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PS3 and Backwards Compatibility
Cowbomb
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I'm planning on buying a PS3 at some point in the next few days, and have been eyeing up the 60gb model, since backwards compatibility is a pretty important factor for me, especially since my PS2 is starting to show its age a little.
Before I commit though, I was just wondering how good the PS3's backwards compatibility actually was? I know that it's software-based, rather than hardware, like the 360, and in my experience the 360's compatibility with Xbox games is spotty at best.
A sweep of the Internets (sites like this one, for example) make it sound like the vast majority of games play perfectly, which is encouraging, but I'd much rather hear what you guys have to say.
So, PAL 60GB PS3 - how well does it run PS2 games? Awesomely, or horrifically? Does it pretty them up with upscaling?
Cheers guys
Before I commit though, I was just wondering how good the PS3's backwards compatibility actually was? I know that it's software-based, rather than hardware, like the 360, and in my experience the 360's compatibility with Xbox games is spotty at best.
A sweep of the Internets (sites like this one, for example) make it sound like the vast majority of games play perfectly, which is encouraging, but I'd much rather hear what you guys have to say.
So, PAL 60GB PS3 - how well does it run PS2 games? Awesomely, or horrifically? Does it pretty them up with upscaling?
Cheers guys
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There are leaks about a slim model that will be out by christmas this year, so you might want to hold out for that. There is also speculation there will be pure software emulation of PS2 games for all PS3 models (that article is wrong about that the current mixed emulation sucks). The older models might get cheaper once the slim gets out but since they don't make the initial 60 GB anymore you might want to jump in and be guaranteed of pretty good emulation.
You really don't understand business do you?
They're obsolete but still being sold at double the price of the other two last gen consoles. It's like selling a Pentium III system for $500 - it makes no sense on the consumer's end.
So long as the market will support that price, they'll continue charging it. If sales slow down too much at the current price, then they'll cut it.
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Anyway, here in the US, BC is generally gone from all new PS3s right? And the old SKU with BC stopped being manufactured? I hear there's a chance they might bring BC back, but all this riffraff is too confusing.
Would it just be cheaper to buy a PS2 separately and just tape it to the top of a PS3?
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First Sony said it wasn't real. Then they got the factory that leaked it to shut up (they wouldn't do it if it wasn't real, they'd just leave it at saying it wasn't real). Then another Taiwanese factory got a contract to make a slim model PS3. Now there's video footage of it, apparently. Either it's a really, really elaborate ploy at making a knockoff PS3 slim seem real, or it is a slim PS3.
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Something to consider.
I had thought none of the PAL models supported backwards compatibility.
PAL only got software emulation in the 60gb.
Why don't WD/Seagate/Samsung sell 120gb drives for a buck? Those drives are all old technology, they can't possibly be worth more than a dollar! What the fuck is wrong with those idiots trying to sell old shit for more money! EvilBadman was right, you know fuckall about business. If you are holding out on buying a PS2 until it reaches $50 you're an idiot as well. $100 is a small price to pay for what it offers.
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Plus, paying $50 for a PS2 will pretty much guarantee you'll get one that will crap out in a few months. That was the case with the third one I bought, anyway (though I paid $60, technically).
No. Not on the new ones.
The PS3 offered exactly the same thing for a much larger price until they realised that people were still buying PS2 games and cut the BC, then outright said that was the reason they were cutting it.
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I'm not a fan of the PS2 emu on HD.
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Huh, what is it that you don't you like about the HD emu? I'd been assuming that the PS3 upscales PS2 games in a similar way to how the 360 handles Xbox games (which I think look fantastic), is that right or does it handle the upscaling in a different/worse way?
Thanks for the help so far guys
I've been playing PS2 games through 80GB software compatibility for over a year and it looks gorgeous, but I have a small monitor/hdtv combo.
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Mostly just improper syncing with audio (the video slows down a bit). Nothing game-breaking, but a slight annoyance anyway.
North American PS3s had hardware previously, but now only do software or none at all.
NTSC systems with hardware backwards compatability are:
60gb (no longer manufactured)
80gb (the older one, no longer manufactured)
I think possibly the first set of MGS4 bundle PS3s had it but I'm not certain.
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Very few, and I believe it was only with the software emulation model which was fixed at a later patch. One was one of the final fantasies, nd from what I remember it was just the weird video/audio synch. Other than that I believe there were like maybe 2 or 3 other titles with problems? Such as Tekken 5 was also one with video/audio synch crud on the intro movie.
Edit: ChaBam, here you go with any and all of your official compatibility questions. http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/CompatibleStatus
I will not buy a PS3 until it has BC back in. New. I also will not buy a used PlayStation so it'll have to be new and at most $200.
I don't understand why they have such trouble keeping it in the console. They've always been about being able to play the vast entirety of their game library all the way back to the PSX way back 15 years ago. That's bajillions of games. But to cut out a large portion? Why?
The way I hear it, there's two methods. Software and Hardware. I can understand if they want to keep hardware emulation out for cost reasons, but software is nothing. Is it HD space? Because the HD's just get bigger and bigger. I can't see why they'd remove the software emulation at all.
I'm rooting for a slimmer PSThree with hardware emulation at $200 in 2011 at most.
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I dunno to me the image looks very muddy, like there's vaseline on it or something. I tried to play around with it mostly on my 24" 1920x1200 monitor, various combinations of settings, but I just couldn't get it to look as good as on a plain old standard def TV. I was using God of War 1/2 and persona 3(in game) as tests.
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I'd say more like 2012, if you want a slim PS3 for $200. Maybe later.
And I seriously doubt you're going to get hardware BC. Seriously, I'm talking nonexistent.
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MGS bundle has hardware + software BC. Only the US/JP 60GB and 20GB have full hardware BC. Full hardware emulation is never coming back. They did patent a new emulation method for the software part that would be more reliable than the current offering though, so it may improve to the point where they're close to equal. That's pure speculation though.