Yes yes yes yes. Those books. You know the ones, the ones that you buy and hide under a copy of The Da Vinci Code so you won't get beaten up on the bus home.
I stumbled across (in a dusty box in my parent's attic) a bunch of old fantasy books I read when I was a kid. Alas, Dragonlance was not among them, but there were some smattering of Star Wars (Shudder), Feist, David Eddings and some bits and pieces like that Stephen King fantasy novel which I quite enjoyed, Eyes Of The Dragon. So I got thinking: Surely not all fantasy novels were as bad as I remember them?
Surely the writing wasn't so overwritten? There has to be
some good books out there!
But first what is fantasy novel
So why does this warrant its own thread?
They come in many forms, from the classic awe inspiring:
To the more modern, but almost as good:
To the "Oh god I have no idea what this word means":
To the "God this is long, I've read a thousand pages and i'm still only one third of the way through the book":
To the "Hey, the hero is totally gay for the other lead character" aka "I was too young to understand the exploration of the themes present in this novel":
By shadows, she means... well... you know what I mean.
To the infantile, but still highly enjoyable:
To the, who the fuck are we kidding, this is absolute shit:
(We still love Feist for the Riftwar and Serpentwar Sagas, we just don't like Talon. He gives us the shits.)
Well because these aren't normal books, and require a special thread. We're special people.
They illicit a certain special joy, in which we can overlook certain deficiencies if the plot is epic enough, or you have a bad ass mother fucking black wizard like Rastilin. Or a Wizzard.
What do we want to discuss?
Inherently, we wish to work out what is good
and what is bad
. So people may read them.
Note: What makes a bad novel is not that it is "Really slow for the first half" like Dune, or that the "Hero is gay." But more serious things like: "The character is the best at everything he does and is totally one dimensional." (Like Talon) or that he is "So testosterone filled, he's nearly a walking Dark Elf Hardon." (Drizzt, apparently.)
Straight away we have some topics to work for our initial discussion:
- Are the new Feist books any good? I hear there are Elfs that fly spaceships is this true?
- Is Drizzt a walking hardon? Should I read the Icewind Dale books?
- I didn't like the Eddings book with the Cat that was a god - Should I explore him further?
- Anything the hell you want that is about or tangentially related to a book that involves, dungeons, dragons, magic, sandworms, the force, wizards or wizzards.
Go forth, discuss! And please spoiler everything that needs spoilering. Like that Rastlin turns evil. Oops. Sorry. But I mentioned that already, didn't I?
Also: Last few threads seemed to A) Die, and B) Answer the questions already posed. But what ever, live fast die young eh?