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[Ultimate Comics] Divided We Fall

Magna InfernoMagna Inferno Registered User regular
edited July 2012 in Graphic Violence
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Divided We Fall is here!

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Ultimate Comics Spider-Man
Writer: BRIAN BENDIS
Artist: DAVID MARQUEZ/SARA PICHELLI(Former:Chris Samnee)

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Ultimate Comics Ultimates
Writer: SAM HUMPHRIES(Former:Johnathon Hickman)
Artist: BILLY TAN/LUKE ROSS(Former:Esad Ribic, Brandon Peterson)

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Ultimate Comics X-Men
Writer: BRIAN WOOD(Former:Nick Spencer)
Artist: PACO MEDINA/CARLO BARBERI

And there have been some minis!

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Ultimate Comics Iron Man
Writer: NATHAN EDMONDSON
Artist: MATTEO BUFFAGINI

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Spider-Men
Writer: BRIAN BENDIS
Artist: SARA PICHELLI

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Ultimate Comics Hawkeye
Writer: JONATHAN HICKMAN
Artist: RAFA SANDOVAL

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Ultimate Avengers was off to a pretty terrible start.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    Are you high

    We got Cap riding a motorcycle out of a building, "parachutes are for girls", and the Red Skull revelation

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I'm with Me Too!, I loved the first UCA issue. Now if you don't like Mark Millar's writing style then you won't like UCA of course.

  • ServoServo Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited September 2009
    mark millar is the most hit-and-miss writer in comics for me. when he hits, i really like it (red son, the second volume of the original ultimates), but when he misses (wanted), it's some of my all-time least favorite entertainment ever in any medium. i guess what i'm saying is he's earned an "always trade-wait" from me.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I liked a lot of the action, dialog, and plot in the very first Ultimates volume, which was the only one I ever read.

    I hated the pop-culture references that were already outdated by the time it made it to trade. Especially Hulk chasing Freddie Prince Jr. through New York.

    I've decided to give UCA a try just because I'm craving some Cap action, and I left my Brubaker Omnibus back at home.

  • TexiKenTexiKen it's a one way street, whichever way I go Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Servo wrote: »
    mark millar is the most hit-and-miss writer in comics for me. when he hits, i really like it (red son, the second volume of the original ultimates), but when he misses (wanted), it's some of my all-time least favorite entertainment ever in any medium. i guess what i'm saying is he's earned an "always trade-wait" from me.

    Or he pulls bullshit like comparing modern America to nazi Germany in his WWII Wolverine issue, or he goes with Whedon's idea for the Civil War ending with the 9/11 heroes taking down Cap in what he thinks is a poignant moment but just roll eyes worthy. And he just won't shut up sometimes and let his work speak for itself.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
  • KidDorkKidDork Registered User
    edited September 2009
    I hated Millar's run on Fantastic Four, but enjoyed his These Heroes Are Assholes take in UA. The scene where
    Spoiler:
    summed up the feel of this team. I'm not optimistic with this book being on time in any shape or form, but I'll enjoy it when it arrives.

    I've given up on Warren Ellis, so Armor Wars is meh to me. Maybe when it trades, if enough of you like it.

    This is the first time I've gone monthly with Ultimate Spider-Man, and it's now one of my most looked for books. Even with the Sephiroth bangs Pete is rocking now.

  • TexiKenTexiKen it's a one way street, whichever way I go Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    That was Whedon's idea?

    That's what Quesada and Brevoort said when they did their big retreat for planning Civil War (Millar has confirmed this too), Whedon showed up and gave them the idea because they had no way to end the event. Millar's idea of an angry Hulk coming back with hulk babies would have been better.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    wait are you talking about the Wolverine in a concentration camp issue Texi? Cause I didn't get that from it at all.

    As for Millar in general I agree with Servo, although he hits far more often than he misses with.

    And 1985 is a perfect comic in every way.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I'm guessing that Whedon didn't suggest that a fireman, police man, and a paramedic tackle him at once. Really, if it'd just been a few police men and no one else, it would have worked a lot better.

  • TexiKenTexiKen it's a one way street, whichever way I go Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Balefuego wrote: »
    wait are you talking about the Wolverine in a concentration camp issue Texi? Cause I didn't get that from it at all.

    There was a letter nazi guy wrote at the end of the story that was pretty much what President Bush said about attacking terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Huh, funny I dont remember that at all. I just remember it being a pretty effective ghost story.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah, I never made the connection with that. Frankly I thought it was one of the best Wolverine stories ever.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    wrote:
    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
  • TexiKenTexiKen it's a one way street, whichever way I go Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I'm trying to find a scan of it somewhere but it was noticed in reviews like at comics bulletin:

    http://www.comicsbulletin.com/reviews/112774830360644.htm

    Millar does that shit all the time in his books, when he can't leave well enough alone.

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  • Kris_xKKris_xK Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Can someone fill me on how the fuck Magneto ended up with Thor's hammer in Ultimatum? Its still bugging me.

    Also, looks like the Ultimates might need to do some membership drives. Its pretty much just Hawkeye and Cap right now.

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  • KidDorkKidDork Registered User
    edited September 2009
    I really hope Spider-Man doesn't join the team.

  • ThaneThane Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Kris_xK wrote: »
    Can someone fill me on how the fuck Magneto ended up with Thor's hammer in Ultimatum? Its still bugging me.

    According to Loeb he ninja'ed it at from Thor at the end of Ultimates 3

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    KidDork wrote: »
    I really hope Spider-Man doesn't join the team.

    I'm going to let you think about this sentence and the fact that Peter is a minor and thus can't join a government sponsored anything for a few more years

  • Toxic ToysToxic Toys Braggadocio Open up the trunk, release the mech, Increase the power to the shield to protect, I never hit eject.Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    You know what - I pray Red Skull was lying.

    But so far so good for me.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I doubt Millar would copout like that.

  • KidDorkKidDork Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Me Too! wrote: »
    KidDork wrote: »
    I really hope Spider-Man doesn't join the team.

    I'm going to let you think about this sentence and the fact that Peter is a minor and thus can't join a government sponsored anything for a few more years

    Good point, but I wasn't thinking the legal issue. I was just thinking that Marvel might think it's a cool idea to tie-in their most beloved Ultimate character with their (currently only existing)super-team, thus getting those who only read UCSM to pick up Avengers as well.

    But naah. They'd never do that.

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Since Peter shows up in the big UCA issue 1 Pacheco splash cover, and the fact that Millar has stated it's the "event" comic for the UC universe, he should be turning up in the book sooner or later. I'm actually curious about this since, to the best of my knowledge, Millar has never written a single line of dialouge for the Ultimate version of Spider-man.

  • TexiKenTexiKen it's a one way street, whichever way I go Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Johnny Storm is only a year older than Peter, and he's with the FF who are/were a part of SHIELD.

    And I think Millar wrote that Avengers will have a rotating team as the stories deem it, kind of like the JLA under Morrison.

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  • AsharadAsharad Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah, Ultimate Avengers is more of a rotating theme. An upcoming arc has Blade and Ghost Rider, for example.

    I really enjoyed UA#1, I thought it was a lot of fun.

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I wonder if another Ultimate Marvel team-up book would work? It doesn't have to be written by Bendis, it could have a rotating writer and artist team. I'd like it to be an ongoing series but all the issues be practically self contained one-shots, or maybe 2 or 3 issue stories.

  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Have there ever been any jabs at characters by having their Ultimate counterparts just be normal people, off standing in the background?

    Like, perhaps Ultimate Sentry could be a mall cop.

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I think Ultimate Jessica Jones is a normal person, and not at all like her 616 counterpart in terms of personality.

    Ultimate Bob Reynolds being a mall cop is a fantastic idea though.

  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    That's a terrible idea, and it in no way reflects the beautiful splendor of The Sentry!

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    do you wanna see me eat a hotdog
  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Marry me, Faynor.

  • NinjabearNinjabear Lvl 5 Daggerman Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Did they ever do anything with Ultimate Rick Jones after Ultimate Origins #5?

    Play Hearthstone with me: Ninjabear#1307
  • TexiKenTexiKen it's a one way street, whichever way I go Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Marry me, Faynor.

    <3 :winky: <3

    do you wanna see me eat a hotdog
  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The PIT, level 26Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Have there ever been any jabs at characters by having their Ultimate counterparts just be normal people, off standing in the background?

    Like, perhaps Ultimate Sentry could be a mall cop.

    In Ultimate Spidey, there will frequently be scenes in a police station with cops having cuffed some costumed people who are dressed as 616 characters and usually raving. Speedball, Cloak, and Dagger spring to mind. I think there was even someone who was meant to be a Green Lantern at one point.

    The most memorable is an overweight black woman dressed as 616 Scarlet Witch screaming 'I'm not crazy! I'm not crazy!'

    Though I don't know if that would count as 'normal' people.

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  • Kris_xKKris_xK Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Have there ever been any jabs at characters by having their Ultimate counterparts just be normal people, off standing in the background?

    Like, perhaps Ultimate Sentry could be a mall cop.

    In Ultimate Spidey, there will frequently be scenes in a police station with cops having cuffed some costumed people who are dressed as 616 characters and usually raving. Speedball, Cloak, and Dagger spring to mind. I think there was even someone who was meant to be a Green Lantern at one point.

    The most memorable is an overweight black woman dressed as 616 Scarlet Witch screaming 'I'm not crazy! I'm not crazy!'

    Though I don't know if that would count as 'normal' people.

    Yeah, Spidey usually has a bunch. I think in Ult 131 (just prior to ultimatum) he goes in to the police station and theres a Spiderwoman in there getting arrested.

    The only other one that sticks out in my mind is in an Ultimate Xmen where the US government talks about mutants and Bishop gets named dropped - only in this universe, hes a criminal.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Bishop did appear later in the series, though.

  • Kris_xKKris_xK Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah you're right, I just struck that entire fucking arc from my mind.

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Ultimate Deadpool?

  • Magna InfernoMagna Inferno Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So it's been a while since i read the two Ultimate Iron Man's, but there was no previous mention of Tony's brother before UC 2 was there?

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I think both of Orson Scott Cards Ultimate Iron Man stories will be ignored by Millar.

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