Confidence vs The Seduction Community

JoeUser

Druhim wrote: »

you just fear the alpha male

Kuribo's Shoe

drunkards prowling every dark corner, closet, and bathroom

tongues lashing about

seeking a victim

any victim

World as Myth

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

drunkards prowling every dark corner, closet, and bathroom

tongues lashing about

seeking a victim

any victim

now that's a party!

Kuribo's Shoe

menagerie of horrors

Abracadaniel

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

drunkards prowling every dark corner, closet, and bathroom

tongues lashing about

seeking a victim

any victim

Spoiler:

the wook

I have the best method. If I'm attracted to a girl, I get to know her better. If I don't like her at that point, I sleep with her. If I do like her, I become paralyzed with fear, refusing to talk or interact with her until such time that I get drunk at a party and confess the whole thing in one of those incredibly awkward moments that always ends with a slow clap.

ladies

Tasteticle

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Somebody should start up "Approaching Women" classes that make sure you are not a creepy fuck.

Just teach you things about cleaning yourself up, conversation starters, etiqette, confidence boosting, etc.

Not predatory, but a "hey it's nice to meet you" kind of way.

A lot of people need to learn that "nice guys finish last" is the furthest from the truth.

People without backbones finish last, and usually those people are pretty nice guys.

I have a lot of friends that are great people but have ZERO clues when it comes to just talking to women.

Kuribo's Shoe

I got married to a nice lady. We have four cats.

Druhim

the wook wrote: »

I have the best method. If I'm attracted to a girl, I get to know her better. If I don't like her at that point, I sleep with her. If I do like her, I become paralyzed with fear, refusing to talk or interact with her until such time that I get drunk at a party and confess the whole thing in one of those incredibly awkward moments that always ends with a slow clap.

ladies

so you're saying you don't like me?

Fandyien

I've never actually hit on a girl

now that I'm single I don't know how to do it

Goatmon

Gabe wrote:

What I didn't really understand until I started taking medicine was that the constant worrying and anxiety had also lead to depression. Once I was on Lexapro I started to feel...well good and I finally had a frame of reference. When you're always depressed and worried you don't understand that there is any other way to feel. It probably sounds crazy to people who've never had to deal with it but it's true.

I had this same dilemma for a long time, for totally different reasons. I was more or less in an ongoing depression for most of my life.

I don't know if it was to do with a particular form of anxiety, or just a number of perceived deficiencies that I saw in myself, but things really turned around once I got put on Aderall XR. This last year (and a couple months) has been the most amazing and fulfilling time of my life. It's mindblowing to look back at how I used to be, and realize how very easily I could have turned things around so much sooner if I'd only been able to believe in myself. That probably sounds really cheesy, but it's absolutely true.

The most amazing step I think I made was having enough confidence to, in so many words, give my dad the finger and tell him I never want to talk to him again. But that's another story.

unintentional

well you just take a big baseball bat and smack them with it

edit: oh, hit on a girl. can't help you

Ruckus

the wook wrote: »

I have the best method. If I'm attracted to a girl, I get to know her better. If I don't like her at that point, I sleep with her. If I do like her, I become paralyzed with fear, refusing to talk or interact with her until such time that I get drunk at a party and confess the whole thing in one of those incredibly awkward moments that always ends with a slow clap.

ladies

I always just imagined *WHUMP* and then you dragged her back to your place.

the wook

Druhim wrote: »

the wook wrote: »

I have the best method. If I'm attracted to a girl, I get to know her better. If I don't like her at that point, I sleep with her. If I do like her, I become paralyzed with fear, refusing to talk or interact with her until such time that I get drunk at a party and confess the whole thing in one of those incredibly awkward moments that always ends with a slow clap.

ladies

so you're saying you don't like me?

not since the herpes

Druhim

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

I got married to four cats. We have a nice lady also.

Abracadaniel

I am celebrating my year anniversary with my girlfriend this weekend with a hike and a picnic lunch and then a fancy dinner that night and I will wear a suit maybe.

Edcrab

Nice guys finish last is such a painful axiom

It is something said by assholes to justify their life decision to be assholes and something said by losers trying to justify being losers

The nice guys I know are all coming along fine, in fact... some of them are even married

Kuribo's Shoe

Druhim wrote: »

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

I got married to four cats. We have a nice lady also.

this is inaccurate, your sources have failed you

Quoth

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

I got married to a nice lady. We have four cats.

are... are you my husband

oh wait i'm not a nice lady, phew, dodged that bullet

the wook

nice guys finish last

and they warn you right before they do

GameGrrl

Druhim wrote: »

GameGrrl wrote: »

World as Myth wrote: »

how could you tell he was using the method

I have no idea what these things are

Well, I've had a guy try to 'seduce' me... he's actually an acquaintance from highschool. Before when we were in highschool he was really awkward. Outside of his small circle of friends (some pretty nerdy guys who played Magic daily during school), he didn't talk at all. At prom he had one of his friends ask me to dance with him, I'm not sure but people have told me he had crush on me, but we barely talked in highschool at all.

Now we're going to different schools, but we still end up seeing each other at times, and he's completely different from the way he was before... but not in a good way. Now he's not afraid to talk or to approach women (including me), but he's so arrogant and in your face about it... it makes me really uncomfortable to be around him. When we were out once with some friends he pretty much made a point of walking straight up to me and asking me for my number. I didn't really think about it and just gave it to him. Then he left really abruptly and pretended like I wasn't there for the rest of the night.

He called me up two days after and told me he wanted to take me out on a date. I was still pretty puzzled over what was going on, but it was legitimately not a good time for me because of some family problems. He asked for another date the next day, and when I said that I still couldn't he told me to stop wasting his time and that he could do better.

Two weeks pass, and he does the exact same thing, but to my best friend. She has no interest in him at all, and after that he goes back into "stay really quiet" mode... doesn't make eye contact with me anymore, doesn't make eye contact with her...

About a month or so ago I talked to one of his friends about it, and apparently he thinks of himself as a player, and has been talking about ways to pick up women... pretty typical pick-up artist stuff, but I guess you already have to know how to talk to women to make it work. He apprantely has had some success though with some other girls so far.

you just fear the alpha male

I guess? I'm deathly shy in front of most guys, particular strangers and especially when I'm attracted to them or I know they're attracted to me. The last time a guy tried to ask me out I couldn't even look directly at him or speak, I just stood there looking at my drink as things got increasingly awkward and he left.

Kuribo's Shoe

Quoth wrote: »

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

I got married to a nice lady. We have four cats.

are... are you my husband

oh wait i'm not a nice lady, phew, dodged that bullet

"Winston, if you were my husband, I'd put poison in your coffee."

"Nancy, if you were my wife, I'd drink it."

Reginald

I'll tell you guys one thing girls really like: a spectacle.

If you are in a room with a girl you like, do something to get her attention and make her mystified. One trick is to pull down your pants and poop, while a friend yells "He poopin! He poopin!".

This tends to work best in stores such as Target, in the electronics dept.

Druhim

wook I think you and gamegrrl are perfect for each other

Weaver

On the subject of medicine, for the last year and a half I was on cymbalta and only recently discovered (and this is why I switched off it) that it made me pretty much incapable to feeling guilt at all. Which doesn't sound that bad at first but trust me, it's a slope that gets slippery really damn fast.

Usagi

the wook wrote: »

nice guys finish last

and they warn you right before they do

making sure to should loud enough that the whole apartment building knows

Liiya

GameGrrl wrote: »

Druhim wrote: »

GameGrrl wrote: »

World as Myth wrote: »

how could you tell he was using the method

I have no idea what these things are

Well, I've had a guy try to 'seduce' me... he's actually an acquaintance from highschool. Before when we were in highschool he was really awkward. Outside of his small circle of friends (some pretty nerdy guys who played Magic daily during school), he didn't talk at all. At prom he had one of his friends ask me to dance with him, I'm not sure but people have told me he had crush on me, but we barely talked in highschool at all.

Now we're going to different schools, but we still end up seeing each other at times, and he's completely different from the way he was before... but not in a good way. Now he's not afraid to talk or to approach women (including me), but he's so arrogant and in your face about it... it makes me really uncomfortable to be around him. When we were out once with some friends he pretty much made a point of walking straight up to me and asking me for my number. I didn't really think about it and just gave it to him. Then he left really abruptly and pretended like I wasn't there for the rest of the night.

He called me up two days after and told me he wanted to take me out on a date. I was still pretty puzzled over what was going on, but it was legitimately not a good time for me because of some family problems. He asked for another date the next day, and when I said that I still couldn't he told me to stop wasting his time and that he could do better.

Two weeks pass, and he does the exact same thing, but to my best friend. She has no interest in him at all, and after that he goes back into "stay really quiet" mode... doesn't make eye contact with me anymore, doesn't make eye contact with her...

About a month or so ago I talked to one of his friends about it, and apparently he thinks of himself as a player, and has been talking about ways to pick up women... pretty typical pick-up artist stuff, but I guess you already have to know how to talk to women to make it work. He apprantely has had some success though with some other girls so far.

you just fear the alpha male

I guess? I'm deathly shy in front of most guys, particular strangers and especially when I'm attracted to them or I know they're attracted to me. The last time a guy tried to ask me out I couldn't even look directly at him or speak, I just stood there looking at my drink as things got increasingly awkward and he left.

Aww but he plucked up his courage to talk to you, he must have been just as nervous.

Quoth

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

Quoth wrote: »

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

I got married to a nice lady. We have four cats.

are... are you my husband

oh wait i'm not a nice lady, phew, dodged that bullet

"Winston, if you were my husband, I'd put poison in your coffee."

"Nancy, if you were my wife, I'd drink it."

ahaha yes

Straightzi

We're not allowed to have more than one person in a bathroom anymore at most of the places I party at

Not for fun reasons either

Because people were sitting in the bathroom talking about their feelings

Also one time a super drunk chick tried to rip out my throat with her teeth in the bathroom

But nobody really cares about that except me, mostly it was the first reason

Druhim

Usagi wrote: »

the wook wrote: »

nice guys finish last

and they warn you right before they do

making sure to should loud enough that the whole apartment building knows

COME NOW! COME NOW!

the wook

Reginald wrote: »

I'll tell you guys one thing girls really like: a spectacle.

If you are in a room with a girl you like, do something to get her attention and make her mystified. One trick is to pull down your pants and poop, while a friend yells "He poopin! He poopin!".

This tends to work best in stores such as Target, in the electronics dept.

see, all this time I've been vomiting at CostCo

thanks Reginald for your flawless relationship advice

Canada_jezus

Weaver wrote: »

On the subject of medicine, for the last year and a half I was on cymbalta and only recently discovered (and this is why I switched off it) that it made me pretty much incapable to feeling guilt at all. Which doesn't sound that bad at first but trust me, it's a slope that gets slippery really damn fast.

I'm sorry but this sounds like there are some great stories just waiting to burst forth. That or something terribly depressing.

World as Myth

wook is it still friendship if you openly comment on someone's boobs?

(man we've been riding this joke for two full years now)

GRMike

I always ask myself WWKD?

What would Kobe Do.

the wook

Druhim wrote: »

wook I think you and gamegrrl are perfect for each other

look

i am perfect for all women

Straightzi

Dang this thread moves really fast

JoeUser

Weaver wrote: »

On the subject of medicine, for the last year and a half I was on cymbalta and only recently discovered (and this is why I switched off it) that it made me pretty much incapable to feeling guilt at all. Which doesn't sound that bad at first but trust me, it's a slope that gets slippery really damn fast.

Well now you know your superpower!

Goatmon

Edcrab wrote: »

Nice guys finish last is such a painful axiom

It is something said by assholes to justify their life decision to be assholes and something said by losers trying to justify being losers

The nice guys I know are all coming along fine, in fact... some of them are even married

It makes sense, but only situationally. And only when applied intelligently.

There's no good reason to be a complete asshole in all walks of life, but doing the nice and polite thing all the time doesn't work either.

Canada_jezus

Do women not like that, because i seriously comment on someone's tits like ten minutes after i meet someone.

the wook

World as Myth wrote: »

wook is it still friendship if you openly comment on someone's boobs?

(man we've been riding this joke for two full years now)

i think it's only not friendship if you surreptitiously comment on someone's boobs