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New Protomen Album is out! Arguments kinda suck when they're not in Rock Opera format

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    I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I really don't want it to be sniper joe, at least, not the robot version.

    I really can't see why they would name the character Joe if they weren't directly referencing Sniper. Any one-syllable name would've worked.
    But Sniper Joes were built based on Protomen designs!

    Not the other way around. >:C

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Olivaw wrote: »
    AMP'd wrote: »
    As much of The Hounds as I can get down
    Tonight the streets are red, the lights are blue and blinding
    No sign of the good doctor but the sirens wailing
    Well I'll tell you what I found! [I don't think this is right]

    I can almost hear the hounds

    What kind of man builds a machine to kill a girl?
    No he did not use his hands like a smart man, he used a tool
    But just the same
    Can you question who's to blame?

    (What was her name?!)
    Doesn't matter. Now listen!

    The good Doctor Light has to pay!

    When I say he was a monster
    When I set fire to his name
    It does not matter where you hear it from
    Whether truth or lies
    It gets there all the same

    Whatever's on the table plays!

    There is a flame that I've been fanning
    There is a fire waiting to catch
    There is a hell that has been building from the moment we first met

    If there ever was a time
    If there ever was a chance
    To undo the things I've done
    And wash these bloodstains from my hands

    It has passed and been forgotten
    These are the paths that we must take
    'Cause you and I, Tom, we are men
    And we can bend and we can break

    But if you think that you can run
    If you think that you can stand
    Well you forget who turned this city on
    You forget who plugged this city in!

    Then I'd switch it off again!

    One by one [something something]

    I am glad I am not the only one having trouble hearing the end of the third line

    Two things: misplaced comma, "he did not use his hands, like a smart man he used a tool." I think that's how it's phrased, because it seems like he's complimenting himself on being so smart in framing Light

    And I think it's "they'll not switch it off again!" but I'm not sure. It seems like that line is conveying how strong his hold over the people is

    Christ this is why I need the CD, I'm thinking way too much about this shit
    Your version makes more sense at the very least.

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    AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Olivaw wrote: »
    AMP'd wrote: »
    As much of The Hounds as I can get down
    Tonight the streets are red, the lights are blue and blinding
    No sign of the good doctor but the sirens wailing
    Well I'll tell you what I found! [I don't think this is right]

    I can almost hear the hounds

    What kind of man builds a machine to kill a girl?
    No he did not use his hands like a smart man, he used a tool
    But just the same
    Can you question who's to blame?

    (What was her name?!)
    Doesn't matter. Now listen!

    The good Doctor Light has to pay!

    When I say he was a monster
    When I set fire to his name
    It does not matter where you hear it from
    Whether truth or lies
    It gets there all the same

    Whatever's on the table plays!

    There is a flame that I've been fanning
    There is a fire waiting to catch
    There is a hell that has been building from the moment we first met

    If there ever was a time
    If there ever was a chance
    To undo the things I've done
    And wash these bloodstains from my hands

    It has passed and been forgotten
    These are the paths that we must take
    'Cause you and I, Tom, we are men
    And we can bend and we can break

    But if you think that you can run
    If you think that you can stand
    Well you forget who turned this city on
    You forget who plugged this city in!

    Then I'd switch it off again!

    One by one [something something]

    I am glad I am not the only one having trouble hearing the end of the third line

    Two things: misplaced comma, "he did not use his hands, like a smart man he used a tool." I think that's how it's phrased, because it seems like he's complimenting himself on being so smart in framing Light

    And I think it's "they'll not switch it off again!" but I'm not sure. It seems like that line is conveying how strong his hold over the people is

    Christ this is why I need the CD, I'm thinking way too much about this shit

    Those sound about right

    The comma error is from the original lyrics I found, with a bunch of easy errors that I'd think someone would catch

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I really don't want it to be sniper joe, at least, not the robot version.

    I really can't see why they would name the character Joe if they weren't directly referencing Sniper. Any one-syllable name would've worked.
    But Sniper Joes were built based on Protomen designs!

    Not the other way around. >:C

    I

    I really don't think they care.

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    The opening is:
    Tonight the streets are red, the lights are blue and blinding
    No sign of the good doctor but the sirens wail and whine
    And tell us what they found

    I don't know how well that last line fits

    I still think it's something else

    But again, I don't know

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    I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I have stated multiple times that I am a megaman fanboy

    A megaboy, if you will.

    I mean you're probably right, but I care.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Olivaw wrote: »
    The opening is:
    Tonight the streets are red, the lights are blue and blinding
    No sign of the good doctor but the sirens wail and whine
    And tell us what they found

    I don't know how well that last line fits

    I still think it's something else

    But again, I don't know

    It's definitely "wail and whine"

    but yeah I'm not 100% sure about the last line either.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    When I listen to The Hounds I picture Dr. Wily with a a robotic slut on his arm as he dances down a neon-lit street at night.

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    ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Well there's definitely tell and found. But it's not clear how much he got his hands dirty with framing light. His basic argument is well basically even though this turned out really well I could have half assed it and it woulda been the same.

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    AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I'm extremely happy with how I imagine the city growing from a frontier town into the 80s metropolis we all know and love

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    ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    huh what about "what a terrorist they've found" or "have you found"

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    AMP'd wrote: »
    I'm extremely happy with how I imagine the city growing from a frontier town into the 80s metropolis we all know and love

    I actually get a stronger image of that happening in reverse during intermission.

    Like I imagine seeing the city skyline and having all the skyscrapers slowly being pulled away as though they're pieces of setting, and then the clouds part and the sun rises over the smaller buildings that are left.

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    I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I have stated multiple times that I am a megaman fanboy

    A megaboy, if you will.

    I mean you're probably right, but I care.
    A very good point was made in the youtube comments of the Father of Death single.

    They already messed with the order the robots were created in

    Protoman was the very first, followed by what would become the robot masters, not so here.

    So yeah it's probably sniper joe.

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    CantideCantide Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    So whoever said Beards Going Nowhere fits as a fun little love ballad from Light to Emily was dead fucking on.

    It really does work well. Good Doctor - Father of Death is one of the track breaks that doesn't have any musical overlap, so you can stick a song between without it jarring. And the little electronic noises at the end of Beards Going Nowhere are even a little like the tinkling sounds that start up Father of Death.

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    KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    edited September 2009
    Olivaw wrote: »
    The opening is:
    Tonight the streets are red, the lights are blue and blinding
    No sign of the good doctor but the sirens wail and whine
    And tell us what they found

    I don't know how well that last line fits

    I still think it's something else

    But again, I don't know

    tell us who they found

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I am now going to lay in bed and listen to both albums the whole way through for the third time today before going to sleep.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Keep Quiet, best as I can make it out
    I’ve seen your face in the shadows
    And I’ve seen your face in the places I wasn’t meant to be
    I’ve heard them whisper about you
    I’ve heard the men in the bars and I’ve seen the women lock their doors at night
    (Lock your doors tonight!)

    They say your world is on fire [not sure about this]
    They say you killed a man for walking the wrong side of the line
    (Wrong side of the line!)
    But men, they say a lot of foolish things
    And in the end the only words I can find to believe in are mine

    They say (this city)
    This city (she’s been dead)
    She’s been dead for years now (for years now)
    For years now (for years now)
    So death is (so death is)
    Not something (not something)
    Not something that scares me (that scares me)
    That scares me (that scares me)
    There’s worse things (there’s worse things)
    Than death here (than death here)
    They told me (Keep Quiet)

    I will not be told where to stand;
    I will not be told what to say, not by man or machine, not by you, not by anyone tonight
    Gonna have to do better than fear
    Gonna have to step out of the shadows and fight

    And when they see your face again
    They will know what it means to have fear dragged out into the light (Drag it out!)

    This city (she’s been dead)
    She’s been dead for years now (for years now)
    For years now (for years now)
    So death is (so death is)
    Not something (not something)
    Not something that scares me (that scares me)
    That scares me (that scares me)
    There’s worse things (there’s worse things)
    Than death here (than death here)

    etc.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Man, look at that album cover again

    The left side is all old brick buildings and Ford Model T's and shit
    The right side is all skyscrapers and future-cars and motorcycles

    I just now noticed that

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    AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Good catch, GG

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    Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    WE WILL BE HEROES

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    MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I wanna know what's going on at the end of Keep Quiet

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Veretas wrote: »
    I wanna know what's going on at the end of Keep Quiet

    You mean the running, breathing, and chain-link fence sound effects?

    Theories on the Protomen forum include Joe evading a robot patrol or Light sneaking back into the city

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    ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    why won't itunes let me put beards in the middle of the album

    goddammit

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Make a playlist?

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    MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Man I wanna know where I can get a copy of beards

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    AMP'd wrote: »
    I'm extremely happy with how I imagine the city growing from a frontier town into the 80s metropolis we all know and love

    I actually get a stronger image of that happening in reverse during intermission.

    Like I imagine seeing the city skyline and having all the skyscrapers slowly being pulled away as though they're pieces of setting, and then the clouds part and the sun rises over the smaller buildings that are left.

    As I read this I imagined a stage production of Acts I and II and now I must see such a thing done

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Veretas wrote: »
    Man I wanna know where I can get a copy of beards

    http://www.protomen.com/beardsgoingnowhere/

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    ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Make a playlist?

    why can't i just tell it whats what

    why i gotta make a PLAYLIST

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    ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    this is extremely frustrating

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    ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    okay i got it working that was absolutely retarded

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    MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Projeck what songs did you put it between

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Veretas wrote: »
    I wanna know what's going on at the end of Keep Quiet

    You mean the running, breathing, and chain-link fence sound effects?

    Theories on the Protomen forum include Joe evading a robot patrol or Light sneaking back into the city

    My impression was that it was Joe, exhausted from whatever he's doing during the song, at the base of Wily's tower. then you hear the mechanical door open and Wily or robots or something step out to respond to him.

    Maybe not though.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    AMP'd wrote: »
    I'm extremely happy with how I imagine the city growing from a frontier town into the 80s metropolis we all know and love

    I actually get a stronger image of that happening in reverse during intermission.

    Like I imagine seeing the city skyline and having all the skyscrapers slowly being pulled away as though they're pieces of setting, and then the clouds part and the sun rises over the smaller buildings that are left.

    As I read this I imagined a stage production of Acts I and II and now I must see such a thing done


    This has been my dream since the first time I heard Act I.

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    MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I've uh...I've been wanting to make a computer animated music video of these. I mean I know how to do it....I dunno it might be too silly.

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    AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Wait until Act III before you plan that kind of thing, guys

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    Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Hell, I would settle for the video game sprite treatment newgrounds gave Unrest in the House of Light for every song.

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    CantideCantide Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    AMP'd wrote: »
    I'm extremely happy with how I imagine the city growing from a frontier town into the 80s metropolis we all know and love

    I actually get a stronger image of that happening in reverse during intermission.

    Like I imagine seeing the city skyline and having all the skyscrapers slowly being pulled away as though they're pieces of setting, and then the clouds part and the sun rises over the smaller buildings that are left.

    As I read this I imagined a stage production of Acts I and II and now I must see such a thing done


    This has been my dream since the first time I heard Act I.

    I can't not see a stage production whenever I listen to The Hounds. It'd be perfect. I've practically got the song choreographed.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I will settle for nothing less then a movie with a multi-million dollar budget.

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    ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Veretas wrote: »
    Projeck what songs did you put it between

    good doctor and father of death

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    KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    edited September 2009
    just 45 minutes of panther on the john

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