

That last example would actually be kind of cool.

But Sulu's race has an actual function in the setting. The Kingpin's doesn't. There has literally never been a prominent plotline in the marvel universe in which the Kingpin's race played a prominent part. It's an irrelevance. It's interesting that no one gave a shit that the Spartans in 300 were manifestly not of mediteranean origin but there is a collective monocle pop over a black guy being so uppity as to think he can play the Kingpin. Which he did very well.

Moriveth

I haven't seen Daredevil, but Duncan seems like a perfect choice for the Kingpin.

nosnibor

Did we ever find out how the second poll (Lookouts vs. Automata) turned out?

AMP'd

Jim Darkmagic won

Druhim

they both won

Druhim

Burning Organ

Just like in preschool.

Everybody wins!

BusterK

I'm guessing they just said, "Fuck it" and decided to do Lookouts first
They seemed pretty excited about it
And then they're gonna do Automata

BusterK

:database error:

Horseshoe

Michael Clarke Duncan was a much better kingpin than John Rhys-Davies

Me Too!

BusterK wrote: »

I'm guessing they just said, "Fuck it"
And decided to do Lookouts first
They seemed pretty excited about it
And then they'll do Automata

no they're going to do Berk's Automata Lookouts obviously

Druhim

Pony

Cardboard Tube wrote: »

Burden of Proof wrote: »

Hey, I didn't think Michael Clarke Duncan did a bad job or anything. I just don't buy the idea that there are no large white men in Hollywood. I'm wondering how you people would have reacted to a black Sulu or a native American Captain America.

That last example would actually be kind of cool.

But Sulu's race has an actual function in the setting. The Kingpin's doesn't. There has literally never been a prominent plotline in the marvel universe in which the Kingpin's race played a prominent part. It's an irrelevance. It's interesting that no one gave a shit that the Spartans in 300 were manifestly not of mediteranean origin but there is a collective monocle pop over a black guy being so uppity as to think he can play the Kingpin. Which he did very well.

collective monocle pop?

tube, you are a wordsmith

KalTorak

Druhim wrote: »

I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that Lookouts isn't available for purchase as a print.

If not, I hope it becomes available soon.

BusterK

Ugh
This is going to cause so much nerdrage
All getting their neckbeards in a twist
Typing furiously, "Where's my vote?"
Wearing silver armbands

Me Too!

How much do you wanna bet they're going to do them like two months in a row

Automata next month and Lookouts in August

Hunter

BusterK wrote: »

Ugh
This is going to cause so much nerdrage
All getting their neckbeards in a twist
Typing furiously, "Where's my vote?"
Wearing silver armbands

Riots in the streets. Special Police dressed like Frank shooting the protesters in the streets. Robert Khoo on TV as the Information Minister claiming nothing is wrong and the infidels are being killed at the gates of Pennies Arcades Headquarters.

AMP'd

BusterK wrote: »

:database error:

I couldn't access the forums from 2:30 to 5:00

Theidar

Hunter wrote: »

BusterK wrote: »

Ugh
This is going to cause so much nerdrage
All getting their neckbeards in a twist
Typing furiously, "Where's my vote?"
Wearing silver armbands

Riots in the streets. Special Police dressed like Frank shooting the protesters in the streets. Robert Khoo on TV as the Information Minister claiming nothing is wrong and the infidels are being killed at the gates of Pennies Arcades Headquarters.

Claiming the whole uprising is obviously being secretly backed by Scott Kurtz.

Theidar

AMP'd wrote: »

BusterK wrote: »

:database error:

I couldn't access the forums from 2:30 to 5:00

Me too.

Munkus Beaver

I would love to see an avatar movie starring Morgan Freeman.

I know nothing about avatar.

It's just that it's a movie starring Morgan Freeman with the possibility of flying and kung fu.

Mint.

Defender

Cardboard Tube wrote: »

Burden of Proof wrote: »

Hey, I didn't think Michael Clarke Duncan did a bad job or anything. I just don't buy the idea that there are no large white men in Hollywood. I'm wondering how you people would have reacted to a black Sulu or a native American Captain America.

That last example would actually be kind of cool.

But Sulu's race has an actual function in the setting. The Kingpin's doesn't. There has literally never been a prominent plotline in the marvel universe in which the Kingpin's race played a prominent part. It's an irrelevance. It's interesting that no one gave a shit that the Spartans in 300 were manifestly not of mediteranean origin but there is a collective monocle pop over a black guy being so uppity as to think he can play the Kingpin. Which he did very well.

To be fair here, 300 had basically nothing to do with real-world Sparta. I mean, "those dudes ain't Greek" gets trumped by them fighting armies of ninjas and troll-men and dwarves riding on freakmonsters and whatever else. Like zero percent of that story was accurate except the highest-level plot summary.

PiptheFair

Defender wrote: »

Cardboard Tube wrote: »

Burden of Proof wrote: »

Hey, I didn't think Michael Clarke Duncan did a bad job or anything. I just don't buy the idea that there are no large white men in Hollywood. I'm wondering how you people would have reacted to a black Sulu or a native American Captain America.

That last example would actually be kind of cool.

But Sulu's race has an actual function in the setting. The Kingpin's doesn't. There has literally never been a prominent plotline in the marvel universe in which the Kingpin's race played a prominent part. It's an irrelevance. It's interesting that no one gave a shit that the Spartans in 300 were manifestly not of mediteranean origin but there is a collective monocle pop over a black guy being so uppity as to think he can play the Kingpin. Which he did very well.

To be fair here, 300 had basically nothing to do with real-world Sparta. I mean, "those dudes ain't Greek" gets trumped by them fighting armies of ninjas and troll-men and dwarves riding on freakmonsters and whatever else. Like zero percent of that story was accurate except the highest-level plot summary.

also the rampant homophobia, even though the homosexual relationships were a major part of the entire culture

Kuribo's Shoe

Michael Clarke Duncan can be the kingpin anytime he wants

he's the best giant black man

Tony Lister Jr. is a close second

Kuribo's Shoe

Cardboard Tube wrote: »

The other two good ones are Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin and CJ in San Andreas for watching nerds splutter about trying not to sound racist when their view essentially boils down to "fuck black people!"

good lord I love you

Me Too!

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

Michael Clarke Duncan can be the kingpin anytime he wants

he's the best giant black man

Tony Lister Jr. is a close second

what about James Earl Jones

Fuckin' Sandlot man

Kuribo's Shoe

he's not big enough

Defender

PiptheFair wrote: »

Defender wrote: »

Cardboard Tube wrote: »

Burden of Proof wrote: »

Hey, I didn't think Michael Clarke Duncan did a bad job or anything. I just don't buy the idea that there are no large white men in Hollywood. I'm wondering how you people would have reacted to a black Sulu or a native American Captain America.

That last example would actually be kind of cool.

But Sulu's race has an actual function in the setting. The Kingpin's doesn't. There has literally never been a prominent plotline in the marvel universe in which the Kingpin's race played a prominent part. It's an irrelevance. It's interesting that no one gave a shit that the Spartans in 300 were manifestly not of mediteranean origin but there is a collective monocle pop over a black guy being so uppity as to think he can play the Kingpin. Which he did very well.

To be fair here, 300 had basically nothing to do with real-world Sparta. I mean, "those dudes ain't Greek" gets trumped by them fighting armies of ninjas and troll-men and dwarves riding on freakmonsters and whatever else. Like zero percent of that story was accurate except the highest-level plot summary.

also the rampant homophobia, even though the homosexual relationships were a major part of the entire culture

And yet the film was so incredibly homoerotic pretty much all the way through.