Pro Wrestling: RIP Captain Lou Albano

Shockwave · July 2009

And does anyone find it crazy that out of everything, the WWE decides to keep the Goldust electrical accident in continuity? Why won't they just erase it like everything else that happens in WWE?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baESy2MAqBs

Shadowen · July 2009

Kyougu wrote: »

Jeremy Piven will be the next host after Shaw.

Kinda dissapointed, since I'm pretty sure he'll be just pimping his movie. I know Seth Green did it with the dvd of RC, but he gave off the vibe that he was actually having fun out there and WANTED to do it. Granted, I don't have a TV that looks into the future, but I can't see myself getting that vibe from Piven.

Also, they had some skits from Robot Chicken that were wrestling-centered.

noir_blood · July 2009

Meh, I'm sure he'll have some bad sushi and have to drop out a day before he's schedule to show up.

Amikron Devalia · July 2009

Really? Jeremy Piven? I mean I know who he is and all, but unlike say, ZZ Top, Shaq, Million Dollar Man, hell even Seth Green, no one is going to tune in specifically because Jeremy Piven is on. I can't really see that as being enjoyable at all. Hopefully they get over this gimmick soon and get a real GM going, its kind of silly to see that out of the 3 "Brands", only one has an actual GM, Smackdown. Britney Spears over on ECW needs to go back to working at the candle store in the mall or wherever the hell they found her ASAP. I think many have said it in these very threads, but Dreamer would be a great choice for a GM as soon as they finally rid him of the belt. He's not very good in the ring anymore, but the crowd still loves him, and he can play the middle of the road kind of guy rather well. Also, putting him in the GM spot on ECW would let him have a King type setup, where he still wrestles once in a great while, but only to "defend the honor of ECW".

As far as RAW finally getting a real GM, we can only hope Seth Green would be considered.

FyreWulff · July 2009

Heh. I was looking at my ISP's page for something, and they still have Edge for the PPV promo image.

Kyougu · July 2009

Read the Smackdown spoilers, sounds like a quality show.

And Punk's Heel turn seems to be in full effect.

Gonmun · July 2009

Kyougu wrote: »

Read the Smackdown spoilers, sounds like a quality show.

And Punk's Heel turn seems to be in full effect.

Would you mind sharing the link Kyougu?

Kyougu · July 2009

Gonmun wrote: »

Kyougu wrote: »

Read the Smackdown spoilers, sounds like a quality show.

And Punk's Heel turn seems to be in full effect.

Would you mind sharing the link Kyougu?

Here you go.

http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2009/07/22/wwe-smackdown-spoilers-23/

Gonmun · July 2009

Frankly I found they dragged Punk's heel turn way too long. With the turn though I wonder if maybe Jericho would consider him his tag partner?

SarcasmoBlaster · July 2009

I expect Punk to finally be full heel by Monday morning. He's going to pin Jeff by some full on heel chicken shit move.

KurnDerak · July 2009

Eh, I don't think I'm going to enjoy WWE heel Punk. His slow move to "Jeff, you're a drug doing failure... I'm better then you and everyone that's not straight edge" was good, but doing cliche "Oh look at me, I run away from fights, and beat people up for no reason and so forth" I imagine is going to annoy me and just completely turn me off of punk.

This is why I liked Orton earlier this year. He was super heel sort of, he was a over confident psycho dick, and he was sure as hell backing it up. It's not something they let heels do all that often. Then they turned him from mind games and head punting to disqualification cowardish person.

As far as Jericho goes, his major heel move on Edge was good, but I'm getting bored with him honestly. Each segment with him starts off with "Sychophants and hypocrits" and I just tune him out.

On the bright side of the WWE Cena and HHH entertained me during the beginning of Raw. The hobbit part was funny, yet dumb.

Santino though, just always good. And... did it seem to anyone else that it just didn't seem akward at all to santino to do the dance along the chair near the end?

I think all I'm interested from the PPV is who Jericho gets as a partner.

LockedOnTarget · July 2009

There are three kinds of heels in the WWE.

Chickenshit cheaters who can't win a match on their own talents.

Monsters who squash more talented wrestlers.

Triple H.

LockedOnTarget · July 2009

Holy crap, a buy 3 dvds, get 2 free sale at rohwrestling.com. I'm totally gonna use this to catch up.

Reznik · July 2009

KurnDerak wrote: »

As far as Jericho goes, his major heel move on Edge was good, but I'm getting bored with him honestly. Each segment with him starts off with "Sychophants and hypocrits" and I just tune him out.

Don't forget gelatinous parasites

Kyougu · July 2009

KurnDerak wrote: »

This is why I liked Orton earlier this year. He was super heel sort of, he was a over confident psycho dick, and he was sure as hell backing it up. It's not something they let heels do all that often. Then they turned him from mind games and head punting to disqualification cowardish person.

Completely agree.

Part of me thinks the only reason they changed up his character was because he was getting cheered during the HHH and McMahon feud.

lonelyahava · July 2009

I dunno.

I really kinda liked the slow heel turn for Punk. It seemed more, realistic in a way? A guy who was doing what he could for the crowd, and to get what he wanted out of it, but because he wasn't as flashy as the other guy, he got all the hate. And continued to get the hate. Psychologically, that would affect a person. And that's what seems to have happened with this heel turn. It was, oddly enough, quite well written. Very well written in comparison, really.

And I am loving Orton. He might not be doing all of the psychological warfare that he was, but I have never yet seen a wrestler (that I can remember anyways) who is so damned good at showing (or letting it show) that he's thinking, considering, contemplating, planning. There is just something about Orton (as an actor) that I absolutely love. He has the ability to make you think that he's thinking even while the commentators are going 'OMG what is going on in his mind?!?!?!"

Is that making any sense?

Kyougu · July 2009

I get what you're saying lonely.

Orton's facial expressions are top notch.

QuickSnap · July 2009

Kyougu wrote: »

KurnDerak wrote: »

This is why I liked Orton earlier this year. He was super heel sort of, he was a over confident psycho dick, and he was sure as hell backing it up. It's not something they let heels do all that often. Then they turned him from mind games and head punting to disqualification cowardish person.

Completely agree.

Part of me thinks the only reason they changed up his character was because he was getting cheered during the HHH and McMahon feud.

That is the only reason. It becomes very obvious when you go back and look at that feud. Which is kind of sad because it would have truly marked a departure from the typical Randy Orton heel that we've seen on and off for a few years and really bring in that main event guy that you turn in to see ala The Rock or Stone Cold.

Gonmun · July 2009

Yeah, Orton's doing the heel role well I think. And as Kyougu was saying I think they changed it when it seemed like he was starting to get the crowd in his favour. Heaven forbid we might have seen something almost akin to stone-cold again.

BTW, it's nice to see you back on the forums lonely. Sorry if I'm late in saying that but I recall you were gone for a while. Sadly things didn't quite work out with the efed while you were gone.

lonelyahava · July 2009

Thanks Gonmun.

I have actually been around, but only just started back up with the wrestling again.

And I love Orton. I would so totally be cheering for him.

And quite possibly throwing myself at him.

But that's neither here nore there.

Alright!

Off to see Harry Potter!

Later!

LockedOnTarget · July 2009

lonelyahava wrote: »

I dunno.

I really kinda liked the slow heel turn for Punk. It seemed more, realistic in a way? A guy who was doing what he could for the crowd, and to get what he wanted out of it, but because he wasn't as flashy as the other guy, he got all the hate. And continued to get the hate. Psychologically, that would affect a person. And that's what seems to have happened with this heel turn. It was, oddly enough, quite well written. Very well written in comparison, really.

And I am loving Orton. He might not be doing all of the psychological warfare that he was, but I have never yet seen a wrestler (that I can remember anyways) who is so damned good at showing (or letting it show) that he's thinking, considering, contemplating, planning. There is just something about Orton (as an actor) that I absolutely love. He has the ability to make you think that he's thinking even while the commentators are going 'OMG what is going on in his mind?!?!?!"

Is that making any sense?

Agreed on both points. These two are the best heels in the company right now, IMO.

precisionk · July 2009

So what are the Roh must have dvd's?

LockedOnTarget · July 2009

precisionk wrote: »

So what are the Roh must have dvd's?

I suppose that depends. Are you familiar at all with the product? If you are, any favorite wrestlers on the roster? What kind of wrestling do you like? And are you looking for more current stuff or anything from any point in the companies history?

precisionk · July 2009

LockedOnTarget wrote: »

precisionk wrote: »

So what are the Roh must have dvd's?

I suppose that depends. Are you familiar at all with the product? If you are, any favorite wrestlers on the roster? What kind of wrestling do you like? And are you looking for more current stuff or anything from any point in the companies history?

I have been watching the roh show last few weeks on hdnet, getting familiarized. Looking for something over the top, high flying, something you wont see in WWE.

LockedOnTarget · July 2009

"Man Up" from mid/late 2007 is main evented by a ridiculous ladder match(the only one in ROH history, in fact) between the Briscoes and Kevin Steen/El Generico. It's wild and the rest of the card is good stuff, too.

How many DVDs are you looking at? Thinking of getting 5 with the buy three get two free deal, or just gonna grab one or two?

Amikron Devalia · July 2009

You know, I've heard people say TNA is like WCW. I've watched TNA for a month now, and caught 1 PPV at a friends house, and no, no my compatriots, it is not like WCW. It wishes greatly that it could be, but the show itself is just, well it would be rude to even write anything here. It is just bad.

WCW, as cheesy as it was, at least had a weird balance, and some great gimmicks. TNA, well, they have good womens wrestling, I guess. I don't want to come off as whiny wrestling supermark, but TNA really needs to pretty much re-work their entire program to even hope to gain ground against the megabeast that is WWE.

LockedOnTarget · July 2009

People make the comparison because TNA does a lot of the same things wrong that WCW did wrong, not really because they're exactly alike.

Kyougu · July 2009

What kills everyone about TNA, is that they have the roster to be something different, if they bothered to cut all the unnecessary fat. And stop picking off every damn WWE castoff.

LockedOnTarget · July 2009

Hjorvarthr · July 2009

Or at least push their own guys and the X-Division

They must think when they bring in former WWE guys and put a belt on them that they're sticking it to the WWE

Amikron Devalia · July 2009

Like Taz at Victory Road and Tonight..

But I do want to say its not unwatchable or anything, its just bad. It's more akin to late 80s early 90s WWF if you ask me. With some extra stuff of course.

Hjorvarthr's comment is on target, if they would clean house a bit, and use the old guys more to put the new guys over and be "managers" and "mentors", it would definitely help the product. Though as many have said, without change it can't ever hope to seriously compete against WWE.

noir_blood · July 2009

Heh, apparently Helms is walking around Comic-Con in full Hurricane costume and just being a fan. Not the first time a celebrity has done that, as (I think) Simon Pegg did something similar last year.

Amikron Devalia · July 2009

Hurricane is the best superhero, so he fits at Comic-Con. Except unlike all those other posers, he's a real hero! He saved that lady from fallin! We know it was him!

Psychotic One · July 2009

So Superstars rises a question to me. They say William Regal has held over 60 world titles in his career. Would that put him as the most decorated wrestler in the professional circuits? The only others, in my admited limited knowledge, that come close would be Team 3D with 22 World Tag Team belts, Edge, HHH, and possibly Jericho.

QuickSnap · July 2009

noir_blood wrote: »

Heh, apparently Helms is walking around Comic-Con in full Hurricane costume and just being a fan. Not the first time a celebrity has done that, as (I think) Simon Pegg did something similar last year.

Kennedy did some pretty cool videos for Comic-Con last year. One of my favorites was when he was going around doing a costume contest and he ran into RVD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSMFnp387rM

logic7 · July 2009

Variable · July 2009

Amikron Devalia wrote: »

Like Taz at Victory Road and Tonight..

But I do want to say its not unwatchable or anything, its just bad. It's more akin to late 80s early 90s WWF if you ask me. With some extra stuff of course.

Hjorvarthr's comment is on target, if they would clean house a bit, and use the old guys more to put the new guys over and be "managers" and "mentors", it would definitely help the product. Though as many have said, without change it can't ever hope to seriously compete against WWE.

are you saying TNA is bad and you like WWE? or just talking about what it would have to do to compete?

I'm going to the RoH show in Toronto tomorrow night. Bret Hart is gonna be there for a meet and greet and to speak. yay.

LockedOnTarget · July 2009

I'm jealous. I've never been able to see ROH live, nor Bret Hart. I live in western Canada, s I'm nowhere close to any of the places ROH runs.

Looks like it's gonna be a pretty damn good show, too.

KurnDerak · July 2009

logic7 wrote: »

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn172/italiciouz/80214.gif

Force push!

Amikron Devalia · July 2009

Variable wrote: »

Amikron Devalia wrote: »

Like Taz at Victory Road and Tonight..

But I do want to say its not unwatchable or anything, its just bad. It's more akin to late 80s early 90s WWF if you ask me. With some extra stuff of course.

Hjorvarthr's comment is on target, if they would clean house a bit, and use the old guys more to put the new guys over and be "managers" and "mentors", it would definitely help the product. Though as many have said, without change it can't ever hope to seriously compete against WWE.

are you saying TNA is bad and you like WWE? or just talking about what it would have to do to compete?

I'm going to the RoH show in Toronto tomorrow night. Bret Hart is gonna be there for a meet and greet and to speak. yay.

I am saying I like both, but for TNA to be competitive it needs work. I accept that TNA is currently bad, but its that cheesy b-movie kind of bad.

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