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  • HaphazardHaphazard Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    my car has an upgraded ECU which makes it significantly faster

    when it comes time to sell, do I:

    a) leave the ECU upgraded without telling the buyer
    b) leave the ECU upgraded and inform the buyer
    c) roll back the upgrades to stock

    a) and b) make for a better test drive, a) and c) probably make for a better sale because the buyer doesn't get the impression it was raced (which it hasn't been), b) and c) are most honest

    C if you want to do the work and can resell the ECU. If you are lazy then A.

    hmm

    it's a pretty easy fix, the ECU is actually editable so it's just flashing the stock map back

    Could the updated ECU mean trouble for the new customer? I don't know anything about US vehicle inspection, sorry.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Leitner wrote: »
    I thought Islam was a-okay with trans people? Like they were treated personally as badly as they are in the west, but it was allowed at least in Iran.

    Well based on what achmawhateverthefuck says about gay people, I'd figure they'd claim they don't have any transgenders in Iran.

  • Delicious Toad!Delicious Toad! __BANNED USERS
    edited May 2009
    Leitner wrote: »
    I thought Islam was a-okay with trans people? Like they were treated personally as badly as they are in the west, but it was allowed at least in Iran.
    Iran has a fairly unique position on homosexuality and transsexuality. Compulsory sex changes are ... well, they're something. Or you can be executed! Your call.

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  • MrMisterMrMister Valuing scholarship above all elseRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    OremLK wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Yeah as a christian teaching creationism is fucking retarded, it doesn't even make sense and I don't believe it. But there are people on this very board who have espoused a position of moral and intellectual superiority because they don't believe in god. So when as a religious person atheists are telling you you're stupid and immoral it does tend to give you a negative opinion of them.

    It's hypocritical, too, because these are often the same people who decry religion primarily for promoting intolerance and closed-mindedness.

    Not believing in God is intellectually superior. That may be uncomfortable for people who believe in god, but it's the way of things.

    I accept that I probably believe some wrong things, but in all cases where I hold a belief, I'm willing to argue that it's intellectually superior to its alternatives. Otherwise, why would I hold it?

  • RonaldoTheGypsyRonaldoTheGypsy Do you like dags? Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    It could be worse.

    You could be French.

    EDIT: Not believing in God just means you aren't crazy.

    COME ON.

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  • JamesJames Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Nocturne wrote: »
    Someone who works at my company has the last name Fagg.

    D:

    It is too bad his first name is not Gaylord.

  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Leitner wrote: »
    I thought Islam was a-okay with trans people? Like they were treated personally as badly as they are in the west, but it was allowed at least in Iran.
    Iran has a fairly unique position on homosexuality and transsexuality. Compulsory sex changes are ... well, they're something. Or you can be executed! Your call.

    You mean compared to other islamic countries, or in the way they treated the subjects themselves?

    Edit: You edited that in just as I hit quote damn it. That's really odd - like they make gay people have sex changes or what?

  • victor_c26victor_c26 Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    After Opening Flogging Molly - Float. I'm reminded exactly how flexible CDs can be.

    I hate how "Jewel" cases now don't let you push in the center plastic pin to loosen it's grip.

    I have to bend the damn disc out in order to take it out of the case, at least for the first time. Hopefully that doesn't do any damage to the disc.

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  • PodlyPodly good moleman to youRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Leitner wrote: »
    Not everyone can discuss Wittgenstein over a cup of tea.

    Honestly if there were one philosopher that one could discuss over a cup of tea, it would be Wittgenstein. :P

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  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck ill-ass lemony snicket Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Haphazard wrote: »
    Could the updated ECU mean trouble for the new customer? I don't know anything about US vehicle inspection, sorry.

    I... don't think so? It's the part that controls the timing of all the little bits in your engine, how much fuel and oxygen to combust, how much turbo boost to give the car, etc.

    I don't believe the ECU is part of any inspection.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    OremLK wrote: »

    It's hypocritical, too, because these are often the same people who decry religion primarily for promoting intolerance and closed-mindedness.

    Oh believe me the irony is not lost on me. It's why I primarily avoid any religious discussion, I just fucked up today. I blame the questionable beef products I ate.

    Leitner Iran executes you I believe if you are gay/transgender.

  • Delicious Toad!Delicious Toad! __BANNED USERS
    edited May 2009
    Leitner wrote: »
    Leitner wrote: »
    I thought Islam was a-okay with trans people? Like they were treated personally as badly as they are in the west, but it was allowed at least in Iran.
    Iran has a fairly unique position on homosexuality and transsexuality. Compulsory sex changes are ... well, they're something. Or you can be executed! Your call.

    You mean compared to other islamic countries, or in the way they treated the subjects themselves?
    I don't know about any other Islamic countries, but the very popular tidbit that floats around in conversation is specifically about Iran and specifically about homosexuals facing execution or compulsory sex changes. The situation is dichotomized so strongly, really, that there's no parallels in any worthwhile sense to a statement like "I thought Islam was a-okay with trans people."

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  • HaphazardHaphazard Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Haphazard wrote: »
    Could the updated ECU mean trouble for the new customer? I don't know anything about US vehicle inspection, sorry.

    I... don't think so? It's the part that controls the timing of all the little bits in your engine, how much fuel and oxygen to combust, how much turbo boost to give the car, etc.

    I don't believe the ECU is part of any inspection.

    Yeah, don't move here. :P

  • Delicious Toad!Delicious Toad! __BANNED USERS
    edited May 2009
    For the record, I also haven't verified the veracity of that statement but I hear it all the time so at the very least it's a popular rumor if not fact. :shrug:

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  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    Leitner wrote: »
    I thought Islam was a-okay with trans people? Like they were treated personally as badly as they are in the west, but it was allowed at least in Iran.

    Well based on what achmawhateverthefuck says about gay people, I'd figure they'd claim they don't have any transgenders in Iran.
    Ahmedinejad, jeebus h mcchrist it's not outlandish

    And yeah Iran is pretty fucked up not just because it executes the gays, but because they have the option (as toad mentioned) to change sex

    it's weird

    fucking weird

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  • MrMisterMrMister Valuing scholarship above all elseRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    It perplexes me how a person believing they're right, or that their position is the most coherent, or intellectually desirable, is considered a great arrogance and somewhat detestable trait.

    I mean, doesn't everyone think they're right, and that their position is most coherent, and most intellectually desirable? If you thought some other position had those virtues, then why wouldn't you believe that other position instead?

    It's like, instead of arguing with me about why I'm wrong, the mere fact that I think I'm right disqualifies me from reasonable discussion. That's nonsense.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Leitner wrote: »
    I thought Islam was a-okay with trans people? Like they were treated personally as badly as they are in the west, but it was allowed at least in Iran.

    Well based on what achmawhateverthefuck says about gay people, I'd figure they'd claim they don't have any transgenders in Iran.
    Ahmedinejad, jeebus h mcchrist it's not outlandish

    And yeah Iran is pretty fucked up not just because it executes the gays, but because they have the option (as toad mentioned) to change sex

    it's weird

    fucking weird

    I didn't feel like looking it up Hakkes, just like I type out M. Night Schlamalongdingdong when I mean the dude from signs.

  • RonaldoTheGypsyRonaldoTheGypsy Do you like dags? Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Leitner wrote: »
    I thought Islam was a-okay with trans people? Like they were treated personally as badly as they are in the west, but it was allowed at least in Iran.

    Well based on what achmawhateverthefuck says about gay people, I'd figure they'd claim they don't have any transgenders in Iran.
    Ahmedinejad, jeebus h mcchrist it's not outlandish

    And yeah Iran is pretty fucked up not just because it executes the gays, but because they have the option (as toad mentioned) to change sex

    it's weird

    fucking weird

    In the States, it's called a Switcheroo and it costs a dollar for the operation, and you can have it done behind the McDonalds in my town.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Man, the religious thread poison has spread to [chat] too?

    Dang.

    I'm so useless on this subject.

    I poke my head in, go "Hey guys! I'm a religious person but also a moderate and not a pushy douche at all about my religion! We aren't all bad!"

    People generally ignore me or go "That's nice" at best and continue knifing each other.

    I'm so boring.

  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    OremLK wrote: »

    It's hypocritical, too, because these are often the same people who decry religion primarily for promoting intolerance and closed-mindedness.

    Oh believe me the irony is not lost on me. It's why I primarily avoid any religious discussion, I just fucked up today. I blame the questionable beef products I ate.

    Leitner Iran executes you I believe if you are gay/transgender.
    LGBT rights in Iran since the Iranian Revolution of 1979 have come under governmental persecution, with international human rights groups reporting public floggings and executions of lesbian, gay and bisexual individuals. Transsexuality in Iran is legal if accompanied by a sex change operation; however, transsexuals still report societal intolerance.[1] In 2007, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, speaking to Columbia University, said that homosexuality does not exist in Iran, though a spokesperson later stated that his comments were misunderstood.[2] Homosexuality is a crime punishable by death under the country's theocratic Islamic government.[3] Any type of sexual activity outside of a heterosexual marriage is forbidden. Gay men are treated far more harshly under the law than lesbians, and some men undergo sex change operations—which the late Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini declared permissible in a fatwa—to avoid harsh penalties that include imprisonment and/or execution.[1]


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Iran

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    Man, the religious thread poison has spread to [chat] too?

    Dang.

    I'm so useless on this subject.

    I poke my head in, go "Hey guys! I'm a religious person but also a moderate and not a pushy douche at all about my religion! We aren't all bad!"

    People generally ignore me or go "That's nice" at best and continue knifing each other.

    I'm so boring.

    Yeah pony but you like saved a guy, so you've got that going for you.

    Ok so I got the execution for gays, but for transgenders they just force you to have the op. Which just seems weird as fuck.

  • RonaldoTheGypsyRonaldoTheGypsy Do you like dags? Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I don't give a shit what people believe, but I find it necessary to be a jerk about it, anyway. I mean, it is the internet, right?

    /picture of people making YMCA with Jesus, etc.

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  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck ill-ass lemony snicket Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Haphazard wrote: »
    Yeah, don't move here. :P

    they check your ECU in Germany? are you sure?

    it seems like they'd have to have a lot of equipment on hand because I think different ECUs require different types of cables to read them. as opposed to measuring your emissions, for example, where it doesn't matter what type of exhaust you have.

  • PodlyPodly good moleman to youRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    MrMister wrote: »
    It perplexes me how a person believing they're right, or that their position is the most coherent, or intellectually desirable, is considered a great arrogance and somewhat detestable trait.

    I mean, doesn't everyone think they're right, and that their position is most coherent, and most intellectually desirable? If you thought some other position had those virtues, then why wouldn't you believe that other position instead?

    It's like, instead of arguing with me about why I'm wrong, the mere fact that I think I'm right disqualifies me from reasonable discussion. That's nonsense.

    More that the people who think that are either (a) acting irrationally (by definition, might I add), and/or (b) believe in a certain American sense of humility.

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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    MrMister wrote: »
    It perplexes me how a person believing they're right, or that their position is the most coherent, or intellectually desirable, is considered a great arrogance and somewhat detestable trait.

    I mean, doesn't everyone think they're right, and that their position is most coherent, and most intellectually desirable? If you thought some other position had those virtues, then why wouldn't you believe that other position instead?

    It's like, instead of arguing with me about why I'm wrong, the mere fact that I think I'm right disqualifies me from reasonable discussion. That's nonsense.

    It's not so much thinking you're right that bothers me (everyone thinks they're right), it's the attitude that everyone else is wrong, not just on an intellectual level but on a moral level and in how they're living their lives. That's where the hypocrisy comes in, for me--when you start prescribing to others how to live their lives and trying to convert them to your (dis)belief while also complaining about how they do the same thing.

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  • Delicious Toad!Delicious Toad! __BANNED USERS
    edited May 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    Ok so I got the execution for gays, but for transgenders they just force you to have the op. Which just seems weird as fuck.
    Again, the operation doesn't actually correlate exactly or deal exactly with the notion of transgenderism in the specific case of Iran. It's a completely niche situation that doesn't draw on any real parallels to the larger sphere except "oh shit this is awful."

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  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I love that because I think religious people are wrong about religious matters, I'm "closed-minded."

    That's rich.

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  • CindersCinders You’re either ready to reap this freaky-assed harvest or you’re not. Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    Man, the religious thread poison has spread to [chat] too?

    Dang.

    I'm so useless on this subject.

    I poke my head in, go "Hey guys! I'm a religious person but also a moderate and not a pushy douche at all about my religion! We aren't all bad!"

    People generally ignore me or go "That's nice" at best and continue knifing each other.

    I'm so boring.

    God, I hate religious people. They are worse then children.

  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Man, the religious thread poison has spread to [chat] too?

    Dang.

    I'm so useless on this subject.

    I poke my head in, go "Hey guys! I'm a religious person but also a moderate and not a pushy douche at all about my religion! We aren't all bad!"

    People generally ignore me or go "That's nice" at best and continue knifing each other.

    I'm so boring.

    Yeah pony but you like saved a guy, so you've got that going for you.

    Ok so I got the execution for gays, but for transgenders they just force you to have the op. Which just seems weird as fuck.
    if you're gay you can avoid executions with a sex change

    although i can see why, given the two options, a gay man might prefer to die. Iranian law fundamentally misunderstands homosexuality as opposed to transsexuality.

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  • RonaldoTheGypsyRonaldoTheGypsy Do you like dags? Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Personally I find ones religious beliefs to be pretty personal and much like your favorite sexual position not really something I need to discuss. Like I said I done fucked up today, it won't happen again.

    Well when I think of Iran, I don't really think of "Great place to live an alternative life style." Much like Alabama or Texas.

  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    OremLK wrote: »
    MrMister wrote: »
    It perplexes me how a person believing they're right, or that their position is the most coherent, or intellectually desirable, is considered a great arrogance and somewhat detestable trait.

    I mean, doesn't everyone think they're right, and that their position is most coherent, and most intellectually desirable? If you thought some other position had those virtues, then why wouldn't you believe that other position instead?

    It's like, instead of arguing with me about why I'm wrong, the mere fact that I think I'm right disqualifies me from reasonable discussion. That's nonsense.

    It's not so much thinking you're right that bothers me (everyone thinks they're right), it's the attitude that everyone else is wrong, not just on an intellectual level but on a moral level and in how they're living their lives. That's where the hypocrisy comes in, for me--when you start prescribing to others how to live their lives and trying to convert them to your (dis)belief while also complaining about how they do the same thing.
    Thinking someone is wrong is not morally condemning them.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Cinders wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Man, the religious thread poison has spread to [chat] too?

    Dang.

    I'm so useless on this subject.

    I poke my head in, go "Hey guys! I'm a religious person but also a moderate and not a pushy douche at all about my religion! We aren't all bad!"

    People generally ignore me or go "That's nice" at best and continue knifing each other.

    I'm so boring.

    God, I hate religious people. They are worse then children.

    :(

  • PodlyPodly good moleman to youRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    we get it

    each group thinks the other is unfair

    both are unfair

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  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Cinders wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Man, the religious thread poison has spread to [chat] too?

    Dang.

    I'm so useless on this subject.

    I poke my head in, go "Hey guys! I'm a religious person but also a moderate and not a pushy douche at all about my religion! We aren't all bad!"

    People generally ignore me or go "That's nice" at best and continue knifing each other.

    I'm so boring.

    God, I hate religious people. They are worse then children.
    :lol:

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  • HaphazardHaphazard Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Haphazard wrote: »
    Yeah, don't move here. :P

    they check your ECU in Germany? are you sure?

    it seems like they'd have to have a lot of equipment on hand because I think different ECUs require different types of cables to read them. as opposed to measuring your emissions, for example, where it doesn't matter what type of exhaust you have.

    All changes have to be certified by an approved garage or directly by the Technical Inspection Agency.
    They will have the cables, trust me.

  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    MikeMan wrote: »
    OremLK wrote: »
    MrMister wrote: »
    It perplexes me how a person believing they're right, or that their position is the most coherent, or intellectually desirable, is considered a great arrogance and somewhat detestable trait.

    I mean, doesn't everyone think they're right, and that their position is most coherent, and most intellectually desirable? If you thought some other position had those virtues, then why wouldn't you believe that other position instead?

    It's like, instead of arguing with me about why I'm wrong, the mere fact that I think I'm right disqualifies me from reasonable discussion. That's nonsense.

    It's not so much thinking you're right that bothers me (everyone thinks they're right), it's the attitude that everyone else is wrong, not just on an intellectual level but on a moral level and in how they're living their lives. That's where the hypocrisy comes in, for me--when you start prescribing to others how to live their lives and trying to convert them to your (dis)belief while also complaining about how they do the same thing.
    Thinking someone is wrong is not morally condemning them.

    Note: "not just on an intellectual level but on a moral level and in how they're living their lives".

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    Personally I find ones religious beliefs to be pretty personal and much like your favorite sexual position not really something I need to discuss. Like I said I done fucked up today, it won't happen again.

    Well when I think of Iran, I don't really think of "Great place to live an alternative life style." Much like Alabama or Texas.

    I hold this view as well!

    While I will often mention that I am religious, I pretty much never get into the particulars of my faith and generally avoid even calling it directly by name.

    It's the sort of thing that is basically unimportant to nearly any conversation ever and has no positive value.

    Plus it's the sort of thing I take really seriously and I am rather guarded about.

  • TavTav Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Cinders wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Man, the religious thread poison has spread to [chat] too?

    Dang.

    I'm so useless on this subject.

    I poke my head in, go "Hey guys! I'm a religious person but also a moderate and not a pushy douche at all about my religion! We aren't all bad!"

    People generally ignore me or go "That's nice" at best and continue knifing each other.

    I'm so boring.

    God, I hate religious people. They are worse then children.
    i guess we need to combine the threads then eh

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