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[Politics] Julia Hall: Obama's Possibly Planted Question and Reactions
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Don't forget the Free Speech Zones! Found on the corner of Hypocrisy Lane and Oxymoron Avenue.
I'm pretty sure it was some really old female reporter complaining about it at a press conference.
I do agree that planting questions at press conferences is bullshit, though, but I would also draw a distinction between calling on someone when you know what they're going to ask and putting your own journalist in the pool to ask a question with no substance. If the president is at a press conference and feels there's a question that especially merits answering, there's no reason he should have to cross his fingers and hope someone asks it, simply because that preserves the image of spontaneity.
Still, it's a slippery slope, and one hopes Obama doesn't eventually take on Bush's own policy of controlling his environment to the point of stifling dissent and inquisition rather than simply addressing it.
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Google, motherfucker
What year are you from? It's all right there.
That lead me to this thread which lead me to this post which led me to google again which led me oh god
Steam
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cause I've found that when they don't see you frown, they never know that you're a threat
and they don't sweat you when you came around
The old media was just pissed off that the new media asked a real question, while the best they could come up with was "So....uh....how 'bout that weather?"
You popped my sig cherry. I am so happy
Steam
So it's not just politico whining about it.
And that old female reporter I mentioned was Helen Thomas, apparently, who said that even Nixon didn't do that, or something *shrug*.
I can't believe anyone would fault Obama for coordinating on answering a question from Iranians via Nico Pitney in the middle of an Iranian Revolution. It wasn't a planted question, he just arranged to have the guy doing the best reporting on the Iran crisis to ask A question, is my understanding. Dana Milbank can choke on a cock, that self-entitled little shit.
That's not just Dana Milbank, although he is one of the worst, it's the entire old media. They just can't wrap their entitled little heads around the fact that while they're too busy trying to find out why Obama is a socialist and what Britney Spears is fucking now, the internet media is doing their actual jobs
Testify.
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Fox will go in total attack mode when Democrats are in a position of power. The remarkable thing about Fox is that they have a clear message from their morning segment on that is pushed all day. The other news networks really don't have clear talking points that are pushed in this way. Thier problem seems to be that if Fox (or any outlet really) pushes a story hard enough they think they have to cover it. This was seen with the birther nonsense. Fox and right wing radio/blogs mentioned it loudly enough that the other networks felt they had to give the story air time. It was presented as the "Birther Controversy". Even though the non FOX MSM denounced it they still gave birthers air time to spout their nonsense. The biggest problem I have with the MSM is that they will take an issue like the birther bullshit and bring two opposing viewpoints on to a program as if the debate had equal sides. CNN is most guilty of this. They try to be so centrist at times that it carries over into things where they are neglecting their journalistic duty by not slapping it down.
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Realistically, the false equivalency approach to coverage is the lesser of all evils, in my opinion. Like you say CNN etc. were running those kind of stories because they were big, but also pointing out the lack of evidence. I only know FOX's "hard" coverage (i.e. not glenn beck etc.) from breezing past their website (I need to get the the video player to watch Redeye) which seemed to be "we're totally not pushing this or anything and the actual article will criticize it but we're going to run it front-page with a vague title anyway". MSNBC I only know from their opinion shows, which with the exception of Scarborough were covering the story even more than FOX, probably - from what I saw at the time - because they don't seem very friendly to republicans and like running anything that makes them look bad.
The first is the HuffPost/Politico pissing match from a month ago.
MEDIA FIRESTORM
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So does that make the Penny Arcade forums...part of the american media? :winky:
cat you can be dana milbank.
I shall be Helen Thomas.
Speaking of which, I was going to browse the WaPo site to see if they had any stories related to this other than the one I posted.
But it keeps asking me to register
This is why I never read NYT online either.
So . . .
What?
I mean, the daughter of someone who donated to the Obama campaign and did work for them being at an Obama event . . . it's not exactly a meteor striking earth on the probability scale. It would be like if Thanatos went to an event with his niece and she was called on.
This whole thread seems like a mistake?
You pretty much nailed it there. The same criticism you used against Bush for the past eight years is coming back to bite you in the ass. The fact that you use double standards shows how hypocritical and weak you truly are.
Except that there's no proof that Obama is doing this, so lay off.
ORLY? (see what I did there?)
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Loyalty oaths and free speech zones aren't the same thing as letting a cute little girl ask a question, except to people who are insane. Are you insane?
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After that post do you really need to ask?
Wow one guy in an opinion segment. (?)
Because I'm seeing a lot of the same curvy logic we get with the birth certificate/death panel stuff.
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You're a mistake.
Should he have used a plant? No. Is it as bad as Bush's plants of "Mister President, how come so many people hate America and don't want us to win in Iraq and stop terror forever?" Not at all.
And I don't think this is a "plant" in the same sense of the word as that either. It sounds more like they asked this kid to ask a question and SHE chose "What the fuck is wrong with those psychos screaming at everyone?"
I feel dumb now.
This is not a zero-sum game though. If I do a rolling stop through a 4-way intersection, that does not make me exactly the same as somebody that blows past every single stop sign he comes across without so much as tapping the breaks.
Edit: Plus the, you know, complete and total lack of evidence that this was even a plant in the first place.
If it makes you feel better that's not the joke.
But I'm not sure why that would make you feel better.
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By the way this entire thread is a decent example of the correct way to use the phrase "Begging the Question". "Obama's planting questions are just as dishonest and unethical as Bush's" or "Obama's planting questions are not just as dishonest and unethical as Bush's" are the options suggested by the OP. The fact that the questioner being a plant was not established and in fact seems incredibly unlikely to glossed over.
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Look at the the post of mine you quoted again:
Now look back at the two videos you've posted so far.
How exactly does -
A: A clip of a CNN opinion segment where the host pushes birtherism
or
B: A clip of a roundtable discussion about birtherism where birthers were invited
do anything to dispute what I said?
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Do you understand the difference between hard news and opinion segments? You've failed to show any evidence that the networks mentioned are pushing these stories.