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Pre-Fight Debate: Bracket 14
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You mean he has Daredevil and probably Iron Fist too? Wow is he under utilized.
It means that Bullseye can hit whatever he wants, wherever he wants, whenever he wants with whatever he wants.
He is not going to miss. Not with a fucking harpoon gun. He is going to shoot Grodd in the brain.
He's being used in both Moon Knight and Civil War right now.
It's not an unstoppable ability, Daredevil has caught shit that Bullseye has thrown at him before. Grodd could use his mind control to send Atlanteans/sharks at him thereby depleting his weapon supply before moving in for the kill.
Also lets not forget Grodd is used to fighting the fucking Flash so its not like Bullseye is gonna be too quick for him. I'm not saying Bullseye won't hurt him, but Grodd can take alot of punishment, while Bullseye would be doomed the second Grodd got his hands on him.
I have to think the water will probably slow him down some, since he can't swim.
Shiva, Batman, Spider-man, Captain America, Wolverine, Iron Fist, Deathstroke, or any other fighter ever.
I reall don't think ya'll understand just how badass he is.
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Ok that was pretty badass
He fights Wally fucking West on a regular basis. A harpoon gun isn't going to be too fast for him.
And then come the sharks.
Taskmaster isn't in any real danger in his fight vs grundy. As long as he doesn't try and box the big dead guy he has the match in the bag.
gotta give it to bullseye in that round though
what's grodd gonna do? gorilla him to death?
at least he'll have a nice new coat next time daredevil kicks his ass
grodd doesn't beat wally because he's fast
he beats wally because wally's too nice a guy to fucking kill him
Neither is Bullseye, but Bullseye has a weapon made for moving extremely fast through water and has the accuracy to make it hit the mark.
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Uh, anyway. I don't think Bullseye's perfect with a harpoon gun. He throws shit. He doesn't have a power he's just good a tossin' stuff. He's not Hawkeye, killin' dudes with fingernails. He'd still be a pretty good shot, but a Gorilla is around 500 pounds of pure muscle, and Grodd being a DC supervillain, probably weighs a ton and benches buildings. Bullseye has one chance for a lethal shot, because harpoons are a bitch to reload. If he misses he'll go all emo then get eaten.
Taskmaster's such a lame character. He carries around a replica of Cap's shield, Daredevil's batons, and watched them, Wolverine and Deadpool fight. He might get beat in a slugfest, but all of the character's he can emulate have taken on bigger, badder, dudes and either held their own or won.
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I'm pretty sure Ultimate Hawkeye, who did the fingernail thing, is probably based on 616 Bullseye as much as 616 Hawkeye. That was definitely a Bullseye kind of move.
You'd think so, but you'd be wrong. Actually, not just wrong, but categorically incorrect.
Bullseye has one shot to do this, and it's too easy for Grodd to keep him from taking it. Grodd wins.
I have yet to be sold on the Grundy/Taskmaster fight. Can't say with any level of reasonability how it's going to go.
Bullseye can exploit the tiniest, most insignificant opening you can imagine. Grodd is totally dead.
Bullseye needs one shot at the most. Just one. And then Grodd is dead.
Because Grodd's mobility underwater is severely limited, and because he really doesn't have the time to prepare for Bullseye.
Grodd doesn't know anything about Bullseye, remember? He doesn't know that Bullseye is pretty much incapable of missing.
And I would have you know that Daredevil and Spider-Man only manage to not get killed by Bullseye because of their superhuman senses.
K. I've just never read anything with him shooting anyone. Its always with the throwing. Throwing cards, apples, knives, and teeth. I figure he's still an excellent marksman when it comes to projectiles, but can't pull the insane stuff he does with anything he can throw.
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If it involves throwing or shooting in any way Bullseye does not miss. Unless he is fighting someone with super senses like Dare Devil or Spider-Man.
Wikipedia:
Bullseye has no superhuman powers, however, his uncanny abilities to use virtually any object as a lethal projectile makes him more dangerous than many characters who do have superhuman powers. While not superhuman, Bullseye can accomplish many feats with thrown projectiles that are impossible outside of fiction. Some of his accomplishments include: lacerate a person's throat with a thrown playing card, spit his own tooth through a human skull, toss a paper airplane to a distant rooftop, and kill a person with a toothpick thrown through a window from a hundred yards away.
Now, I'd think that, compared to lacerating someone's throat with a playing card, shooting someone with a harpoon would be kinda easy.
You know, there's a warm, fuzzy feeling associated with being at the recieving end of one of your arguments. I don't know why people complain about it.
Seriously, I appreciate your passion. The only thing I really feel confident in refuting there is mobility, on the grounds neither of them have a strong advantage (adamantium would slow Bullseye down and what-not). You do make a compelling argument for why Bullseye gets his shot, though.
I guess the one last question is "how fast do harpoons move underwater?". If it's something Grodd can react to (even to turn a killing blow into a terrible wound), then he still wins. Sharks get Bullseye before he reloads.
Especially since adamantium isn't a very heavy material at all. It is not super-dense, its molecules are merely lined up in an improbably regular and durable structure.
And Grodd is a gorilla. Gorillas do not swim. They are incapable of it. No locomotion for Grodd in this fight.
And harpoons are specifically designed to move really quickly underwater. They are weapons designed for underwater shooting. It moves hella fast. Faster than Bullseye can most things on land. If it takes special powers or extreme, mind-bendingly improbable amounts of skill to avoid a playing card from cutting your jugular vein, you are pretty much dead when confronted with a harpoon.
Also, I'm pleased to see that you like argueing with me. I really appreciate that. Thank you. You're welcome, by the way.
Warm and fuzzy. Perhaps I should go pick on some homeless people during the holidays, to help them get through the nights.
It only works if you argue with them the whole time. Just pull up all the old tournament matches and ask them how they think it would go.
I take great pleasure from that mental image.
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See? It's already working!
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The coating of adamantium around Wolverine's bones adds over 100 lbs to his weight. It's a bit heavier than you are giving it credit for.
Yeah, but its not like it's a really think coating of it. It's one layer of it laid over his bones. Bullseye does not have nearly as much of it on his bones but there would still be some added weight from the strips he has.
Checking the Marvel database says he has 25 lbs of the stuff over his bones.
But it's not like he has to flip around or anything - he only has to raise the harpoon gun and fire.
If we are going to worry about him sinking, why not wonder if its too dark to see as well. I assumed this was a standard comic book underwater fight, which means that they are basically weightless.
Oh I agree with you. I think Bullseye would win too. I was just pointing out to Spex that he was wrong about adamantium being light weight and not adding a significant ammount of weight to Bullseye As it stands the strips he has on him account for 13% of his body weight.