it's also how hiro describes himself in snowcrash. and nothing he does is wrong
I have this theory that Snow Crash actually takes place somewhere between 1998 and 2005 and follows the mostly mundane exploits of an aging West-cost weeaboo colored by an all-pervasive delusion.
Pip, you do know that the word "mulatto" comes from the word "mule," yes?
It is actually pretty racist.
that's a myth and the etymology is extremely unclear
The etymology of the term is uncertain. It may be derived from the Portuguese and Spanish word mulato (a small mule), which itself is derived from mula, mule; from Old Spanish; from Latin mūlus), by analogy with the mule, which is the hybrid offspring of a horse and a donkey.[3][4][5]
Some dictionaries and scholarly works trace the word's origins to the Arabic term muwallad, which means "a person of mixed ancestry". Muwallad literally means, "born, begotten, produced, generated; brought up, raised; born and raised among Arabs" (but not of pure Arab blood). Muwallad is derived from the root word WaLaD (Arabic: ولد direct Arabic transliteration: waw, lam, dal). Walad means, "descendant, offspring, scion; child; son; boy; young animal, young one." Muwallad referred to the offspring of Arab men and foreign, non-Arab women. The term muwalladin is still used in contemporary Arabic to describe children of Arab fathers and foreign mothers. According to Julio Izquierdo Labrado[6], the nineteenth-century linguist Leopoldo Eguilaz y Yanguas, as well as some Arabian sources[7] muwallad is the etymological origin of mulato. These sources specify that mulato would have been derived directly from muwallad independently of the related word muladÃ, a term that was applied to Iberian Christians who had converted to Islam during the Moorish domination of Iberia in the Middle Ages.
However, the Real Academia Española (Spanish Royal Academy) casts doubt on the muwallad theory. It states, "The term mulata is documented in our diachronic data bank in 1472 and is used in reference to livestock mules in Documentacion medieval de la Corte del Justicia de Ganaderos de Zaragoza, whereas muladà (from mullawadÃ) does not appear until the 18th century, according to [Joan] Corominas".[8]
Pip, read the last paragraph of what you just posted. It says, in no uncertain terms, that the word "mulata" was used to describe mules in 1472. Much closer to use than Muwallad and much closer in english.
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however, the treatment of mulattos was really racist
but, spanish treatment of everybody was pretty damn racist
I've never heard anybody be offended by the term mulatto
In fact, I'm pretty sure a lot of people don't even know what it means. It has a racist origin, but I can't think of any time I've seen some white guy be all "THEM GOT-DAMNED MULATTOS ARE TAKIN' ALL ER JERBS"
Pip, read the last paragraph of what you just posted. It says, in no uncertain terms, that the word "mulata" was used to describe mules in 1472. Much closer to use than Muwallad and much closer in english.
Pip, read the last paragraph of what you just posted. It says, in no uncertain terms, that the word "mulata" was used to describe mules in 1472. Much closer to use than Muwallad and much closer in english.
Do you not see how that works? From Mule to Mulata to Mulatto. It's pretty much one of the more simplistic etymological routes taken.
except there is no exact documentation of where it transferred to people and the mullawad theory is much more logical, considering the muslim spanish were far closer to northern africa and means mixed-race
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It is actually pretty racist.
God I love your delusional douchebagity
I know, your mind is totally blown, right?
God damn that sounds fucking retarded.
that's a myth and the etymology is extremely unclear
shit was up to like six or seven mules last I looked
Well a lot of things do sound retarded in summary but might be pretty good when elaborated upon
but, spanish treatment of everybody was pretty damn racist
....
COME THE FUCK ON!
Yes I know but I guess I'm projecting because there is no way of summarising my projects without them sounding even more terrible
Make the pain go away.
In fact, I'm pretty sure a lot of people don't even know what it means. It has a racist origin, but I can't think of any time I've seen some white guy be all "THEM GOT-DAMNED MULATTOS ARE TAKIN' ALL ER JERBS"
the term is used to talk about mules in 1472
not mixed-race
the term mules, is used to reference mules
gasp
people are all "OH MAH GAH HE PREDICTED SECOND LIFE AND STUFF" but come on this was in 1992 it's not like he wrote brave new world
it's not like it's a serious story
Do you not see how that works? From Mule to Mulata to Mulatto. It's pretty much one of the more simplistic etymological routes taken.
And now we call a certain class of people mules.
It's even more retarded than it sounds.
except there is no exact documentation of where it transferred to people and the mullawad theory is much more logical, considering the muslim spanish were far closer to northern africa and means mixed-race
light em on fire
My latest project is called Callius and it is about a protagonist who is so goddamn terrible that everyone always talks about how terrible they are
He's a pizza-wielding hacker who works for samurais and can deliver the mafia
it's actually amazing
Even though the Islamic influence upon the Spanish had dwindled by the time the term became used, mind you.
Nah, I don't buy that. That's like ascribing the Nordic heritage of English to the Normans instead of the Saxons. Don't make a god damn lick of sense.
there is still an enormously strong muslim influence in southern spain, and it was very strong in the south in the 1700s
and even ignoring the origins
when in your life have you heard mulatto used as a pejorative ever, instead of just a designation of racial heritage
EDIT: and your analogy hardly works because there are strong ties in english to both the normans and the saxons
in fact
i know two separate people who self-identify as mulattos.
both of which are half-black, half-white
callius, sometimes man
sometimes i wonder how you ultra-liberal dudes don't have like high blood pressure problems
cal, you are a busta
but that might have been in a movie