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[Abstinence] Sex and the Lack There Of
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This neo-feudalism would be more tolerable if our betters had fancy titles.
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See how many books I've read so far in 2010
They're kinda permanent, aren't they?
It would be more accurate to say that they're "kind of" impermanent.
You can get them reversed but unlike other forms of birth control it's not something you can swap around on a week-to-week basis...
The only people who should even consider getting one are people who know definitively they don't want kids anymore, ever, under any circumstances. It's best to avoid surgery unless it's necessary, after all.
Also put me down for the male BC pill. In my ideal world, the BC pill would be equally available to both parties. Because of possibility of failure and STDs, condoms would still be essential for sex most of the time (and to protect from either party bullshitting "oh yeah, i'm totally on the pill") but having three failsafes is always better than two, and it doesn't seem fair for the entire responsibility to fall on the woman should the condom break/fail.
Damn, that sucks. I hope they work those things out. I have terrible cholesterol and the acne thing does not sound desirable.
As for Vasectemy- No fucking way. No one is altering my privates, I like them just the way they are.
Also, how have some people turned a thread on Abstinence into rape?
my unofficial autobio will be accompanied with tips on how to smile
cause I've found that when they don't see you frown, they never know that you're a threat
and they don't sweat you when you came around
Or the side affects of the female BC pills, or BC in general, can be nice like acne reduction, or the vast reduction of periods.
It really is.
That's probably part of why it doesn't work!
Well, it's a well publicized but little understood cognitive dissonance that is popular with religious peoples, so it's off limits to ask "What the hell could make someone think this way when *all* evidence is to the contrary?"
I just find it odd that sex isn't stigmatized in other Western countries as much as it is in the US. But violence is OK. We need zoning laws for those sleazy video stores with impractical lingerie selections and deucedly odd toys which can't interact with my G.I. Joes in any meaningful way but a film about scalping Nazis doesn't get a second look.
Pretty much this.
A movie where a war hero is brutally beaten to death by a terrorist with a baseball bat, no less.
We had videos to explain most of the stuff we should know. Teacher even talked about oral sex. The only funny thing I remember in the videos was seeing a teenage girl in a school thinking to herself "why is there a feeling of wetness in my pants when I talk to this boy?" followed by an explanation.
I have no idea if we still have these sex ed classes in school, but I certainly hope we do.
And then the teacher said, "None of you boys do that," or something to that extent.
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how many times have you dropped that tidbit
I've seen it at least twice in a very short timeframe. Its less profound than he thinks it is.
I'd be all over the male BC pill. Nothing like another line of defense that doesn't involve condoms, which my wife dislikes quite a bit.
One of these days I really should go through the freeze sperm and snip-snip dance. Anyone here have experience with that?
my unofficial autobio will be accompanied with tips on how to smile
cause I've found that when they don't see you frown, they never know that you're a threat
and they don't sweat you when you came around
Best. Typo. Ever.
my unofficial autobio will be accompanied with tips on how to smile
cause I've found that when they don't see you frown, they never know that you're a threat
and they don't sweat you when you came around
Twice.
Both times in the last week.
You guys suck.
The problem I have with this is that there are still sperm being ejected with some motility, and mysteriously the idea is always about 5 years away and has been since the 90's - which suggests that the hormonal approaches at least don't work very well, or the side-effects are unacceptable.
I'd assume that it's far easier to sabotage an organ that releases an egg once a month than it is to sabotage an organ that continuously cranks out sperm. I'd be impressed if there's a way to do it short of pretty much shutting the testes down.
So the idea for homones then shifted to the secondary observation that progestogen has a reproductive inhibitor function in both men and women. But that can impact male sex characteristics. So the middle ground is that they want to up just enough progestogen that it blocks sperm production, and balance it out with enough testosterone to prevent the side-effects of that. But, it's always 5 years away and it's not a 100% process.
The one I liked better was the idea of finding an inhibitor protein which disable the flagellum of sperm in the vas deferens, so they couldn't actually swim.
Then there's my idea: switchable retrovirus which destroys the ovum when it encounters it!
EDIT: Also some of these ideas have some pretty retarded corrolaries built in - a protestogen implant, and then getting testosterone shots every 4-6 weeks to prevent the inhibition of male sex characteristics? I mean, I believe a major component of the female pills success is that the worst thing it can do is exaggerate female sex characteristics.
Anyway, I got my sex ed from reading my dad's porn magazines, which isn't as bad as it sounds! It was a really good magazine, promoting openess about sex, and it taught me most things from how it all worked, to stds.
So that's how it in norway.
There are other interesting mechanisms of action, too. You can alter the outer coating of the spermatozoa so they can no longer bind with or penetrate the ovum. There are also drugs that cause the vas deferens to clamp down during orgasm.
The biggest problem is that the known mechanisms of action are based on existing medications that are already in generic. Who wants to put the money into marketing a drug you can't patent?
That would at least simplify the spit v. swallow argument.
It would become swallow v. put on chocolate cake.
Should I leave?
Wouldn't work. Stopping ejaculation messes up the favoured immune status of sperm so the immune system clobbers them. That's why vasectomies aren't particularly reversible.
I may have gotten a little snippy about that.
Of course, we've had threads where people swear up and down that 9/11 was an inside job, so I guess anything's possible.