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[Purgatory On] Junta

PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
edited October 2009 in Critical Failures
Ye Olde OP:
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Welcome to the Republica los Bananas, a sunny, tropical nation with an itsy bitsy corruption problem. The population scrapes by on a few pesos a day, while the ruling Junta swipes all the foreign aid. Luckily for you, you're the ruling Junta.

Junta is a game of diplomacy, negotiation, intrigue, and occasionally military command. Each player will control one of the rulers of the republic. The winner is the person who's managed to hide the most money in their Swiss bank account by the end of the game. Most of the play is about dividing the foreign aid money the country receives, and surviving long enough to get it in the bank. Expect lots of arguments, voting, assassinations, and violent coups.

It's a pretty fun game, and it's good at forcing players into a writhing mass of shifting alliances. One player posted a rewrite of the rules on BGG, here's the link, so you can get a feel for the game. It's for up to seven players, and it gets better as people are added, so we'd be shooting for the full seven. We've got four already from the general boardgame thread, so there are three spots open. It's pretty fun, not too complex, and worth a try, I think.


Gigantic Board:

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Current Cabinet

Orange Soda [President]
Current Influence: Students(3)

Osvik [Air Force Commander]
Current Influence: Labor Union(5)

Darian [Minister of Internal Security]
Current Influence:

Hermenegilde [Second General]
Current Influence:

Pygmalion [Third General]
Current Influence: Bankers(7)

Giltanis [Admiral of the Navy]
Current Influence: Socialists(5), Radicals(3)

BobCesca [First General]
Current Influence: University Faculty(3)


Current Progress:
Turn 1:

Phases:
Draw 2 Political Cards
Assign Cabinet Positions
Draw 8 Money Cards
Propose/Vote on a Budget [Bank Open? Bank is Closed for Holiday]
Choose a Location
Use Assassins [Bank Safe? Bank not Safe]
Banking
Starting a Coup? [Coup Excuse? Coup Excuse] [Current Phase]
Coup Aftermath

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    OsvikOsvik Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Well I'll confirm my comments from the boardgames thread and !sign up

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    PygmalionPygmalion Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Looks interesting, but I've never played a board game PbP. Do I need to have anything special?

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    giltanisgiltanis Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    !Sign up

    What do we expect the time scale on this one to be?

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    INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I would like to sign up but I don't know the game. :(

    Someone wanna hold my hand? :P

    actually no i shouldn't :(

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    DarianDarian Yellow Wizard The PitRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Reserve up

    I'll be watching the thread and can play if you don't get enough players, but I'm perfectly content to just sit back and enjoy this one.

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    PygmalionPygmalion Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I've read the rules, but I obviously have only seen that picture of the gameboard from the link. Assuming I don't need to own the game, I'd be happy to !signup and figure it out as I go. After the first phase, I'm sure I'd know what's going on. Please disregard if that ain't gonna work.

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    PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    giltanis wrote: »
    !Sign up

    What do we expect the time scale on this one to be?

    That would depend on how much discussion amongst yourselves you do. It's not mechanically too complex, so we should probably be able to bang through it pretty quick. Probably shorter than an average BSG game.

    Pygmalion wrote: »
    I've read the rules, but I obviously have only seen that picture of the gameboard from the link. Assuming I don't need to own the game, I'd be happy to !signup and figure it out as I go. After the first phase, I'm sure I'd know what's going on. Please disregard if that ain't gonna work.

    You won't need anything special or a physical copy of the game. Most of the game is based on interactions between players. It doesn't even need the board unless someone stages a coup.

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    PygmalionPygmalion Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Then so be it.

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    HermenegildeHermenegilde Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    !signup for bananas and glory

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    BobCescaBobCesca Is a girl Birmingham, UKRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I played this once ages ago, so I'll !sign up for some politicing :P

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    DarianDarian Yellow Wizard The PitRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Are you going to permit private communications, or must everything happen in-thread?

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    PygmalionPygmalion Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I like in-thread. It's more interesting to follow.

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    DarianDarian Yellow Wizard The PitRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I don't know how much whispering and pulling people aside to discuss things in private tends to happen in this game; is it more like Diplomacy or more like regular games?

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    PygmalionPygmalion Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I assume it's like Catan.

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    PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Ok, so I guess we're good to go. I count these people as being up for it:

    Orange Soda
    Osvik
    Maximus
    Hermenegilde
    Pygmalion
    Giltanis
    BobCesca

    with Darian in reserve? Let me know if I made any mistakes.

    As for whether PM's are allowed or not, I could go either way on that. It might help some people to scheme, but I wouldn't really want the thread to be a ghost town. So, in the spirit of the game, I'll let you guys vote on whether you want to keep it all in the thread or not.

    In a bit I'll also send out PM's with your starting hand of cards. Everyone starts with five, and each represents different events, assassins, bribes, influences, and votes. At the beginning of the game you'll need to elect a Presidente, using your vote and influence cards. Here's the handy summary of how voting works from that re-write:
    ROLL CALL VOTING
    All votes in Junta follow the same process and are referred to as Roll Call Votes. The only exception is the instatement of a new President by the Junta after a successful Coup (see COUP AFTERMATH section).
    - The voting occurs in two rounds.
    - In each round players use votes from their Cabinet Member position cards, Influence cards and Vote cards.
    - The President votes first and the other players follow in a clockwise direction.
    - Each player may use anywhere from none to all of their cards to vote. They can even use different cards to vote in different directions.
    - When all players have had a chance to vote the second round of voting occurs, moving clockwise from the President once again.
    - On the second round players may use as many of their remaining cards as they like to vote. They can use these cards to vote differently from the first round but cannot change any votes already made in the first round.
    - The motion with the most votes is carried. In the case of a tie the President decides.
    - All Vote cards used are discarded. Influence cards remain in front of the players, and can be reused in subsequent Roll Calls.

    PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS
    You will need to vote for a new President by Roll Call voting at the beginning of the game, if the old President is killed or resigns, or if a vote of no confidence succeeds. The voting process is as other Roll Call votes as detailed above with the following differences.
    - Voting starts with the game’s owner at the beginning of the game [and with the Minister of the Interior any other time] and then moves clockwise as usual.
    - The first round of voting is the nominating round, each player can nominate a candidate, add votes for an existing candidate or abstain.
    - In the second round players get the opportunity to cast additional votes for any of the existing candidates.
    - After this the player with most votes becomes President, unless they decline.
    - All Vote cards used are discarded.
    - If there was a tie or the elected President declined then start all over again.

    So once you get your cards, you can begin nominating candidates, and you can nominate yourself if you wish. Any questions before we start?

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    PygmalionPygmalion Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I vote for in-thread scheming.

    I assume the cards have descriptions and such. Everybody vote for me, I'd make a terrible president.

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    Orange SodaOrange Soda Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I am officially throwing in my hat for president. I promise to fulfill each and every campaign promise that I need to make to you in order for you to elect me.

    Also, let's keep the discussion in thread as pm game can end up pretty broken and I am not a huge fan of how the results end up. More boring for the host or anyone following the game, so my vote is all in the thread.

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    PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Ok, everyone should have their hands now. I was about halfway through when I decided since I was typing them all up anyway, I might as well do it now, so I put them all in a spreadsheet. If you're paying attention to the rules, and you ought to, it says players get 6 cards at the beginning, but my print edition says 5, so that's why you've only got 5 cards.

    For the initial Presidential election, you've only got whatever Influence and Vote cards you were dealt, but in the future you'll also usually have votes associated with your governmental position.

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    BobCescaBobCesca Is a girl Birmingham, UKRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    yeah, everything in-thread sounds better, I mean, if we were doing this across a table we'd all know who was talking to whom.

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    Orange SodaOrange Soda Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I'm going to bed, but I will read the rules tomorrow and update whatever I need to update :P

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    giltanisgiltanis Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yah I say the Thread for now also. Its hard to say with having never played before. When will the first turn start?

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    OsvikOsvik Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    In thread is the way to go. I can see who is working against me that way and plan assassinations accordingly.

    Also new AV for this game yay!

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    DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Edit: I'm totally late. Reserve.

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    What is this I don't even.
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    HermenegildeHermenegilde Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    All right. I have a vague idea of how this game works.
    Vote for the president starting with the owner.
    Who is considered the owner of the game ?

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    BobCescaBobCesca Is a girl Birmingham, UKRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I'm guessing we're going in the order of player as listed by PolloDiablo above? (So, Orange Soda, Osvik, Maximus, Hermenegilde, Pygmalion, Giltanis, BobCesca).

    That would mean that for the first round of nominations, OS would be going first?

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    HermenegildeHermenegilde Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    OK with me.

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    PygmalionPygmalion Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Seems as reasonable as anything else. I can't find a list of the Cabinet Positions in the rules, so the only one I really have a handle on is Minister of the Interior. Even then I assume there's more going on.

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    HermenegildeHermenegilde Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Minister of the Interior, General, General, General, Admiral, Air force commander

    Each of them has control of the various armies scattered around the island

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    Orange SodaOrange Soda Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Can we get something representing the board put in the OP for when the military coup thing will invariably occur.

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    PygmalionPygmalion Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    That makes sense. From what I gather, everybody must get 1 cabinet position and no more than 2. We have seven players. One president + 6 cabinet posts means everybody will have to get one position, so there'll be no doubling up.

    I'm too stupid to be president, but I'm willing to play kingmaker in exchange for Interior. I'll even go along with whatever loony budget you feel like passing if you hand me some cash. I'm easy to please and not trigger-happy.

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    giltanisgiltanis Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    That sounds fine with me. Still not in the full swing of things but I imagine I will feel more comfortable after the first few bits of the game have passed.

    Who is interested in being our brave leader anyway?

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    HermenegildeHermenegilde Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Well OS has to nominate someone or pass.

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    HermenegildeHermenegilde Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Can we get something representing the board put in the OP for when the military coup thing will invariably occur.

    Like a banana ?

    "Now. This banana represents the board. With me so far ?"

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    Orange SodaOrange Soda Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I nominate myself

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    PygmalionPygmalion Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Let's see who nominates themselves and if they turn out to be jerks we can boot them out.

    Edit: Oops, spoke too soon.

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    HermenegildeHermenegilde Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Osvik's turn to nominate someone.

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    Orange SodaOrange Soda Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Pygmalion wrote: »
    Let's see who nominates themselves and if they turn out to be jerks we can boot them out.

    Edit: Oops, spoke too soon.

    This guy!

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    OsvikOsvik Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I am going to abstain from the vote at this point.

    However I will say that I have an Influence card in my hand and control a Labor Union which has 5 votes.

    I am willing to give these votes to the highest bidder in the next round of voting.

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    PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Minister of the Interior, General, General, General, Admiral, Air force commander

    Each of them has control of the various armies scattered around the island

    Right. Here's the text for each of them. They also each grant 1 vote to the player who holds them.

    President: Controls the Palace Guard. Assigns positions during the Cabinet Assignments phase. Draws foreign aid money during the Receiving Foreign Arid Money phase. Proposes the Budget during the Budget phase.

    Minister of Internal Security: Controls the Police. May seize the Chamber of Deputies if the Budget is defeated during the Budget phase. May attempt one assassination with his Secret Police free during the Assassination phase (with restrictions). May have any returning exiles shot.

    Admiral of the Navy: Controls the Gunboat and the Marines.

    Air Force Commander: Controls Airstrikes and the Paratroops.

    First General: Controls the First Army Brigade.

    Second General: Controls the Second Army Brigade.

    Third General: Controls the Third Army Brigade.

    I'll work up a board for the OP, but for the moment I'll just put up the image of it without the pieces. Pegasus Games just made a great looking reprint, and I really prefer their board, problem is it's in German. I might relabel it if it turns out to be easy, otherwise I'll put up the older board.

    For voting, we'll just go down the player list, and when it hits you, for this round of voting you can either nominate someone for president, add votes for an existing candidate, or pass. So for the moment it's [strike]Osvik's[/strike] Maximus' turn to nominate someone, add votes, or pass.

    Orange Soda
    Osvik
    Maximus
    Hermenegilde
    Pygmalion
    Giltanis
    BobCesca

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    PygmalionPygmalion Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Thanks for the info.

    Osvik, fellow kingmaker. Let's form a cartel.

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