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Flickchart. Rating movies has never broken this many hearts.

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  • VariableVariable Ted Hitler Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    yeah, that's what I was saying earlier. every matchup it loses only movies it down 1 spot. pain in the ass.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Top 20:

    Lost in Translation
    Amadeus
    Psycho
    The Prestige
    The Big Lebowski
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
    Vertigo
    Alien
    The Dark Knight
    Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
    Wall-E
    Pan's Labyrinth
    Raiders of the Lost Ark
    The Empire Strikes Back
    The Incredibles
    The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
    Hot Fuzz
    Shaun of the Dead
    Children of Men
    Star Wars

    It took a fair bit of tinkering, but I have no complaints aside perhaps from Star Wars being a tad high

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  • SliverSliver Registered User
    edited September 2009
    What in the name of all that is good and sweet in Odin's beard is this?

    On my top 20

    Good night and good luck,
    Total Times Ranked: 9
    Percentage of Times Won: 55.56%

    Rank: 6

    Amadeus
    Total Times Ranked: 15
    Percentage of Times Won: 100%

    Rank: 7

  • ElkiElki hegemon globalSuper Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited September 2009
    The win percentage would probably be a better way to rank them.

  • SliverSliver Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Elki wrote: »
    The win percentage would probably be a better way to rank them.

    how in the hell does it rank them now?

  • ElkiElki hegemon globalSuper Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited September 2009
    Sliver wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »
    The win percentage would probably be a better way to rank them.

    how in the hell does it rank them now?

    Let's say you have a movie ranked at 3. And another ranked 300. If they go head-to-head and you pick the movie ranked at 300, it becomes #3, and the original 3 goes to #4.

  • SliverSliver Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Elki wrote: »
    Sliver wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »
    The win percentage would probably be a better way to rank them.

    how in the hell does it rank them now?

    Let's say you have a movie ranked at 3. And another ranked 300. If they go head-to-head and you pick the movie ranked at 300, it becomes #3, and the original 3 goes to #4.

    So I've basically got to wait for good night and good luck to lose to amadeus?

    edit: I just got a chance to decide between barton fink and good night and good luck, and picked barton fink. Now barton fink is 6, good night and good luck is 7, and amadeus is 8.

    Ferpect.

  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    I know which I should pick, but god damn it. It's a piece of my childhood, and I loved it so.
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  • pots+panspots+pans Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Usual Suspects vs Toy Story 2. Aargh.

  • SliverSliver Registered User
    edited September 2009
    in general, how many rankings do you need to make before your list starts evening out and looking the way you want it to?

  • KG3000KG3000 Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Dammit! Ocean's Eleven (2001) vs Goldfinger

    What?
  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Sliver wrote: »
    in general, how many rankings do you need to make before your list starts evening out and looking the way you want it to?

    I think I just passed 500 recently and there are still a few outliers on my top 20. At the very least all of them are movies that I like.

  • VariableVariable Ted Hitler Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Sliver wrote: »
    in general, how many rankings do you need to make before your list starts evening out and looking the way you want it to?

    do you mean the entire list of just your top 20?

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Variable wrote: »
    Sliver wrote: »
    in general, how many rankings do you need to make before your list starts evening out and looking the way you want it to?

    do you mean the entire list of just your top 20?

    Seriously. After 500+ ratings my top 20 is... passable, if not great. My bottom 20 is horrendous, though. I suspect thousands upon thousands of ratings would be necessary to make anything resembling an accurate list. They need a much better algorithm, something akin to Netflix that looks at not only your ratings but those of others similar to you.

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  • VariableVariable Ted Hitler Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    Sliver wrote: »
    in general, how many rankings do you need to make before your list starts evening out and looking the way you want it to?

    do you mean the entire list of just your top 20?

    Seriously. After 500+ ratings my top 20 is... passable, if not great. My bottom 20 is horrendous, though. I suspect thousands upon thousands of ratings would be necessary to make anything resembling an accurate list. They need a much better algorithm, something akin to Netflix that looks at not only your ratings but those of others similar to you.

    yeah, same. I haven't looked at the bottom of my list but when you get say

    hot fuzz vs. true romance

    and I haven't had either yet, one is going to the middle of my list and one is going to the bottom... and both should be in the top 50 probably. though that at least makes more sense than the lack of a better process.

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  • KetarKetar Duke of Weaseltown Like an agile peacock!Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    Sliver wrote: »
    in general, how many rankings do you need to make before your list starts evening out and looking the way you want it to?

    do you mean the entire list of just your top 20?

    Seriously. After 500+ ratings my top 20 is... passable, if not great. My bottom 20 is horrendous, though. I suspect thousands upon thousands of ratings would be necessary to make anything resembling an accurate list. They need a much better algorithm, something akin to Netflix that looks at not only your ratings but those of others similar to you.

    Indeed. I called it quits tonight when I hit 1100 movies ranked in well over 2000 ratings, and my top 20 still has a long way to go. Close Encounters, while an excellent film, is definitely not my #2, and there are many movies that deserve to be much higher than the 100-200 wasteland they find themselves in right now, but they only seem to come up against movies I already have ranked lower. I still have movies in my top 20 that have only been rated vs others 2-3 times, while there are great films that I've chosen 100% of the time 10 or more times that sit 150 spots down in my rankings just because they never manage to match up with anything ranked higher for me.

    It's still strangely enjoyable to sit and contemplate which of 2 sometimes completely disparate films I prefer, but the overall ranking system pretty much sucks.

  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    Ketar wrote: »
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    Sliver wrote: »
    in general, how many rankings do you need to make before your list starts evening out and looking the way you want it to?

    do you mean the entire list of just your top 20?

    Seriously. After 500+ ratings my top 20 is... passable, if not great. My bottom 20 is horrendous, though. I suspect thousands upon thousands of ratings would be necessary to make anything resembling an accurate list. They need a much better algorithm, something akin to Netflix that looks at not only your ratings but those of others similar to you.

    Indeed. I called it quits tonight when I hit 1100 movies ranked in well over 2000 ratings, and my top 20 still has a long way to go. Close Encounters, while an excellent film, is definitely not my #2, and there are many movies that deserve to be much higher than the 100-200 wasteland they find themselves in right now, but they only seem to come up against movies I already have ranked lower. I still have movies in my top 20 that have only been rated vs others 2-3 times, while there are great films that I've chosen 100% of the time 10 or more times that sit 150 spots down in my rankings just because they never manage to match up with anything ranked higher for me.

    It's still strangely enjoyable to sit and contemplate which of 2 sometimes completely disparate films I prefer, but the overall ranking system pretty much sucks.

    Part of the problem seems to be that it's more interested in population rankings rather than individual rankings.

    Besides that, they need a recalculate function that takes all your answers and generates a list that comes closest to being consistent with all of them.

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  • SliverSliver Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Variable wrote: »
    Sliver wrote: »
    in general, how many rankings do you need to make before your list starts evening out and looking the way you want it to?

    do you mean the entire list of just your top 20?

    Top 20.

    I've just decided to go on a reranking spree and hope I get the list on flickchart to come close to resembling the one in my head.

  • frandelgearslipfrandelgearslip Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    My user name is frandelgearslip.

    I have to say I am having a much harder time deciding between two bad movies then I am good movies.

    Planet of the Apes (Marky Mark version) vs Don't Mess with the Zohan is a much harder choice than
    raiders of the lost ark vs star wars

    My god you have to sink some serious time into the site to get any kind of representative top 20. It took me thirty minutes of actual work to knock Shreck off of the number one position in my top 20 and this is for a movie that I would not put in my top 250.

    Speaking of not being able to rank bad movies:
    Barbed Wire vs The Shadow. That has to be the hardest decision yet.

  • TheCanManTheCanMan Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Here's something interesting to look at. In the global ranking, what are the highest ranked movies you haven't seen.

    For me it's:
    37. Wall-E
    39. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
    43. No Country for Old Men
    56. Finding Nemo
    59. Children of Men

  • areaarea Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Top five unseen movies:

    3. The Empire Strikes Back
    4. Raiders of the Lost Ark
    5. Pulp Fiction
    7. The Shawshank Redemption
    9. Return of the Jedi
    Spoiler:

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  • TheCanManTheCanMan Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    area wrote: »
    Top five unseen movies:

    3. The Empire Strikes Back
    4. Raiders of the Lost Ark
    5. Pulp Fiction
    7. The Shawshank Redemption
    9. Return of the Jedi
    Spoiler:

    I won't hurt you. You've hurt yourself far more than I could possibly dream to.

  • HonkHonk Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    I just got this, gonna try it out properly a bit later. Name is Honkalot.

  • BolthornBolthorn Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Top 5 I have not seen:

    7. The Shawshank Redemption
    21. GoodFellas
    24. The Usual Suspects
    27. The Big Lebowski
    29. The Departed

    I actually don't feel that bad about it.

    And my top 20 is getting better, but still far from perfect.

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  • KetarKetar Duke of Weaseltown Like an agile peacock!Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Bolthorn wrote: »
    Top 5 I have not seen:

    7. The Shawshank Redemption
    21. GoodFellas
    24. The Usual Suspects
    27. The Big Lebowski
    29. The Departed

    I actually don't feel that bad about it.

    And my top 20 is getting better, but still far from perfect.

    I'm tempted to say that not caring that you haven't seen the first four makes you a bad person. Not having seen them certainly qualifies you as deprived.

    The Departed though? Yeah, don't worry about that one.

    Top ranked films I haven't seen:

    43. No Country for Old Men
    102. Aladdin
    111. The Royal Tenenbaums
    115. Trainspotting
    148. Casino

    No Country will be taken care of this week thanks to Netflix. Aladdin and Casino are the two I don't care about, and Tenenbaums and Trainspotting are both films I'd like to watch eventually, but never quite get around to.

  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Top films I haven't seen:

    56 Finding Nemo
    72 The Truman Show

    Well, that's all I got to before it stopped loading for me.

    Also, the global rankings seem very odd in places (The 1989 Batman is #60? I like the film but I could probably name a couple of hundred that should be ranked higher).

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  • KG3000KG3000 Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Hehe just got Conan the Barbarian VS Ghandi. Looks like passive resistance didn't work this time.

    What?
  • zenonzenon Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Top 20:

    1. Wall-E
    2. There Will Be Blood
    3. Magnolia
    4. The Purple Rose of Cairo
    5. Amelie
    6. The Royal Tenenbaums
    7. Children of Men
    8. Ratatouille
    9. Star Wars
    10. Up
    11. Dr. Strangelove
    12. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
    13. Toy Story
    14. Collateral
    15. Adaptation
    16. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    17. 28 Days Later
    18. The Empire Strikes Back
    19. Miami Vice
    20. The Life Aquatic

    I have no clue how Collateral got there. The others are accurate though.

  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Top 5 I haven't seen:

    57. Sin City
    90. V for Vendetta - seen bits and pieces but never the whole thing all the way through
    105. Heat
    123. Predator - pieces
    148. Total Recall

    Honestly I'm not crying over having missed any of those.

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  • jammujammu Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    You have Arnold sized hole in your soul!

    My top not seen 5:
    The Shawshank Redemption 7 (never heard)
    The Godfather 11 (Highly acclaimed classic. Just like Citizen kane, which was shit.)
    Batman Begins 13 (Superheroes, meh)
    The Usual Suspects 24 (no idea)
    Saving Private Ryan 26 (Not interested in ww2)

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  • ChanusChanus Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
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    edited September 2009
  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    zenon wrote: »
    Top 20:

    1. Wall-E
    2. There Will Be Blood
    3. Magnolia
    4. The Purple Rose of Cairo
    5. Amelie
    6. The Royal Tenenbaums
    7. Children of Men
    8. Ratatouille
    9. Star Wars
    10. Up
    11. Dr. Strangelove
    12. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
    13. Toy Story
    14. Collateral
    15. Adaptation
    16. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    17. 28 Days Later
    18. The Empire Strikes Back
    19. Miami Vice
    20. The Life Aquatic

    I have no clue how Collateral got there. The others are accurate though.

    You have good taste. :^:

  • TheCanManTheCanMan Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    jammu wrote: »
    You have Arnold sized hole in your soul!

    My top not seen 5:
    The Shawshank Redemption 7 (never heard)
    The Godfather 11 (Highly acclaimed classic. Just like Citizen kane, which was shit.)
    Batman Begins 13 (Superheroes, meh)
    The Usual Suspects 24 (no idea)
    Saving Private Ryan 26 (Not interested in ww2)

    I would strongly suggest seeing Shawshank and the Usual Suspects. Especially if you haven't heard of them.

  • KaputaKaputa Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    How do I choose between The Matrix and There Will Be Blood? They're so different. :(

    Also, my username there is Kaputa.

  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Why does everyone fucking hate on Citizen Kane? I don't understand how you could think it's a "shit" movie. It has a good story, isn't long, Orson Welles is good, and is extremely well shot and put together.

    I feel like people who shit on Citizen Kane are also people who hate the following "old and boring" movies:
    Casablanca
    Gone with the Wind
    Lawrence of Arabia
    Vertigo
    The Maltese Falcon
    To Kill a Mockingbird
    I could go on...

    Citizen Kane isn't even in my top 20 of favorite movies. Not by a long shot. It is a good movie though, and the reason it ended up at the top of all these "greatest films" lists is because it revolutionized filmmaking.

    Personally I think it's impossible to call Citizen Kane crap and turn around and say Shawshank Redemption and Shindler's List are favorites - I find them to be similar films. I enjoyed them all when I saw them, but when I think "what do I want to watch" for a comfort movie of any kind they definitely don't come up.

    Sorry for the rant but I feel like Citizen Kane is unjustifiably shit on by people who either haven't seen it, or went into it thinking "BORING" and didn't actually watch it.

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  • KaputaKaputa Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    Why does everyone fucking hate on Citizen Kane? I don't understand how you could think it's a "shit" movie. It has a good story, isn't long, Orson Welles is good, and is extremely well shot and put together.

    I feel like people who shit on Citizen Kane are also people who hate the following "old and boring" movies:
    Casablanca
    Gone with the Wind
    Lawrence of Arabia
    Vertigo
    The Maltese Falcon
    To Kill a Mockingbird
    I could go on...
    Man, I haven't seen any of these. I need to brush up on my classics.

    Right now the site thinks 12 Monkeys is my favorite film and puts Boondock Saints in my top ten. I don't even like Boondock Saints! And, I mean, 12 Monkeys was good and all, but not that great.

  • KaputaKaputa Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Oh fuck, Spirited Away vs. Schindler's List. D:

  • jammujammu Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    Why does everyone fucking hate on Citizen Kane? I don't understand how you could think it's a "shit" movie. It has a good story, isn't long, Orson Welles is good, and is extremely well shot and put together.

    Citizen Kane isn't even in my top 20 of favorite movies. Not by a long shot. It is a good movie though, and the reason it ended up at the top of all these "greatest films" lists is because it revolutionized filmmaking.

    Personally I think it's impossible to call Citizen Kane crap and turn around and say Shawshank Redemption and Shindler's List are favorites - I find them to be similar films. I enjoyed them all when I saw them, but when I think "what do I want to watch" for a comfort movie of any kind they definitely don't come up.

    Sorry for the rant but I feel like Citizen Kane is unjustifiably shit on by people who either haven't seen it, or went into it thinking "BORING" and didn't actually watch it.

    Citizen kane is nickelback of the movies.
    Spoiler:

    But seriously I don't give bonus for movies for historical purposes. Metropolis and original king kong were both revolutionary in their times, but are still pretty lousy on modern standards.

    Casablanca (14th on my list)
    The Maltese Falcon (32nd)
    Gone with the Wind (low because paired against awesomer movies)

    All of these I've seen and they're still great, because they weren't revolutionary movies, they were simply awesome movies.


    On side about artsier movies: Anyone seen and liked the Dancer in the dark (the bjorks movie)?
    I went to see it in theater back when it was new and I was definately youngest (20:sh) audience member by margin of 20+ years to next youngest that watched the whole movie.

    I thought it was good in its own preachy way.

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  • KetarKetar Duke of Weaseltown Like an agile peacock!Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    Why does everyone fucking hate on Citizen Kane? I don't understand how you could think it's a "shit" movie. It has a good story, isn't long, Orson Welles is good, and is extremely well shot and put together.

    I feel like people who shit on Citizen Kane are also people who hate the following "old and boring" movies:
    Casablanca
    Gone with the Wind
    Lawrence of Arabia
    Vertigo
    The Maltese Falcon
    To Kill a Mockingbird
    I could go on...

    Citizen Kane isn't even in my top 20 of favorite movies. Not by a long shot. It is a good movie though, and the reason it ended up at the top of all these "greatest films" lists is because it revolutionized filmmaking.

    Personally I think it's impossible to call Citizen Kane crap and turn around and say Shawshank Redemption and Shindler's List are favorites - I find them to be similar films. I enjoyed them all when I saw them, but when I think "what do I want to watch" for a comfort movie of any kind they definitely don't come up.

    Sorry for the rant but I feel like Citizen Kane is unjustifiably shit on by people who either haven't seen it, or went into it thinking "BORING" and didn't actually watch it.


    Eh, while Citizen Kane is obviously very important because of what it did for film making, I just don't find it nearly as enjoyable to watch as any of the other films you listed. It truly is boring for me by comparison. The Maltese Falcon, while not boring, also doesn't quite stack up with the others for me, but classics like North by Northwest or Rear Window would certainly take their places for me among the great films of all time. Casablanca and Rear Window will both probably be in my top 20 once it shakes out, and the others most likely in the top 100. Citizen Kane will probably end up several hundred spots lower though (I think I'm at about 1,250 movies ranked right now, and ever-climbing) - in the realm of good, but not outstanding for me.

    It would certainly be a far more important film than most, if not all, of the films ranked ahead of it for me, but not a more enjoyable one. And that's how I'm ranking on this site - based on what I prefer watching, not on what is more objectively a better film.

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