[TF2] Thread ends with a wimper, not a bang.

Metal Gear Solid 2 Demo · September 2009

Asiina wrote: »

Eh, I play Cloak and Dagger spy and do pretty well for myself.

Not having to worry about the timer running out is very useful, but if you're just going to hang around for the perfect moment, it's not going to happen.

Good spies don't have to worry about running out the timer plus they stay mobile if they plan their routes correctly

shadydentist · September 2009

Honestly, there are so many ammo packs every where that running out of cloak is rarely a problem for a good spy.

Which is why I use the c&d.

BahamutZERO · September 2009

Awesome I got screenshot'd

Roland_tHTG · September 2009

SithDrummer wrote: »

Roland_tHTG wrote: »

tyrannus wrote: »

fuck the way blind and zek used to use the dead ringer. god I hate that

So, two out of three people in this post don't play the game. Sith, see what you started?

I'm a trendsetter Roland, I do what I do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBcWEz-QqFE&feature=fvw

Nuzak · September 2009

ban roland

Zek · September 2009

Metal Gear Solid 2 Demo wrote: »

Asiina wrote: »

Eh, I play Cloak and Dagger spy and do pretty well for myself.

Not having to worry about the timer running out is very useful, but if you're just going to hang around for the perfect moment, it's not going to happen.

Good spies don't have to worry about running out the timer plus they stay mobile if they plan their routes correctly

good non-spies know those routes and will shoot there

FightTest · September 2009

I use the cloak and dagger.

Spoiler:

Jaunty · September 2009

For the record
Enders is the fucking best patient ever

Nuzak · September 2009

amen to that

Kupi · September 2009

Yes, good spies will keep their cloak bar full with ammo pickups while using the normal invisibility watch. Good for them! If you're a bad spy (like me!) you will find yourself repeatedly appearing right in the middle of the enemy team (unexpectedly, that is), flailing as your bungled backstab leaves you with no safe exit (because living enemies do not drop their weapons and allow you to recharge your cloak meter), and waiting off in the back for your cloak to recharge enough to get you safely to the next ammo pickup. Which won't be there because an enemy just took it, who then proceeds to splatter your perfectly-visible self.

Bunglers are bunglers, and the standard invisibility watch provides plenty of ways for a bad spy to be useless. So, just because the Cloak and Dagger permits players to be overcautious doesn't mean it's inherently worse than the Invisibility Watch. I'm still waiting for a more convincing argument that it's utterly without merit.