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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Hah hah, 514 is just code for E V E. Now you have to resubscribe because you said you would!

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    There is potential there but Blizzard does not have a good track record for RTS games.

    It'll be worth a buy for the artwork and music alone. But if WC3 / Starcraft are any indication the gameplay will pall rather quickly.

    O_o

    Rule #14: If it exists someone doesn't like it.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Hah hah, 514 is just code for E V E. Now you have to resubscribe because you said you would!

    Noooooooooooo!!!

    Well, I'm out to go kick it with some old friends. Catch you all later.

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    AJAlkaline40AJAlkaline40 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    starcraft 2 is going to be another microfest isnt it

    No, Starcraft II is going to be the best thing that has ever happened to gaming.

    There is potential there but Blizzard does not have a good track record for RTS games.

    It'll be worth a buy for the artwork and music alone. But if WC3 / Starcraft are any indication the gameplay will pall rather quickly.

    The reason I say that it will be the best thing that has ever happened to gaming is because of this (keep watching past the first one, it gets better):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joNPrnY4K_4

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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Game set and match, EvE thread.

    Eddy: Based on the videos I've seen it looks even more micro intensive than the original Star Craft.

    Yeah thats why I could never play an rts.

    No, that's why you (and many others) don't like Blizzard style real-time-tactics games (they do not deserve the Strategy label).

    But the genre is not entirely barren. There are excellent RTS games to be had. TA / SupCom of course. But also Rise of Nations, Cossacks / Cossacks 2, even Homeworld and the Total War series.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Kagera wrote: »
    Rule #14: If it exists someone doesn't like it.

    It's just...you know, up until WoW blizzards entire track record pretty much was RTS games, and Diablo. I mean Warcraft 2 and Starcraft are an amazing track record in the eyes of the world. I mean, Starcraft is basically THE RTS for many people.

    I mean, personal opinion and all that, but that doesn't change what blizzard's track record is.

    Edit: Riemann, as much as I love the total war games they are pieces of ass with terrible AI and game balance and need to be user modded to hell and back to be good games.

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    BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    There are rhetorical tricks that can break that cycle
    Prove it.

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Bama wrote: »
    There are rhetorical tricks that can break that cycle
    Prove it.

    He just did prove it.

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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Kagera wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    There is potential there but Blizzard does not have a good track record for RTS games.

    It'll be worth a buy for the artwork and music alone. But if WC3 / Starcraft are any indication the gameplay will pall rather quickly.

    O_o

    Rule #14: If it exists someone doesn't like it.

    Starcraft you can debate. Certainly it is an interesting tactics / micro heavy game. Not much on strategy and way behind TA which came out months earlier but still.

    But look at what they've done in the last decade: Warcraft 3.

    blegh. I want my $50 bucks back.

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Bama wrote: »
    There are rhetorical tricks that can break that cycle
    Prove it.

    Loren said so.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Rule #14: If it exists someone doesn't like it.

    It's just...you know, up until WoW blizzards entire track record pretty much was RTS games, and Diablo. I mean Warcraft 2 and Starcraft are an amazing track record in the eyes of the world. I mean, Starcraft is basically THE RTS for many people.

    I mean, personal opinion and all that, but that doesn't change what blizzard's track record is.

    Yeah I dunno.

    I'm pretty sure Starcraft being played constantly for ELEVEN FUCKING YEARS is a pretty good sign the game is 'good' but then again Britney Spears has had an eleven year career.

    I dunno, I'm wait and see on SC2 because I don't like the idea of being stuck playing the human side or whatever side comes out first.

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    BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Alright. Sark, wiggin, in the box.

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    deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    There is potential there but Blizzard does not have a good track record for RTS games.

    It'll be worth a buy for the artwork and music alone. But if WC3 / Starcraft are any indication the gameplay will pall rather quickly.

    O_o
    Well, WC3 is not as good as their previous RTS games...but yeah o_O

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    BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I won't go so far as to say WC3 was an abomination, but, well, God wasn't pleased.

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Bama wrote: »
    Alright. Sark, wiggin, in the box.

    I think we we had here was a failure to communicate

    Oh my god this dude (creepy motherfucker) is convinced that in What's Opera Doc it was a spear and magic hammer

    It's a speaw and a magic hewmet

    Fucking hell you goddamn retard

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    SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I enjoyed warcraft III

    I totally hate most RTS games though, and almost all of the ones RTS nerds love

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    AJAlkaline40AJAlkaline40 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    I enjoyed Warcraft 3, but it wasn't a great game. I may also have been influenced by being a huge WoW nerd so I was all "neat, I recognize these dudes".

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    JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    why isnt wc3 good again?

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    WC3 had really great custom maps

    except DOTA which can die in a fire

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Elendil wrote: »
    Than you are cold as ice

    ..... Paradisssseeeee

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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    A fundamental flaw - one among many but perfectly showing the problems in the design - in Warcraft 3 was the limit on the number of units that can be selected at once.

    It is not a strategy game. Despite the excellent artwork (which, itself, is good despite the primitive engine) the gameplay is shallow and focussed on controlling your hero and a handful of units.

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    deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Jokerman wrote: »
    why isnt wc3 good again?
    Too much emphasis on the hero units, basically.

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    GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Massachusetts set the special election for January 19th. Which means in all likelihood it will either be a temporary appointment to the seat or risk the healthcare bill being filibustered to death. Because odds are the Senate won't be able to hold out that long to wait for the seat to get filled.

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    matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Ugh. A motor on our Koenig roll divider stopped working this morning. It turns a brush that removes excess flour and dough from the main divider wheel, basically a big round block of plastic with roll-sized cutouts in it.


    All the motor that died does is turn that little brush about once a second. Nothing else.


    It costs $2400.

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    Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Bama wrote: »
    There are rhetorical tricks that can break that cycle
    Prove it.
    Can't. I'm invested in my xwalk discussions. Buuut... one trick is to have a meta discussion on what exactly the dishonest party is doing and ignore all attempts to change the subject back to the "cite?/I did cite!" discussion. Make it personal and then the discussion purely revolves around shit that's in the thread. The problem is that there's always someone who's going to take the bait for the original discussion and the dishonest party can go back to being a lying worm and ignore the metadebate.

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    DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Uhh...

    so hero units make the game bad.

    okay then.

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    BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Uhh...

    so hero units make the game bad.

    okay then.
    Yes, that's exactly what was said.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Uhh...

    so hero units make the game bad.

    okay then.

    And RTS is usually about commanding an army, not an uber unit and some throwaway support units.

    That's a tactics game.

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    BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Kohan had hero units.

    Kohan was fun.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Bama wrote: »
    Kohan had hero units.

    Kohan was fun.

    Well even WC2 had hero units.

    But not like WC3's hero units.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I like the total war games, Rome was really fun. If only because I got caught by a numerically superior force, but I had the high ground and much like Joshua Chamberlin I made those bastards pay for trying to take the high ground!

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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Any game that artificially makes it so you can only select a dozen or so units at once is not a strategy game.

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    Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I totally forgot I had Medieval total war, I wish I had a nice PC to play it on though... :(

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    matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Borderlands looks so fun, SO FUN!

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    I like the total war games, Rome was really fun. If only because I got caught by a numerically superior force, but I had the high ground and much like Joshua Chamberlin I made those bastards pay for trying to take the high ground!

    Fucker, you're gonna make me install that shit talking like that.

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    SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I guess I always liked tactical games like Myth more than RTSes, so the small unit management and heroes was more my thing

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Wow, I assumed that "Disney buys Marvel" thing was just some retarded meme.

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    Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I laughed at that commercial.

    Wouldnt use the toothpaste though.

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