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  • takyristakyris Registered User
    i apologize in advance for my punctuation.

    surgery good. catheter less so. morphine caused nausea, percocet good. am home. still hurts. plates, screws, etc. little bud is okay, though. totally worth it.

    eta: jeffe, i am a better anything than i am a skater

    Dox the PI wrote:
    takyris, Greek God of blowing shit up.
  • Baron DirigibleBaron Dirigible Registered User regular
    nobody tell ori, but I guessed tak's password and plan to use him as another alt

    Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    takyris wrote: »
    i apologize in advance for my punctuation.

    surgery good. catheter less so. morphine caused nausea, percocet good. am home. still hurts. plates, screws, etc. little bud is okay, though. totally worth it.

    eta: jeffe, i am a better anything than i am a skater

    wow. you really hurt it bad. will you be able to recover full range of motion or do they not know at this point?

    I have a character who injured her collarbone that was based off my experiences with that. I bruised mine pretty badly being stupid(er) so I have an inkling of how much that hurts. best wishes man.

    "a good leader can make an okay group great..."
  • ConceptConcept Registered User
    alternatively, become a cyborg

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Baron DirigibleBaron Dirigible Registered User regular
    hello concept

    Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
  • RazielRaziel Registered User
    Ah that's rough, Tak. Take good care of yourself.

    Edit:

    Okay, I am having somewhat of an issue. I'm working on this five-pager for Gred's magazine. I'm two pages into the script and my buddy calls me with all sorts of new ideas. Some good, some merely a lateral move that he's really excited about, all requiring a damn rewrite. So I gently tell him "Give me time to finish this and then we'll talk". But afterward, I was completely derailed. Utterly blocked. I'm all for creative collaboration, but fuck off while I'm trying to work. So help me, H/A, should I break off my transgender relationship to a panda fetishist, or should I just pay the parking ticket?

    Read the mad blog-rantings of a manic hack writer here.

    Thank you, Rubacava!
  • ConceptConcept Registered User
    hello baron

    i am writing about kosmonauts (still)

    how are you?

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    Raziel wrote: »
    Ah that's rough, Tak. Take good care of yourself.

    Edit:

    Okay, I am having somewhat of an issue. I'm working on this five-pager for Gred's magazine. I'm two pages into the script and my buddy calls me with all sorts of new ideas. Some good, some merely a lateral move that he's really excited about, all requiring a damn rewrite. So I gently tell him "Give me time to finish this and then we'll talk". But afterward, I was completely derailed. Utterly blocked. I'm all for creative collaboration, but fuck off while I'm trying to work. So help me, H/A, should I break off my transgender relationship to a panda fetishist, or should I just pay the parking ticket?
    step back and take a break. come back to it later when the waters are calmer?

    "a good leader can make an okay group great..."
  • Baron DirigibleBaron Dirigible Registered User regular
    I am well! I am at work. work is not going great but it is still going which is something.

    have you seen my site yet

    Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
  • RazielRaziel Registered User
    I submitted you a story.

    Read the mad blog-rantings of a manic hack writer here.

    Thank you, Rubacava!
  • ConceptConcept Registered User
    i have seen it, and it looks pretty darn good!

    if by some miracle i write a decent story in the near future i may well send it to you. maybe also jezz.

    then you can fight for my love, just like my real parents might have, had i not been a crushing disappointment to them both.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Baron DirigibleBaron Dirigible Registered User regular
    Raziel wrote: »
    I submitted you a story.
    I received said story! You have the honour of providing my first submission. I did a little dance when I got it. Thanks!

    I'll read the story over the weekend! Or maybe sooner. I don't know.
    Concept wrote:
    if by some miracle i write a decent story in the near future i may well send it to you. maybe also jezz.

    then you can fight for my love, just like my real parents might have, had i not been a crushing disappointment to them both.
    I'll buy you a drink.

    Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    I'll buy you a drink.

    man that is below the belt

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  • IriahIriah Registered User
    nobody tell ori, but I guessed tak's password and plan to use him as another alt

    if ori's is bionicman then tak's must certainly be zeitgheist

    brink is knight_killer, concept is redshoes

  • Baron DirigibleBaron Dirigible Registered User regular
    Iriah wrote: »
    nobody tell ori, but I guessed tak's password and plan to use him as another alt

    if ori's is bionicman then tak's must certainly be zeitgheist

    brink is knight_killer, concept is redshoes
    who were redshoes and zeitgheist?

    Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
  • Eight RooksEight Rooks Registered User
    Raziel wrote: »
    Not really. It just means that you and I don't share a dimly reactionary view on bombastic movies.

    Nothing 'dimly' about it. :P I enjoy Michael Bay's films. Lots of people (many of them pretty vocal over the internet) would like me to feel bad over this for reasons which I feel are frequently expressed extremely poorly and which hinge on what I remain fairly convinced are childish, knee-jerk, pointlessly elitist motivations. I like it when I have the opportunity to rebut them.

    I mean, even I've got my limits, and it's not as if I think the guy's an unappreciated genius. He's a child set loose in a multi-billion-dollar playpen with no-one to tell him what he ought not to be doing. He's self-indulgent, solipsistic, thoughtless and crude. But he's also extremely talented when he wants to be.

    And with that I'll turn down the wattage. Still, I've yet to see anyone offering lengthy, reasoned analysis of why The Rock is one of the greatest big-dumb-fun action movies ever put to film, and when I attempt to defend Revenge of the Fallen in any sense and get a response like
    What utter crap. Go ball up some aluminum foil and microwave it. Be sure to stay very close to the oven. You’ll love it.

    it doesn't exactly get me thinking maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree. ;-)

    Anyway.

    And in other news that actually, y'know, matters a little more, Christ, takyris. I'm torn between wincing in concern and admiration - doubt I'd have had the presence of mind to be a hero. Get well soon, you hear?

    <AtlusParker> Sorry I'm playing Pokemon and vomiting at the same time so I'm not following the conversation in a linear fashion.

    Read my book. (It has a robot in it.)
  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    What do you call a writer who doesn't want to write so much really interesting novellas and anecdotes as write really cool lines for people to say to invoke the fear of God?

    "Advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."
    "Humor can be dissected, as a frog can, but it dies in the process."
    Imagine all of my posts being spoken by Alec Baldwin
    GamerTag: MunkusBeaver ||||| Steam: munkus
  • RazielRaziel Registered User
    Quentin Tarantino.

    So the Molitor/Ruiz fight kind of sucked. Ballroom dancing with a minor head wound.

    Read the mad blog-rantings of a manic hack writer here.

    Thank you, Rubacava!
  • IriahIriah Registered User
    Iriah wrote: »
    nobody tell ori, but I guessed tak's password and plan to use him as another alt

    if ori's is bionicman then tak's must certainly be zeitgheist

    brink is knight_killer, concept is redshoes
    who were redshoes and zeitgheist?

    janice and gunther. you know, because he's... now that I think about it, it doesn't actually make any sense. Maybe he's Reyes?

  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    iriah has anyone ever told you that you're a worrying individual?

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  • EdcrabEdcrab Registered User
    jezz, we tell him that all the damn time.

    Ed, Ed, Ed. So the presence of sexy Decepticons caused your critical faculties no distress, but the balls were too much?

    Nobody was springing to the defence of the "sexy Decepticon"

    If you can appreciate the giant stompy robot fights then that's fine and dandy but for people to repeatedly defend some really quite dubious film-making decisions... well, that's reason enough for me to never go back to that thread

    As I said over there I still feel that it was a good film split into pieces and shuffled amongst excerpts from a terrible film

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  • IriahIriah Registered User
    bsjezz wrote: »
    iriah has anyone ever told you that you're a worrying individual?

    for remembering Deus Ex passwords? No.

  • MuncieMuncie Registered User
    Michael Bay is a hack. The sooner they quit hinging half a studio's resources on these childish summer explosion movies that appeal to 20-somethings that want to get back in touch with their pre-pubescent purer selves (or some shit) the sooner they might actually have resources to produce films with some kind of depth in character, story, and emotion.

    Now the Academy is getting in on it, increasing the number of 'Best Picture' nominees to 10 so they can fit some spandex, leather, and fire flicks into the lineup. They need to attract more of this demographic that yearns for sweet nostalgia yet has not experienced anything worth being nostalgic about: only sweat shop drawn cartoons created to sell plastic dolls to kids raised by the Mrs. Mattel and Herr Hasbro while mom and dad learned to hate each other and snort coke from a mirror they kept in the 3-series BMWs glove compartment. Stop crying sweetie. Here, have this toy robot. Daddy will be home later this week, not to worry.

    So really there's no reason for popcorn movie aficionados to even call people like me 'elitists' because you've won this particular culture war. This movie will make a gazillion dollars. They'll make another, and another, and another. Then they'll do the next cartoon and make a gazillion dollars. You're the majority: congratulations! They'll build as much cheap plastic shit as you can eat.

    Sit back, enjoy your popcorn. Does it taste like victory?

  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    Muncie wrote: »
    Michael Bay is a hack. The sooner they quit hinging half a studio's resources on these childish summer explosion movies that appeal to 20-somethings that want to get back in touch with their pre-pubescent purer selves (or some shit) the sooner they might actually have resources to produce films with some kind of depth in character, story, and emotion.

    Now the Academy is getting in on it, increasing the number of 'Best Picture' nominees to 10 so they can fit some spandex, leather, and fire flicks into the lineup. They need to attract more of this demographic that yearns for sweet nostalgia yet has not experienced anything worth being nostalgic about: only sweat shop drawn cartoons created to sell plastic dolls to kids raised by the Mrs. Mattel and Herr Hasbro while mom and dad learned to hate each other and snort coke from a mirror they kept in the 3-series BMWs glove compartment. Stop crying sweetie. Here, have this toy robot. Daddy will be home later this week, not to worry.

    So really there's no reason for popcorn movie aficionados to even call people like me 'elitists' because you've won this particular culture war. This movie will make a gazillion dollars. They'll make another, and another, and another. Then they'll do the next cartoon and make a gazillion dollars. You're the majority: congratulations! They'll build as much cheap plastic shit as you can eat.

    Sit back, enjoy your popcorn. Does it taste like victory?
    you sound a little angry there.

    I agree with you about the way movies seem to be going, but there's still hope.

    without hope, you have nothing! NOTHING.

    edit: what's a good cure for runner's knee?

    "a good leader can make an okay group great..."
  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    Why do some people end sentences with a random "anymore"?

  • Grid SystemGrid System Registered User
    I didn't know people did that anymore.

  • Chronos21Chronos21 Registered User regular
    Muncie wrote: »
    Michael Bay is a hack. The sooner they quit hinging half a studio's resources on these childish summer explosion movies that appeal to 20-somethings that want to get back in touch with their pre-pubescent purer selves (or some shit) the sooner they might actually have resources to produce films with some kind of depth in character, story, and emotion.

    Now the Academy is getting in on it, increasing the number of 'Best Picture' nominees to 10 so they can fit some spandex, leather, and fire flicks into the lineup. They need to attract more of this demographic that yearns for sweet nostalgia yet has not experienced anything worth being nostalgic about: only sweat shop drawn cartoons created to sell plastic dolls to kids raised by the Mrs. Mattel and Herr Hasbro while mom and dad learned to hate each other and snort coke from a mirror they kept in the 3-series BMWs glove compartment. Stop crying sweetie. Here, have this toy robot. Daddy will be home later this week, not to worry.

    So really there's no reason for popcorn movie aficionados to even call people like me 'elitists' because you've won this particular culture war. This movie will make a gazillion dollars. They'll make another, and another, and another. Then they'll do the next cartoon and make a gazillion dollars. You're the majority: congratulations! They'll build as much cheap plastic shit as you can eat.

    Sit back, enjoy your popcorn. Does it taste like victory?

    No, really you're pretty much being elitist. There is no trend towards more of these types of movies; it's called the summer. If you want your emotionally powerful, character driven movies in mall theatres you need to wait until the fall. That's their time. They still make them, believe me. And hell, there are many many other outlets for the kind of movies you want to see. Attend a film festival sometime.

    Your argument is an argument that keeps coming up generation after generation, about how something 'popular' is destroying art. Did Elvis destroy good music? Did Public Enemy? Did J.K. Rowlings' success devalue literature? Did comic books? All of these 'won' culture wars, and all were considered crass by the old guard.

    Culture is always going to have its vapid entertainment, as it always has. There's nothing new about it. Read old x-men or spiderman comics if you don't believe me. If you want to avoid it, just avoid it. Will transformers make tons of money? Yep. Is there anything wrong with that? No.

    edit: I don't want to make it sound like I love popcorn movies. I don't. I just think they have their place.

  • EdcrabEdcrab Registered User
    Actually, I'd say there is- but only because I think it's a pretty poor popcorn flick. Iron Man, for all its flaws, was a much better executed "mindless action movie".

    Incidentally Rowling can actually write (when she tries), but Paolini and Meyer are hacks. And I reserve the right to be pissed off when substandard examples of the genre are inexplicably successful.

    Fuck this robot shit, someone give me a beret. It's where I've always belonged.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    I didn't know people did that anymore.

    No, this is fine.

    I'm talking about where it just springs out of nowhere.

    Imagine that I tossed "anymore" at the end of that sentence. That's what I mean.

  • EdcrabEdcrab Registered User
    It's where I've always belonged anymore.

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  • Chronos21Chronos21 Registered User regular
    Edcrab wrote: »
    Actually, I'd say there is- but only because I think it's a pretty poor popcorn flick. Iron Man, for all its flaws, was a much better executed "mindless action movie".

    Incidentally Rowling can actually write (when she tries), but Paolini and Meyer are hacks. And I reserve the right to be pissed off when substandard examples of the genre are inexplicably successful.

    Fuck this robot shit, someone give me a beret. It's where I've always belonged.

    I agree that specifically Transformers was sub par. But I was speaking more generally about popcorn flicks as a whole. I think the greatest example of absolutely inane action having its place is Shoot Em Up. And I did like that movie.

  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    MKR wrote: »
    I didn't know people did that anymore.

    No, this is fine.

    I'm talking about where it just springs out of nowhere.

    Imagine that I tossed "anymore" at the end of that sentence. That's what I mean.

    where did you see this?

    "a good leader can make an okay group great..."
  • zenpotatozenpotato Registered User regular
    What's wrong with being elitist again?

    I like the best of things, people, and places.

  • WankWank Registered User regular
    Don't call me baby, anymore.

  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    MKR wrote: »
    I didn't know people did that anymore.

    No, this is fine.

    I'm talking about where it just springs out of nowhere.

    Imagine that I tossed "anymore" at the end of that sentence. That's what I mean.

    where did you see this?

    About 30 times in various PA forums in the last week.

  • ALifeCalledKarmaALifeCalledKarma Registered User regular
    Yes, Michael Bay is a hack, but that has nothing to do with it. This is the same discussion that comes up again and again. The problem is, people rage about these movies solely because of their budgets. Stories with depth rarely (if ever) require a budget that large, since they don't focus on huge explosions and effects. So when one of them comes out, no one talks about them. Whether they're good or bad, you don't see nearly as much complaining about a movie with a moderate budget.

    Could the money be put to better use? In our opinion, probably, but for the studios, probably not, considering how much Transformers has already made. If you don't like big action flicks, go see The Brothers Bloom, or The Hurt Locker once it starts hitting more screens. They're both better films, but instead of focusing on them, people are going to complain about the money already spent on other things.

    There are people who want cheap thrills. Word of mouth is one way to keep people away from the big budget films (look how poorly Wolverine and the newest Terminator did compared to expectations), but paying to see the movies with depth is a better way to get more of them made.

    "I will be like that tree--
    I shall die at the top."
    -Jonathan Swift
  • Chronos21Chronos21 Registered User regular
    zenpotato wrote: »
    What's wrong with being elitist again?

    I like the best of things, people, and places.

    I think being elitist isn't so much liking the best as it is denouncing everything else.

  • ALifeCalledKarmaALifeCalledKarma Registered User regular
    Chronos21 wrote: »
    zenpotato wrote: »
    What's wrong with being elitist again?

    I like the best of things, people, and places.

    I think being elitist isn't so much liking the best as it is denouncing everything else.

    If only you could've said that a few minutes earlier and saved me the effort of typing my post.

    "I will be like that tree--
    I shall die at the top."
    -Jonathan Swift
  • MuncieMuncie Registered User
    The worst parts of Iron Man were when he was in the suit. Iron Man escaped from the awful summer movie dregs because the lead was charming, clever, and convincing. It's hard not to like Robert Downey in that role. They could have left out the whole climactic battle of that movie and it wouldn't have lost a thing, for me.

    Robert Downey was also the only saving grace in the "Oh God I want a Best Picture Award so bad it hurts" snoozefest that was Zodiac.

    Do you know why movies in the summer are vapid, big budget schlock? Thirteen year old kids are out of school and parents want them to get out of their hair for a few hours. Hopped up on sugar and Grand Theft Auto with short attention spans is pretty much that market. Throw in the 20-year old Adult Swim and I-Live-For-The-Pain-From-An-Old-Wound crowd and it's a recipe for hugely successful movies.

    Also why are all the 'Best Picture' nominee films released at the end of the year? Because of the goddamn Academy Awards.

    The idea of movie seasons is a product of marketing. Don't go assuming this is the natural order of things.

    I'm not against popular stuff, and this is an argument I hear over and over and over and over and over. Don't paint me as some kind of hipster shit-heel who 'listened to that band before they were cool.' If someone came and posted a story in this forum which was had a "cool" gimmick but not character or motivation or any of the things that makes a story we would tear them apart.

    I'm not going to embrace the mediocre to avoid being labeled elitist, and I think you comparing Elvis to Transformers 2 is not just a little bit disingenuous. Maybe I'm wrong about this whole thing. Maybe in 40 years we will see the mass cultural impact of Transformers 2 and how it helped bridge the gap between increasingly segregated communities, brought a distinct culture out of the background, and inspired artists across the world.

    So hey, in the meantime celebrate shit; I'll be on my private jet heading to holiday in Cannes.

  • RazielRaziel Registered User
    That's a nice shot of tall poppy syndrome there, Chronos. "Gee, why can't you just sit back and enjoy it like everyone else? Man, just dig the ride. So it was full of vapid characters, no development, and gratuitous explosions - who cares? It. Was. AWESOME."

    When did it become a crime to expect a story in your movies? Or rounded characters? Or consequences to the violence? Or hell, something to keep me engaged between explosions.

    Read the mad blog-rantings of a manic hack writer here.

    Thank you, Rubacava!
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