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Sen. Ted Kennedy dies at 77

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  • Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    RIP Ted Kennedy, we are not to see your like again.

    And a lot of the circumstances in 1980 where of Carter's own making. Even then Reagan had to pander to the racists and spread vile rumor about a "October suprise" .

    Kennedy might have had it different. He sure as hell would have fought back, tooth and nail.

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  • GoslingGosling Team Monica Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    Hachface wrote: »

    Was there an entire department at the Times preparing for this man's death?

    (probably)
    The major papers don't get caught flat-footed on this kind of thing. The more prominent they are, the older they live to, and the more expected the death, the more writer's-magnum-opus the obituary gets.

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  • themightypuckthemightypuck Registered User regular
    Dyscord wrote: »
    I don't really buy that. Reagan only won by eight points, and Carter was a spectacularly terrible politician considering the level he ascended to.

    Sort of more interesting to think about what the result of a Kennedy win in 72 might've been. Watergate never happens, the Great Society keeps chugging along, and nearly an entire generation develops a different view about government.

    That is a sweet fantasy. Canada except bigger and richer.

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  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Holy shit, I mean, I'd almost even forgotten he'd been sick since his stroke last year. I can't believe he'd held on for this long.

    This is really fucking sad. I didn't even have any idea how much he'd done in the Senate and how many bills he pushed through until I read the NYT obit....important ones, too, not just The Rainbows are Pretty Act of 1985. It's jarring to lose someone as effective as that, especially during this time where we're as close to healthcare reform as we've ever been.

    I am certain his death will be a huge bludgeon against the opponents of reform, but honestly, I doubt that it will serve to be as potent against the nutters as needed. I mean, Fox need only (and has been) focus on the womanizing, the alcoholism, and Chappaquiddick to lessen the impact and significance of his death after a long (Reaaaally long, considering the severity of the tumor) battle with brain cancer. Which is, of course, deplorable, but this is all that is needed to keep the anti-reformers content with themselves in dismissing just what Teddy's death means.

    He will be missed :(

  • DukiDuki Registered User
    Nixon in 72 was much more of a sure thing than Reagan was in 1980.

    72 was ridiculous.

  • HacksawHacksaw The "New Scum" Registered User regular
    Thanatos wrote: »
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    I would absolutely describe him as lovable

    and womanizing? that rules out practically all politicians and statistically a hell of a lot of the population as a whole

    it's just sex
    You know who had a shitty personal life?

    FDR.

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  • themightypuckthemightypuck Registered User regular
    Duki wrote: »
    Nixon in 72 was much more of a sure thing than Reagan was in 1980.

    72 was ridiculous.

    He was an incumbent. Before Carter you had to go to Hoover and the depression for a one term president.

  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    R.I.P. Teddy. Huge loss, especially right now. You'll be missed.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    I was gonna write up a big post about Ted Kennedy and how living in Massachusetts make the Kennedys look like immortal figures, but I decided against it.

    I think Ted Kennedy's career speaks for itself.

  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    :(

    Day to the date of his apperance in the Democratic Convention.

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  • themightypuckthemightypuck Registered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    :(

    Day to the date of his apperance in the Democratic Convention.

    Wow. At least he got a last dance.

  • psychotixpsychotix __BANNED USERS
    Fox will spin this with his letter to try and reverse the special election law that he helped pushed forward as liberal hypocricy.

  • clownfoodclownfood Registered User regular
    Somewhere Jello Biafra has noticed a sizable increase in airplay.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    psychotix wrote: »
    Fox will spin this with his letter to try and reverse the special election law that he helped pushed forward as liberal hypocricy.
    Honestly, that was pretty bullshit. They pushed the law through to prevent a Republican governor from choosing a replacement were Kerry to have won the presidency, then Kennedy wanted it repealed so a Democratic governor could appoint a replacement in order to maintain the supermajority without a lag period of only 59 senators.

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  • Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular

    Thank you for linking that AH.

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    Fox are talking more about LOL HE WAS A FAT DRUNK WHO KILLED A PRETTY WHITE WOMAN etc

  • Hockey JohnstonHockey Johnston Registered User
    To me, TK is one of those great examples of how you can still change the whole trajectory of your life in your 40s or 50s. And by sticking with it and remaining committed, your mistakes and shortcomings mean less and less.

    He may not have deserved his seat early on, but he'd more than earned it by the time he died.

  • AlejandroDaJAlejandroDaJ Registered User regular
    Rest in peace, Senator Kennedy. Sunset of a bygone era.

    This made me sadder than I thought possible. For some reason I wasn't even expecting it, despite the fact that it was all but a forgone conclusion. Man.

    His son's Congressional office is a few blocks away from me, I may stop by to pay my condolences despite the fact that Pat is in (cough) rehab right now. Any other DC PA'ers planning on doing the same?

  • deowolfdeowolf Registered User regular
    clownfood wrote: »
    Somewhere Jello Biafra has noticed a sizable increase in airplay.

    Ouch.

    That's way worse than the 'lolbama death panels couldn't get Ted' joke I was gonna force.

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  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    Ruined my day completely when I woke up and saw this. He was a truly Great Man. Its a blow not only to his family and his supporters but the country. He made the United States a better place and he stood up for everyone who needed help. He's been demonized by conservatives since the Civil Rights Act and let that identify the true worth of those who still demonize him today.

    Ultimately he's irreplaceable. We'll elect a liberal here in Massachusetts to take his seat. If we get really lucky it'll be someone who looks to Teddy's example and has courage and strength of conviction. And he or she might even aspire to someday to be as capable a legislator. But no one could replace the Lion.
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  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    I guess I was never really exposed much to the history of the guy like you guys were this isn't really impacting me at all.

    He was just a Kennedy in the Senate to me.

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  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Registered User regular
    Duki wrote: »
    Nixon in 72 was much more of a sure thing than Reagan was in 1980.

    72 was ridiculous.
    72 ended up as ridiculous. McGovern was initially 4-7 points behind Nixon.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    I would not be shocked to see Barney Frank in that seat, as much as I fucking hate Frank.

  • psychotixpsychotix __BANNED USERS
    psychotix wrote: »
    Fox will spin this with his letter to try and reverse the special election law that he helped pushed forward as liberal hypocricy.
    Honestly, that was pretty bullshit. They pushed the law through to prevent a Republican governor from choosing a replacement were Kerry to have won the presidency, then Kennedy wanted it repealed so a Democratic governor could appoint a replacement in order to maintain the supermajority without a lag period of only 59 senators.

    Indeed, and it's going to bite them in the ass now.

  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Registered User regular
    I would not be shocked to see Barney Frank in that seat, as much as I fucking hate Frank.
    Why do you hate Barney Frank? Are you a kitchen table?

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  • Goose!Goose! I'm jumpin' IN! Wraaugh!Registered User regular
    Guys were saying early in the thread that they wondered how Fox News would spin this. I just tuned in and they had their female anchor talking about how if you go to Fox News' website you can see an interactive timeline of Ted Kennedy's life and career and it shows different screens from it including his date of birth, announcing his senate run, being elected, JFK being assassinated, plane crash he hurt his back in, RFK being assassinated, and then the last screen they show before going back to the news desk is "Televised Address" and in the description it says Kennedy delivers a televised address to explain his actions at Chappaquiddick.

    Now, maybe I just like to be conspiratorial, but they couldn't have ended their little feature before that screen? They had to end it on that?

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  • Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular
    Barney Frank becomming a US Senator would be awesome, especially since he seems like the kind of guy that sticks to his convictions.

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  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    Barney Frank becomming a US Senator would be awesome, especially since he seems like the kind of guy that sticks to his convictions.

    Frank might be too much of a firebrand for the Senate. I think it'll either be a Kennedy (Joe probably) or Delahunt.

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  • psychotixpsychotix __BANNED USERS
    PantsB wrote: »
    Barney Frank becomming a US Senator would be awesome, especially since he seems like the kind of guy that sticks to his convictions.

    Frank might be too much of a firebrand for the Senate. I think it'll either be a Kennedy (Joe probably) or Delahunt.

    Kennedy was a firebrand, so shouldn't be a problem.

  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Ruined my day completely when I woke up and saw this. He was a truly Great Man. Its a blow not only to his family and his supporters but the country. He made the United States a better place and he stood up for everyone who needed help. He's been demonized by conservatives since the Civil Rights Act and let that identify the true worth of those who still demonize him today.

    Ultimately he's irreplaceable. We'll elect a liberal here in Massachusetts to take his seat. If we get really lucky it'll be someone who looks to Teddy's example and has courage and strength of conviction. And he or she might even aspire to someday to be as capable a legislator. But no one could replace the Lion.
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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Barney Frank becomming a US Senator would be awesome, especially since he seems like the kind of guy that sticks to his convictions.

    Frank might be too much of a firebrand for the Senate. I think it'll either be a Kennedy (Joe probably) or Delahunt.

    If Joe Kennedy comes back, the Repubs will go nuts, especially if he gives a shoutout to Venezuela. We should do it.

    Hell, I would pay anything to see a Barney Frank/ Joe Kennedy administration.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Barney Frank becomming a US Senator would be awesome, especially since he seems like the kind of guy that sticks to his convictions.

    Frank might be too much of a firebrand for the Senate. I think it'll either be a Kennedy (Joe probably) or Delahunt.

    Frank will be spun into the seat through use of "Look! He's the first openly gay Senator!" to gather him votes from the rest of the liberals. I tried to vote that idiot out of office in '08 but yeah, this is Mass, I knew it was a losing cause.

  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Barney Frank becomming a US Senator would be awesome, especially since he seems like the kind of guy that sticks to his convictions.

    Frank might be too much of a firebrand for the Senate. I think it'll either be a Kennedy (Joe probably) or Delahunt.

    Frank will be spun into the seat through use of "Look! He's the first openly gay Senator!" to gather him votes from the rest of the liberals. I tried to vote that idiot out of office in '08 but yeah, this is Mass, I knew it was a losing cause.

    Actually, he'll probably just use footage of that town hall. Seriously, we love it when he does that shit.

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  • DerrickDerrick Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Barney Frank becomming a US Senator would be awesome, especially since he seems like the kind of guy that sticks to his convictions.

    Frank might be too much of a firebrand for the Senate. I think it'll either be a Kennedy (Joe probably) or Delahunt.

    Frank will be spun into the seat through use of "Look! He's the first openly gay Senator!" to gather him votes from the rest of the liberals. I tried to vote that idiot out of office in '08 but yeah, this is Mass, I knew it was a losing cause.

    What exactly do you find disagreeable? I say this because he's certainly one of the more well-spoken and fast-witted senators.

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  • KastanjKastanj __BANNED USERS
    He gay? Cool. I just always assumed he was merely incredibly awesome.

    Poor Kennedy. If he is anywhere now I hope it's a place where he can meet his family.

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  • HonkHonk Registered User regular
    Holy shit it couldn't have been easy for Ted most of his life. I read the article on CNN, was familiar with his name but not his history. Seems like he lost almost everyone in his family. Five or was it six(!!!) plane crashes? Two assassinations, and then some.

    Rest in peace mr Kennedy, looks like you were well liked.

  • Hockey JohnstonHockey Johnston Registered User
    Every time there's a pro marijuana or pro gambling bill that I'm a big fan of, Barney Frank is involved.

  • DalbozDalboz Registered User regular
    Derrick wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »
    Barney Frank becomming a US Senator would be awesome, especially since he seems like the kind of guy that sticks to his convictions.

    Frank might be too much of a firebrand for the Senate. I think it'll either be a Kennedy (Joe probably) or Delahunt.

    Frank will be spun into the seat through use of "Look! He's the first openly gay Senator!" to gather him votes from the rest of the liberals. I tried to vote that idiot out of office in '08 but yeah, this is Mass, I knew it was a losing cause.

    What exactly do you find disagreeable? I say this because he's certainly one of the more well-spoken and fast-witted senators.

    Frank is still a little too "out there" and a firebrand to hold onto a Senate seat. He's more of a firebrand than Kennedy, much more. Kennedy generally tended to try to work with Republicans when the opportunity and will was actually there. Frank has no interest in appealing to anyone other than his base. It makes it much hard maintain control in an election for Statewide office than in an individual, more local district where people are more familiar with him.

    Anyway, to the main subject, I just saw this on the news when I got up this morning. I did not expect this so soon. Kennedy really was one of the last of dying breed of politicians. A twentieth and twenty-first century political icon has been lost and will be missed.

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