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Amazon 451: Burning Books Remotely

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  • YarYar Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You can be sure that if Amazon, or any other evil greedy corporation that hates our freedoms, tries to start controlling our access to books in a manner we don't appreciate, we will respond with technology that removes those corporations from the picture. Who says you can't get a book from a torrent?

  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Thought I'd bump this, as there is now a potential class action suit in the pipeline on this:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090731/ap_on_en_ot/us_tec_amazon_kindle_lawsuit
    Spoiler:

    Bizzare tangental anecdote, the high school the kid goes to struck me. I actually know of that school, back in 2000 my high school's Scholar Bowl (i.e. team base Jeopardy-style competition for teenage dorks) went to Nationals and the team that won was from Eisenhower High.

    Saddest part was, they were a 1-guy team, their team captain answered nearly 90% of their questions, guy was probably the biggest nerd arche/stereotype I've ever seen. I'm talking coke-bottle glasses, rainbow Mork and Mindy suspenders, high-waisted dress pants and always wore a tie. The only thing missing was a pocket-protector and he would have looked like Gilbert from Revenge of the Nerds.

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  • agoajagoaj Pik-at-this MeleeRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    So if Amazon wins, EULAs would be shown in court to be toothless. While if they lose because their EULA states they won't delete content or whatever then this would be the first case where a EULA was seen as a valid contract?

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I wonder if the kid's lawyer knows he is spewing bullshit?

    It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it
  • moocowmoocow Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Saddest part was, they were a 1-guy team, their team captain answered nearly 90% of their questions, guy was probably the biggest nerd arche/stereotype I've ever seen. I'm talking coke-bottle glasses, rainbow Mork and Mindy suspenders, high-waisted dress pants and always wore a tie. The only thing missing was a pocket-protector and he would have looked like Gilbert from Revenge of the Nerds.

    Maybe it was intentional?

    My high school chess club all dressed like a bunch of thugs and wore hats when we went to regionals or whatever tournament it was. We placed first overall or some such and got some trophy for it, all standing on stage wearing hats and leather jackets or hoodies with the hoods up instead of dress shirts and slacks. Our coach was not happy. :D

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I see he is going for the Amazon is t3h haz0rz defense.

    Voice actor for hire. My time is free if your project is!
  • EvanderEvander Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Khavall wrote: »
    Recalls have happened a billion times with physical goods.

    When a recall is done consumers have a choice whether or not to return the recalled item.

    Amazon is removing choice.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA
    edited August 2009
    Two parts stand out to me:
    Bruguier complained to Amazon repeatedly after losing his copy of "1984," appealing in vain for that or an authorized edition to be restored to his Kindle, according to the lawsuit. "I thought that once purchased, the books were mine," he wrote.

    He was given a refund for the deleted book. If he would have been happy with an authorized replacement, what, exactly, was stopping him from just buying the fucking thing?
    His notes on the book were "rendered useless because they no longer referenced the relevant parts of the book," according to the lawsuit.

    So his notes were still there, he just had to take five minutes to match them up to a different edition? Oh noes!

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    EDIT: ^ Yeah what a fucking baby. "Boohoo I thought when I bought something I owned it!" He should've read the fine print on his Kindle that said "Amazon.com withholds the right to delete anything you've purchased at any time for any reason".
    Evander wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    Recalls have happened a billion times with physical goods.

    When a recall is done consumers have a choice whether or not to return the recalled item.

    Amazon is removing choice.
    Plus recalls happen because the product is unsafe.

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  • Marty81Marty81 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    EDIT: ^ Yeah what a fucking baby. "Boohoo I thought when I bought something I owned it!"

    I know, right? What ever made him think something silly like that?
    He should've read the fine print on his Kindle that said "Amazon.com withholds the right to delete anything you've purchased at any time for any reason".

    Srsly. I mean, the fine print says "Use of Digital Content. Upon your payment of the applicable fees set by Amazon, Amazon grants you the non-exclusive right to keep a permanent copy of the applicable Digital Content and to view, use, and display such Digital Content an unlimited number of times, solely on the Device or as authorized by Amazon as part of the Service and solely for your personal, non-commercial use. Digital Content will be deemed licensed to you by Amazon under this Agreement unless otherwise expressly provided by Amazon."

  • Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    EDIT: ^ Yeah what a fucking baby. "Boohoo I thought when I bought something I owned it!" He should've read the fine print on his Kindle that said "Amazon.com withholds the right to delete anything you've purchased at any time for any reason".

    Ah, the ol' put something in quotes to make it look like it's official trick. Interestingly enough, Muffin, the Kindle terms of use don't say those words in any form whatsoever. Congratulations on making something up completely and then trying to pass it off as being true. In fact, the real terms of use say pretty much the exact opposite of your "quote".

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Marty81 wrote: »
    EDIT: ^ Yeah what a fucking baby. "Boohoo I thought when I bought something I owned it!"

    I know, right? What ever made him think something silly like that?
    He should've read the fine print on his Kindle that said "Amazon.com withholds the right to delete anything you've purchased at any time for any reason".
    Srsly. I mean, the fine print says "Use of Digital Content. Upon your payment of the applicable fees set by Amazon, Amazon grants you the non-exclusive right to keep a permanent copy of the applicable Digital Content and to view, use, and display such Digital Content an unlimited number of times, solely on the Device or as authorized by Amazon as part of the Service and solely for your personal, non-commercial use. Digital Content will be deemed licensed to you by Amazon under this Agreement unless otherwise expressly provided by Amazon."
    Amazon can't grant rights of viewing if the vendor doesn't have them.

    Also, Kakos, Muffin was using hyperbole.

    It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it
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