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Starcraft 2: No Lan Support
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Well sorry, I only have a passing interest in most Blizzard games and certainly do not play on battle.net.
I too cannot read the thread past the second page
Your sudden reversal of enthusiasm confounds me. :?
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You don't have to your battle.net account is just the same thing as your Blizzard store account now so you can make an account, tie your cd keys to it, then download any game you have registered from battle.net without needing the original cd.
How so? Starcraft itself has been out for ten or eleven years. Thats long enough for me to play the game, lose interest, lose disc, then get the game again years later.
I paid £15 for the set of CoH and OF. So no, I didn't. The thing is, CoH ALSO only came with one campaign, the point which I was making, much like the point about Dawn of War 2, both of which you seem to have sidestepped for yet another sarky dig. Which is kind of the problem.
EDIT: I can't say whether later iterations of SC2 will be worth whatever they're charging. But that has yet to be seen.
You are so wrong.
Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
Also, subedii, what I am trying to get across is that these could easily be expansions.
additions to goomba's massive girth, as his love handles already bridge the distance between computer chair arms
They figure, well, if we can make tons of extra money by selling each Race separately, why not release all past features separately. Oh, Replay feature will also available as DLC, only $4.99.
Of course nothing I just said is true, but not including LAN? Very weak sauce.
Out of curiosity have you read the thread past the first post?
an easy method to broadcast matches, for one
What I'm trying to get across is that they might be expansions, they might be priced that way, or they might be priced as full products and, crazily, actually worth the asking price because the content is of the size and quality I'd expect from a full sized release.
Right now: We. Do. Not. Know. Simply dismissing it as a pure money grab is stupid, and as I've stated before, I'm willing to wait and see because I feel I've gotten my value out of every other game of theirs that I've played to date.
EDIT: And to hold off yet another snide remark, yes I know that Blizzard's releases haven't been that frequent or recent outside of WoW. But this is my experience so far, so that's what I'm happy to go with whilst we wait until the actual release.
Because SC competitive play doesn't exist outside of Korea
WCG? What?
Sadly, for Starcraft 2's case my best bet is they're doing this to cut down on the people pirating the game and just playing it over lan. (Granted, I'm sure people will find work around with private servers sooner or later)
Also, is there a confirmation that LAN isn't supported for Diablo 3? I enjoyed playing custom mods back in the day. If it's true then I guess it forces people to play the original online like they're doing with Starcraft 2.
Really now. What program is that?
For the record I had to wiki what "WCG" even was.
Did you think I was serious?
Yes I've read over several pages of this thread. I attend a weekly SC LAN, where sometimes we don't have internet.
Why should they? They updated the online play with Brood War, online is going to continue to evolve way past the initial release, and I wouldn't expect them to release new stuff for free the same way they didn't with BW.
So...you didn't read the thread?
Anyone who plays competitively for any of the major games knows what WCG is, it's kind of a big deal
Thank you, I knew I should have gotten an expert as a guest speaker to begin with.
With the original, they eventually decided to release an expansion because of balance concerns(in multi) and story additions(in single). This time around, they've come out the gate telling me there are three games and they keep ramming this fully-featured shtick down my throat which points to meaning fully-priced. Hell, they could decide to add expansions to these later if they wished for even more content which boils down to a required unit or two for multiplayer.
I dunno. I'm just venting because I'm looking at around double the price this iteration and it sounds like I'm the bad guy for not liking that. Yes, I know we don't know the price... but come on. Full campaign with full storyline per full game! All signs point to money. I just want BNet, tarn sarnit!
First, BakerIsBored is bummed SC2 won't have LAN. It sucks, but what you going to do?
Secondly, I consider myself a somewhat average gamer and I have never heard of it. Maybe they need better marketing?
The thing is, YOU aren't their sole market, just like you weren't with Brood War. I mean come on, the vast majority of people (at least in the US and UK) are never even going to take their copies online. Everyone seems to be complaining about how unjust it is that they're giving you stuff that you don't want and then making you pay for it. If you feel that strongly about not wanting to buy the SP with the MP, as has been the case with every Blizzard RTS to date, then yes, I suppose it is a ripoff for you since you're paying for something that you didn't want. But that decision was taken long before even the one to release three titles instead of one. There was never going to be JUST a multiplayer expansion pack. I honestly can't remember the last RTS I've seen which got a paid addon pack with no singleplayer.
I don't recall when I, or anyone else made you out to be the bad guy for not wanting it? You're free to turn it down and say all that other content has no value to you, that's your prerogative. The point (well, one of the points) I've been trying to make is that just because you don't want the SP content doesn't mean it's valueless to most of the other people who're buying the product.
Actually just go read the whole thing
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So, I have some original StarCraft (1) action figures still in packaging. Any chance these things might go for some $$ if I sell them on southkoreaebay or something, around release of SC2?
What the hell is wrong with them?
I don't know about Taranis, but I felt that DoW was sorely lacking because of playing only a single race in the SP campaign, yes, and I doubt I'm the only one.
And if this "No Lan Support" is the new way of SC2, I really hope they fix the online. Because right now SC1 won't allow you and friends over LAN to join an online game without lagging the whole game to shit.
For starters, I thought we could assume that I knew that there was an ongoing subscription fee, and thus no content would ever, truly be free. I apologize for making that assumption. It's not a wise thing to do on the internet.
The heart of the matter, as near well as I can tell, is whether or not blizzard is unnecessarily pumping their fans for cash. We all agree that they are a business and, at the end of the day, are out to make money. The question is, again, whether they're being a little 'evil' about it.
And so, certain people here are all 'blizzard's recent moneygrubbing etc' and about a dozen other similar comments. They are implying that blizzard is being a little extreme in trying to separate you from your money. I'm not going to use words like unethical, but they're being painted in a negative, greedy light.
To the best of my knowledge, Blizzard has pretty much all been about WoW these past five years, in terms of stuff they've released. I assume that that is what they are pointing to when they are talking about money grubbing activities; I'm guessing they're not still pissed about The Frozen Throne or Lords of Destruction. But, you know, blizzard fans. I could be wrong.
So, the idea was that WoW was money grubbing. But, compared to other MMOs, WoW provided a lot more content, 'free', and for a longer time before they started releasing expansions, and what's more the expansions have all been, at least according to reviewers(I don't play the game so I can't tell you personally) worthwhile and expansive. They ostensibly could have milked the franchise and released shit, but this apparently hasn't been the case.
It seems to me that Blizzard is onto something with this campaign split, but they're doing it the wrong way. I think at this point it's fairly obvious that the 3 games will be full priced, as they all have the content of a full release and Blizzard have never been ones to undercharge. This disadvantages people who want to play the multiplayer, because they need to buy all the full priced releases to have all the units. I think what needs to happen is a multi/single player split.
Picture this; Starcraft 2 is released in six different forms. The three campaign games should be available in both a full and multiplayer only variant. The multiplayer variants would naturally be much cheaper than the full release. This way you either pay 50 bucks per game if you want multi and single player, or say 20 bucks per game if you want only the multiplayer versions. Have the multiplayer only versions be digitally distributed to avoid confusion on store shelves. Everyone wins.
Also, RE: no lan play, yeah that's just stupid. It's clear from their wording that what they want to do is have all LAN sessions authenticated through bnet, and remove straight UDP networking.
What would be better would just have the new multiplayer stuff available for like $9.99 per expansion, as DLC through Battle.net, so if you really want nothing to do with the singleplayer (which makes up the bulk of the later titles) then you can still get the new content without paying and arm and a leg or shelling out for a box with minimal content.
Terran Multiplayer Basic
Terran Multiplayer Advanced with LAN support
Terran Single Player Campaign
Terran Battle Chest
Protoss Multiplayer Basic
Protoss Multiplayer Advanced with LAN support
Protoss Single Player Campaign
Protoss Battle Chest
Zerg Multiplayer Basic
Zerg Multiplayer Advanced with LAN support
Zerg Single Player Campaign
Zerg Battle Chest
Terran and Protoss Battle Chest
Terran and Zerg Battle Chest
Protoss and Zerg Battle Chest
Ultimate Starcraft II Master Battle Chest
I think everything would be much simpler and easier this way.
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Your hyperbole is retarded even as a joke.